EOD teams, Thoughts?

[Spartan0189]

So, some people in another clan were doing some EOD work, and it was quite a dream to have on insurgency.

What were they doing exactly? They were running around on Karbala with 2 Humvees, and going around to common mine placing spots, and they were disarming them, with a high mortality rate.

So, what are your thoughts about having a squad dedicated for EOD work to help clear mines and IEDs in Insurgency?

I know this post is a bit vague, but you should get the idea,

PS: EOD = Explosive Ordinance Disposal

[gazzthompson]

i suppose its good in some situations but at the same time, like with most things in game, thats less people looking for caches. But then i do suppose you could be saving tickets as well...

Also, clear IED's? hows that done? by driving over them?

If we were not limited by 32 players a team, id LOVE to see fully fledged EOD teams. PR2 maybe....

[AgentMongoose]

It would be nice if the combat engine could explode ieds with the c4 pack.

[gazzthompson]

if you was close enough to put c4 on it, what stops the guy at the other end from blowing you up?

[hx.bjoffe]

Loosing combat engineer kits to insurgents are pretty much the worst thing there is.
Jihad motorbikes, i still got nightmares..

Hadn't been for this flaw in game mechanics, sure.

[AgentMongoose]

if you was close enough to put c4 on it, what stops the guy at the other end from blowing you up?

Nothing other then waiting for a bigger kill.

[gazzthompson]

But if some one is going to destroy your ied, waiting would be pointless?

[Sidewinder Zulu]

In b4 Hurt Locker references.

But yeah, sounds like an interesting idea. With only 32 people per team it could get difficult, but I don't see why it's impossible.

[dtacs]

EOD teams cause more deaths with them working than without them, effectively making them useless.

As a sapper will constantly be looking at his IED field, waiting for someone to walk on it, it only makes sense to blow it up when there is an engineer trying to get rid of it.

Mines however, absolutely. But where theres mines, IEDs usually follow.

[Nehil]

Would be kind of sweet to get an EOD team in PR2 when we have like 128 players (I wish) on a map. Just give the SQL a request button that say "We need explosive ordinance removal here!" and like 2-3 guys show up to disarm the mine or whatever.

[dtacs]

Would be kind of sweet to get an EOD team in PR2 when we have like 128 players (I wish) on a map. Just give the SQL a request button that say "We need explosive ordinance removal here!" and like 2-3 guys show up to disarm the mine or whatever.

Or you could just go around like you do now.

PR2 won't be able to portray insurgent situations properly without huge amounts of civilian influence, something that ARMA 2 and VBS2 have done, which are still quite small.

[Tartantyco]

I think they just watched a bit too much Hurt Locker .

I'm just gonna point to this thread that I made about the engineer kit, that involves EOD as well, in order to make engineers relevant again.

[Nehil]

Or you could just go around like you do now.

I imagine that there will be situations where EOD is the only option, just like IRL

[dtacs]

I imagine that there will be situations where EOD is the only option, just like IRL

Mark the area on the map, completely avoid.

Send infantry in for IED bait.

I know, not realistic, not humane and so forth. But switch on, PR is far from being 100% realistic and PR2 will be the same deal. Players will (do) follow the path of least resistance for gameplay within certain bounds, which is a law that applies for all multiplayer games.

[Rudd]

I'd love it if Grenade traps were destructable and the SLAM or a new model was brought back as a timed explosive to destroy most things, IEDs, Mines, Ammo crates, Abandoned vehicles, doors - like a supercharged incendiary grenade. Rifle specialist or even the officer would be a good choice of kit for it.

The only way to secure an IED ingame is to kill the placer and make sure no1 gets the detonator, so even with an EOD team INS still get their advantage in regards to IEDs, but the implacability of grenade traps and mines gets on my nerves a bit

[Jigsaw]

I think EOD teams are best deployed with the main coalition force, for example just going to random common locations for mines may be completely useless if no other BLUFOR ever go through the area. In this way it is just a waste of tickets and manpower.

I would rather see EOD teams attached to mechanised infantry squads or supporting heavy armour, where they can actively clear the way for these units. Indeed my favoured loadout for an armour squad on Insurgency is to have a two man tank crew with a combat engineer and medic manning a supporting Humvee. In this way I feel that they can be a valuable asset to a coalition team.

[Aquiller]

Another suggestion after seeing movie? ;]

[stealth420]

EOD teams.

I saw a half *** EOD team on the hardcore server the other day.

They were waiting for mines to be reported in, and while they were waiting they were doing donuts in a humvee. They had One combat engineer in there squad and another squad offered them the second combat engineer kit and they denied it.

These EOD teams could work if The whole team were moving as one unit instead of all squads being all over the map all the time.

I could easily see the EOD team leading the convoy and clearing mines in the convoys path.

[Spartan0189]

Ah yeah, I remember that, IT was only 4 people, so it was pretty much 28 Blufor vs 32 Insurgent.

I guess you can consider it a movie reference, but I got it from the EOD team on hardcore a few nights ago.

[Quikli]

I too really really want an EOD team in the game. I actually get the Combat Engineer kit and create an "EOD" squad occasionally. With the help of a medic to revive you if things go wrong and a small group of security, you can drive a logi truck or a humvee and scan the ground for IEDS.

Then once I see a mine, I disable it with a wrench. I've yet to disarm an IED, maybe because it's impossible? But isn't it possible to disable one with C4?

After watching The Hurt Locker (which is unrealistic but very good) I'm kinda' inspired to play EOD in game.

Heck, I might even sign up for the Air Force EOD and defuse bombs in Afghanistan.