[Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

[Koroush47]

I kinda have one started...
Iranian Design Plan

Adding more whenever I feel like it.

Interesting, mind If I add to it?

[ComradeChaos]

Interesting, mind If I add to it?

How do I?

[Koroush47]

It is my great pleasure to announce we have a new team member: Tim270. Welcome aboard .


I also updated the main post with a design plan of the player kits with reference to Comrade Chaos. Thanks man. I will add vehicles and extras in due time.

[Mongolian_dude]

Send me a new Mic and ill mix you up some voice-overs.

...mongol...

[Panzerfire]

Heyhey! This is nice! Finally one of the faction proposals lifts off. I wish you guys the best of luck. Looking forward to your progress!

[Koroush47]

Heyhey! This is nice! Finally one of the faction proposals lifts off. I wish you guys the best of luck. Looking forward to your progress!

Thanks alot, see if you can refer some people over who have modding talent. I'd like to get this off the ground asap!

Send me a new Mic and ill mix you up some voice-overs.

...mongol...

To Mongolia? Shipping would cost like 200 bucks!

[Snazz]

Iranian Design Plan

Next thing you should do is organize the assets by priority and availability.

If the faction is to replace MEC you may as well keep most of the existing assets which Iran uses, at least as place holders until you complete the high priority stuff.

- Assault rifles: The S.556 looks virtually identical to the M16A2, which wouldn't distinguish the faction much from the US Marines infantry-wise. The G3 would be fine until the KH 2002 is done.

- Specialist weapons: Most are already available in PR, It's also worth doing a thorough search just in case others are possibly being worked on by other teams.

The heavy AT M47 Dragon/Saeghe 2 and sniper rifle Steyr HS .50 likely will need to be made from scratch at some point, but current MEC placeholders should suffice.

- Attack Helicopter: You should be able to acquire and reskin USI's Cobra for the Panha 2091.


- Light & Heavy Lift Helicopters: The Panha Shabaviz 2061 you list is actually a reverse engineered Bell 206 JetRanger, the Hueys Iran apparently operate are Bell 214 Twin Hueys they purchased before the 1979 revolution.
Bell 214 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Panha Shabaviz 2061 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regardless, both the Twin Huey and the Chinook can be easily re-skinned from existing PR assets.

- MBT and Light APC: Both the T-72 and BTR-60 can be kept from MEC as they are in Iranian service.

- Heavy APC: Iran apparently operates around 400 BMP-2's which you could reskin from USI:

BMP-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The BMP-3 on the other hand apparently isn't operated by the Iranians.

- Jeeps: I can't gather any info about Iran possibly using MEC's current BRDMs or UAZs, so the Rakhsh and/or Takavar probably will need to be made.

- Logi Truck: Most PR factions don't even have their own specific truck so even if Iran uses a different type of truck IRL than it's probably not a priority to replace.

Overall I think presentation aspects like player skins and Persian voices are more important than replacing a few MEC assets. Those tasks should also be in the design plan as they are what is going to really identify the faction as Iranian.

[ComradeChaos]

Alot of awesomely researched stuff.

This is great. Thanks for the info.

[Koroush47]

Next thing you should do is organize the assets by priority and availability.

If the faction is to replace MEC you may as well keep most of the existing assets which Iran uses, at least as place holders until you complete the high priority stuff.

- Assault rifles: The S.556 looks virtually identical to the M16A2, which wouldn't distinguish the faction much from the US Marines infantry-wise. The G3 would be fine until the KH 2002 is done.

- Specialist weapons: Most are already available in PR, It's also worth doing a thorough search just in case others are possibly being worked on by other teams.

The heavy AT M47 Dragon/Saeghe 2 and sniper rifle Steyr HS .50 likely will need to be made from scratch at some point, but current MEC placeholders should suffice.

- Attack Helicopter: You should be able to acquire and reskin USI's Cobra for the Panha 2091.


- Light & Heavy Lift Helicopters: The Panha Shabaviz 2061 you list is actually a reverse engineered Bell 206 JetRanger, the Hueys Iran apparently operate are Bell 214 Twin Hueys they purchased before the 1979 revolution.
Bell 214 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Panha Shabaviz 2061 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regardless, both the Twin Huey and the Chinook can be easily re-skinned from existing PR assets.

- MBT and Light APC: Both the T-72 and BTR-60 can be kept from MEC as they are in Iranian service.

- Heavy APC: Iran apparently operates around 400 BMP-2's which you could reskin from USI:

BMP-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The BMP-3 on the other hand apparently isn't operated by the Iranians.

- Jeeps: I can't gather any info about Iran possibly using MEC's current BRDMs or UAZs, so the Rakhsh and/or Takavar probably will need to be made.

- Logi Truck: Most PR factions don't even have their own specific truck so even if Iran uses a different type of truck IRL than it's probably not a priority to replace.

Overall I think presentation aspects like player skins and Persian voices are more important than replacing a few MEC assets. Those tasks should also be in the design plan as they are what is going to really identify the faction as Iranian.

That is very helpful and I do agree with you on many of the vehicles suggestions you have made. Thank you.

I will add the Weapons and the vehicles sometime today, stay posted.

[ComradeChaos]

Could we possibly reskin the T-72 with ERA and call it a Safir 74?

We'll need our "inside Iranian" for a few things like camo because I really want to see their uniform other than woodland.

[Snazz]

Despite Wikipedia's inherit level of reliability, these 2 pages should at least be a guide of what assets can be kept from MEC and those that need be acquired otherwise:

- Army: Equipment of the Iranian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- Air Force: List of aircraft of the Iranian Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For starters it appears Hueys and Chinooks are far more common in Iranian service than Mi-17s.

Could we possibly reskin the T-72 with ERA and call it a Safir 74?

Can't think of any reason why not, even without the ERA added it'd be sufficient for a first release IMO.

We'll need our "inside Iranian" for a few things like camo because I really want to see their uniform other than woodland.

Nice source from the previous thread (https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f388-community-modding/53540-faction-proposal-islamic-republic-iran-army.html):

The many camouflages of Iran

[Sniperdog]

Why do the field dressings need a re-skin? Different flag or something?

[ComradeChaos]

Why do the field dressings need a re-skin? Different flag or something?

Need it in Farsi probably.

[Snazz]

For the map I'm drawing up, we'll need this marine camo(the men in the left): http://www.mehrnews.com/mehr_media/imag ... 9_orig.jpg

Sub-factions should be a low-priority IMO.

Regarding maps, PR has 3 MEC maps now:
- Kashan Desert (name of an Iranian desert)
- Jabal Al Burj (name of a place in Jordan)
- Muttrah City (located in Oman, other side of the gulf)

If this Iranian faction is to replace MEC then there's enough enough maps to not have to focus on creating more. Instead of focusing on the aspects which would make MEC Iranian.

There is a clear benefit in MEC being generic because it could fight in any location in the middle east. However PR is not restricted to a particular war scenario and we have Russia invading Beirut, so it's not too far fetched for Iran to fight across the region.

[ComradeChaos]

Sub-factions should be a low-priority IMO.

Regarding maps, PR has 3 MEC maps now:
- Kashan Desert (name of an Iranian desert)
- Jabal Al Burj (name of a place in Jordan)
- Muttrah City (located in Oman, other side of the gulf)

If this Iranian faction is to replace MEC then there's enough enough maps to not have to focus on creating more. Instead of focusing on the aspects which would make MEC Iranian.

There is a clear benefit in MEC being generic because it could fight in any location in the middle east. However PR is not restricted to a particular war scenario and we have Russia invading Beirut, so it's not too far fetched for Iran to fight across the region.

Wasn't quite thinking of a subfaction, but now that you mention it, it sounds like one. BTW, we aren't replacing the MEC.

[ComradeChaos]

Despite Wikipedia's inherit level of reliability, these 2 pages should at least be a guide of what assets can be kept from MEC and those that need be acquired otherwise:

- Army: Equipment of the Iranian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- Air Force: List of aircraft of the Iranian Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For starters it appears Hueys and Chinooks are far more common in Iranian service than Mi-17s.


Can't think of any reason why not, even without the ERA added it'd be sufficient for a first release IMO.





Nice source from the previous thread (https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f388-community-modding/53540-faction-proposal-islamic-republic-iran-army.html):

The many camouflages of Iran

This "Chocolate Chip" Camo is what I prefer then. Gotta see what Koroush says.

[Koroush47]

Why do the field dressings need a re-skin? Different flag or something?

Yes, the MEC ones are Arabic I believe, the Iranian ones would have to be farsi.

[Koroush47]

This "Chocolate Chip" Camo is what I prefer then. Gotta see what Koroush says.

I've read on alot of Iran Military forums that the Iranian army uses a pattern similar to OLD US army desert BDU. Now the US uses the digi camo, and Iran stuck with the old desert pattern.

I agree it does look good.


PS: We need A/some mappers for our basic team to be complete so we can start our sub section, common guys PM me your apps. This does not mean that we are not needing modelers and texture artists as well.

I have found people to do Iranian voices. But if you are still interested please apply.

[Snazz]

BTW, we aren't replacing the MEC.

Why not?

There's no point in keeping MEC if we have an Iranian faction that uses a significant amount of MEC equipment anyway.

The only thing that makes MEC worth keeping is it's generic nature, but there's nothing stopping Iran from partaking in battles across the Middle East in PR because there is no premise/story.

[ComradeChaos]

Why not?

There's no point in keeping MEC if we have an Iranian faction that uses a significant amount of MEC equipment anyway.

The only thing that makes MEC worth keeping is it's generic nature, but there's nothing stopping Iran from partaking in battles across the Middle East in PR because there is no premise/story.

It's quite a tall claim to replace a whole faction. I guess it is a "we'll see."