RP resupplied by APCs

[masterceo]

oh bloody hell, if you haven't got a proper argument to support your position on this idea then don't post (i'm looking at you killonsight).

rather then the APC give the SL a new RP for members to spawn in, why not have the APC go to the firebase and transport the reinforcements to the survivors of the squad? you know that T word ryhmes with eamwork.

what if there are no FOBs/the nearest one is 2km away? you know a pubbie won't drive that distance to transport 1 SM

[AnimalMother.]

what if there are no FOBs/the nearest one is 2km away?

if there's no FOBs then fail

if the nearest one is 2km dependant on the map generally it's a fail

you know a pubbie won't drive that distance to transport 1 SM

thats just bad player mentality tbh, if people understood how effective it would be to have a FOB-frontline shuttle service (which comes nicely with a 14.5/25/30mm cannon)

if you're down one SM then just tell them to wait, either fight through secure the casualty and revive or fall back and regroup.


all i see happening here is SL and rifleman sat next to an APC whilst 4 SM spam a flag because they've found a way to run-shoot-die-respawn-run-shoot-die-respawn-run... which to me just seems like a step back from what the DEVs implemented by restricting the RPs.

[masterceo]

yeah you're probably right. Players are harcoded after all.

[killonsight95]

oh bloody hell, if you haven't got a proper argument to support your position on this idea then don't post (i'm looking at you killonsight).

so wait your suggesting that apc's magicly spawn people out the drivers ***?

[masterceo]

that is exactly the opposite of what i'm suggesting. Right now i suggest you read carefully my 1st post.

[killonsight95]

actualy yes you are:

The APC could possibly rearm RPs in 3m radius

by this your saying if an apc is near by we can attack as logn as we want as long as our SL and one guy stay alive
therefore the apc becomes a mobile spawn point by re-arming the ability to place rallies
imgine the situation:
4 guys charge in lets say;
medic 2 rifle man and a spec rifle
AR and SL stay behind by the apc providing fire support with the apc
if the four guys die SL puts up a rally they re-spawn and rush again
rinse and repeat

its the same as it was before but this time its going to be a mobile fortress with pixies(or soldiers) comming out of it each time it stops but instead of it being like 6 comming out its going to be something like 18....(3 SL plus one man per squad)

[masterceo]

yeah, like the SL is going to stay ALL round next to the apc, 100m from enemy positions, without seeing any combat and not being able to properly lead a squad.

[drs79]

Supply crates re arm a RP, or in certain circumstances when you click "give up" your RP is automatically reloaded, why would you want a APC to allow that option as well?

[badmojo420]

Masterceo: Are you sure a rally is pre-loaded with an officer kit? Have you tested this exploit?

I assumed it was a SL (position) dependent thing and wouldn't supply one to someone who wasn't SL when they passed the FOB or Repair depot. Since (while being SL) it tells you it reloaded the rally even if you don't have the officer kit.

[Teek]

What about making Rally reload from the take 10 minutes? The Rally only lasts for one minute, so I hardly see how anyone can spam that. 10 minutes in or next to a APC may seem like a tremendously long time, but no its not so long when your being transported by said APC on a large map, and the point isnt to give you a Rally every time you stand near a APC, but to allow a SL to regroup a squad before the next assault on a new flag.

[killonsight95]

What about making Rally reload from the take 10 minutes? The Rally only lasts for one minute, so I hardly see how anyone can spam that. 10 minutes in or next to a APC may seem like a tremendously long time, but no its not so long when your being transported by said APC on a large map, and the point isnt to give you a Rally every time you stand near a APC, but to allow a SL to regroup a squad before the next assault on a new flag.

a good idea would stop the spam of rallys

yeah, like the SL is going to stay ALL round next to the apc, 100m from enemy positions, without seeing any combat and not being able to properly lead a squad.

i've shot people 100m away from me before and often if an SL is behind he can see what going on a lot easier and give better commands because hes not trying to stay alive.So yes it hink he would and if he has the AR with him he could provide decent fire support.

[masterceo]

Masterceo: Are you sure a rally is pre-loaded with an officer kit? Have you tested this exploit?

I assumed it was a SL (position) dependent thing and wouldn't supply one to someone who wasn't SL when they passed the FOB or Repair depot. Since (while being SL) it tells you it reloaded the rally even if you don't have the officer kit.

nope, haven't tested it, but 50% of my PR0.9 rounds i was squad leading and i've only been out of rallies when i have already used them

[killonsight95]

nope, haven't tested it, but 50% of my PR0.9 rounds i was squad leading and i've only been out of rallies when i have already used them

it re-arms when your a SL near a Forward Outpost, Command Post or Supply Depot that is freindly but you can only place it when you have an officer kit
"Changed Rally Points, they now get "rearmed" by the Squad Leader getting close (within 20 meters) to a Forward Outpost, Command Post or Supply Depot"

source:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-p ... tures.html

[masterceo]

fail argument is fail
no mention of SL spawning without rally already rearmed but...

Changed Rally Points, they are now limited to only one placement before needing to be "rearmed"

which might indicate that officer kit comes already with rally point rearmed.

[killonsight95]

fail argument is fail
no mention of SL spawning without rally already rearmed but...



which might indicate that officer kit comes already with rally point rearmed.

you havn't played this long enough have you...?
spawn as an SL and it will pop up with a message after about 5 sec
"your rally point has been re-armed"
and i know because it always annoys me because as i'm tlkaing it make an annoying beep sound!!!!

[Potilas]

Im a fan of simple solutions for example most times APC would not understand why the soldiers runs behind so feature would cause tiresome situlations. Far more simpler way is that you spawn right to the APC where your SL is sitting. However I see a small risk for the APC becoming a camp tool (abuse) where inf just stay close because of constant spawn location. Im not sure will the suggestion improve the gameplay afterall. Sounds cool, but Im afraid overuse of suggested spawn method.

[masterceo]

i've been playing PR long before you even got your first unlock in BF2, and at least 20 hours as SL in 0.9, there are some members on this forum that actually remember me cause they were in my squad, so don't give me that bs that i haven't played enough.
I made a quick server in SP just for you to check it out, and i was right, Officer kit comes already with a rally pre-loaded.

I probably won't respond to your next post, maybe it's because you annoy me, or maybe because you fail to support any of your claims with proper argumentation

[drs79]

i've been playing PR long before you even got your first unlock in BF2, and at least 20 hours as SL in 0.9.

I probably won't respond to your next post, maybe it's because you annoy me, or maybe because you fail to support any of your claims with proper argumentation

Yes masta, is there anything you need masta? I will dig this foxhole as quick as I can masta.

[masterceo]

how about constructive criticism instead of being a *********?

btw:your pm is awesome, made my day

[snooggums]

Squad leaders spawn with one rally, just like they spawn with all their ammo and grenades. This is not an exploit, it is intended.

I don't like the idea of being able to reload off an APC, as if the APC drives to you to reload your rally they might as well be bringing your troops to you. Rallies should be minimal use items for regrouping on occasion.