is Gaza incredibly lopsided towards hamas?

[sabwarfare]

Gaza is the new korengal as it is incredibly lopsided towards hamas. IDF gets 1 sh*tty humvee, multiple sh*tty APCs, a huge open desert to get mowed down on as we run to the city, nowhere to make an fob, tanks spawn in 15 minutes which is retarded then when they are spawned there are too many bombcars to make them very useful. the map is not much fun at all as idf, its an exercise in futility.

Edit: User was warned for "attitude problem". Constructive criticism is valued feedback, rants are not.

[MadTommy]

There's no need to be rude when giving feedback.

I enjoy this map as IDF, but then again i always enjoyed Korengal as US too. The challenge is good.

It is certainly not an "exercise in futility". (but i've never played to win.. maybe that's why I enjoy it.)

[manligheten]

If really feels like that they made that map and thought that there still would be RPs around. Although it's a really cool and beautiful map it doesn't play well I would say. Yesterday I got 54:4 K/D shooting IDF when they tried to cross the desert. You can shot guys who try to jump into the tanks. The m113 is really worthless but the MBT is really good. Hamas really got the upper hand.

[CodeRedFox]

gaza is the new korengal?

What do you mean totally RAD, COOL, and the best MAP EVEEERRRRr?


LOL I see what hes trying to say, just realize it takes a few times to get a map working right. Each time the PR rules change map sometimes need to be rethought out. Or sometimes the mapper has the opinions like me and says "Its suppose to be hard"

[manligheten]

Or sometimes the mapper has the opinions like me and says "Its suppose to be hard"

But if it's hard for one side it easy for the other?


A good improvement I think would be to remove the wall that goes around the city. In that way the tanks would be more useful and it would be easier for the assaulting IDF to enter.

[Bellator]

If the Merkavas work together with APCs, they can get troops into the city easily. Instead people start running across the desert, becoming easy targets for SVDs and Lee-einfields.

[CodeRedFox]

But if it's hard for one side it easy for the other?

Absolutely, its called asymmetrical warfare. And personally the best part of PR.

[manligheten]

Absolutely, its called asymmetrical warfare. And personally the best part of PR.

Yes I like that too. The opposite would be Team Fortress on a mirrored symmetrical map. (2fort etc) But it doesn't require the map to be unbalanced. Ideally the better team should win not the one that happen to have the advantage (like the chinese had tanks on former Qwai and USA didn't. Just unfair).

[Sgt.BountyOrig]

I'd say its a bit of a bigger Karbala,
Mixed combat environments in such a relatively small area of the map.
You can be from city to desert in a matter of seconds.
Caches are also hard to find because of the amount of space you have to sift through to get to it.

[Nebsif]

U can use tanks to transport ppl across the desert, hope IDF will get Namer APC's in the next patch (has more or atleast same armor as the merkava tank) as those M113's are worthless. I played gaza only in the 1st week of release, and IDF always won with tons of tickets w/o loosing tanks.
BTW, new korengal is so UBER COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111 (used to be my least fav map..)

[Rudd]

We tried a new tactic as IDF which worked well

the keyword is Merkava

we just defended for 20mins, setting up FBs around the beach area, then 20mins hit and we started using merkavas like battering rams

its hard partly because its small, so IDF transport means less

[sabwarfare]

these tactics you speak of that make the teams fair again are really only in a perfect world. if hamas has any sense and just drives 2 technicals to the piers they can stop anyone from getting there an setting up firebases, and the rest of the west wall can be blocked by infantry.

there will very rarely be an IDF team on a public server that waits at base until tanks spawn and all works together as a team. even then it will be very difficult as hamas has been given time to all get to the west wall and setup mines and IEDs and multiple RPGs


hamas teamwork needed to win: 30%
IDF teamwork needed to win: 90%

[hiberNative]

played gaza one time and sported like 20 fps. want to play it more since the small size city maps are something i like (asad khal etc).
sounds cool if hamas has the upper hand tbh.

[charliegrs]

Theres a thread like this for every insurgency map. The usual "this map sucks because the insurgents/coalition is overpowered etc" threads are getting kind of old. I still say that the only real advantage any side has in any map is how competent their team is.

[CodeRedFox]

Thread title fixed to something more nonflamable

[Meester]

I personally feel that Gaza is too small for two tanks and just in general for playing as the insurgency gamemode. My opinion might change but it feels too deathmatchy at times.

[badmojo420]

I think the large area of desert should be more like a bombed out part of the city. With rubble and stuff to use as cover.

Something like this...
http://nimg.sulekha.com/Others/original ... -33-18.jpg

[00SoldierofFortune00]

If really feels like that they made that map and thought that there still would be RPs around. Although it's a really cool and beautiful map it doesn't play well I would say. Yesterday I got 54:4 K/D shooting IDF when they tried to cross the desert. You can shot guys who try to jump into the tanks. The m113 is really worthless but the MBT is really good. Hamas really got the upper hand.

This map would be perfect with RPs still around, but without RPs and just FOBs and 1 truck to build them, IDF can't keep a foothold in the city long enough to do anything. IDF pretty much have to clear the entire city from left to right and hope they have someone who builds FOBs behind them or that no caches spawn behind them, which happens more often than not. Really easy for HAMAS to flank, so this isn't even that great of a strategy either.

[BrownBadger]

I've had games where both IDF and Hamas win, but Hamas has the upper hand, sure. IDF really does become invincible when they move out together with the tanks and have a strong defense-line with backup firebases close.

[pfhatoa]

The main problem is the size of the map, sadly. With 32 HAMAS standing in a 500x500m city it's close to impossible to get a foot in as IDF.