Ok currently running a :
Gigabyte - GA-965P-DS3, along with an Intel core 2 Xtreme @ 2.93ghz - Overclocked to 3.2ghz.
This was running hot until I added a water cooled freezone cpu cooler unit.
I also now have an ASUS Commando Mobo, with an Intel core 2 duo "wolfdale" @ 3.3Ghz - stock - running normal temps on stock air cooling too (interesting to clock with water cooling !! )
I can not drop the wolfdale into the gigabyte board, it does not like it - constant BSOD.
So its one or the other ?
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Which one.
A nice Dilema - Hardware ??
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Robbi
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Re: A nice Dilema - Hardware ??
Have you defaulted the CMOS between using each chip?
iirc isn't the Core 2 extreme stock @ 3.2?
iirc isn't the Core 2 extreme stock @ 3.2?

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UK_Force
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Re: A nice Dilema - Hardware ??
I have yes, and no the extreme is 2.93 - stock mate. (x6800)[R-COM]Robbi wrote:Have you defaulted the CMOS between using each chip?
iirc isn't the Core 2 extreme stock @ 3.2?
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Robbi
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Re: A nice Dilema - Hardware ??
Ah yeah, so it is. so what are you asking? Which one of the two combos is better.[R-DEV]UK_Force wrote:I have yes, and no the extreme is 2.93 - stock mate. (x6800)
I'd say of the two the Wolfdale will server its purpose better, larger cache and new 45nm Architecture.
Intel Core 2 Duo 45nm Wolfdale vs. 65nm Conroe - TechSpot
Have a little read.
Plus, both boards are solid P35 chipsets, so all should be well there.

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SnipingCoward
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Re: A nice Dilema - Hardware ??
I have no personal experience with either of them but I would say:
Since the Extreme has an already higher score on stock settings and you are already watercooling and overclocking it I would go with that.
Intel Core2 Extreme Q6800 @ 2.93GHz
Points: 3619
Rank: 129
Intel Core2 Duo E8600 @ 3.33GHz
Points: 2606
Rank: 205
(Used the CPU search feature from: PassMark Software - CPU Benchmark Charts)
Since the Extreme has an already higher score on stock settings and you are already watercooling and overclocking it I would go with that.
Intel Core2 Extreme Q6800 @ 2.93GHz
Points: 3619
Rank: 129
Intel Core2 Duo E8600 @ 3.33GHz
Points: 2606
Rank: 205
(Used the CPU search feature from: PassMark Software - CPU Benchmark Charts)
Got a PROBLEM? Check this: PR:BF2 Installation Guide
Got a common QUESTION? check here first: PR:BF2 FAQ, MUMBLE FAQ
"Hello, IT! ... Yes, have you tried turning it on and off again?"
Got a common QUESTION? check here first: PR:BF2 FAQ, MUMBLE FAQ
"Hello, IT! ... Yes, have you tried turning it on and off again?"
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SocketMan
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Re: A nice Dilema - Hardware ??
There are 3 revisions of that Gigabyte motherboard,but regardless of that it's most likely
the older BIOS that needs updating:
V1.1
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Moth ... uctID=2314
V2
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Moth ... uctID=2424
V3.3
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Moth ... uctID=2456
the older BIOS that needs updating:
V1.1
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Moth ... uctID=2314
V2
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Moth ... uctID=2424
V3.3
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Moth ... uctID=2456
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Robbi
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Re: A nice Dilema - Hardware ??
The Extreme one he has is an x6800 Sniping, so its the Conroe Dual core, not the quad.
Intel Core 2 Duo X6800 Dual Core Processor - BX80557X6800 - Compare Prices and Buy at PriceGrabber
The newer wolfdale is the one to go for on stats alone, as it shows in my original link.
I did the same thing myself with the quad
Intel Core 2 Duo X6800 Dual Core Processor - BX80557X6800 - Compare Prices and Buy at PriceGrabber
The newer wolfdale is the one to go for on stats alone, as it shows in my original link.
I did the same thing myself with the quad

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UK_Force
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Re: A nice Dilema - Hardware ??
Motherboards - I have updated both of the BIOS.
I take it there is not much in the Motherboards then really?
Wolfdale is the one I think for the CPU, as I thought.
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I take it there is not much in the Motherboards then really?
Wolfdale is the one I think for the CPU, as I thought.
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VoXiNaTiOn
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Re: A nice Dilema - Hardware ??
According to the CPU support list here:
GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 3.3) - GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - CPU Support List
The board should support the CPU (Which I assume is an E8600 based on that clock speed?) at the F14 BIOS, although it is put down as "Not Official Support" which could mean its hit and miss I'm afraid. This only applies if your board is the v3.3 revision. If you have either the v1 or v2 board, support doesn't exist I'm afraid, hence the BSOD. From the looks of it it doesn't like the 1333Mhz FSB on most CPUs (So every 45nm one is a no go (other than the C0 stepping E8xxx series and QX9650 strangely enough) and the QX6850).
GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 3.3) - GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - CPU Support List
The board should support the CPU (Which I assume is an E8600 based on that clock speed?) at the F14 BIOS, although it is put down as "Not Official Support" which could mean its hit and miss I'm afraid. This only applies if your board is the v3.3 revision. If you have either the v1 or v2 board, support doesn't exist I'm afraid, hence the BSOD. From the looks of it it doesn't like the 1333Mhz FSB on most CPUs (So every 45nm one is a no go (other than the C0 stepping E8xxx series and QX9650 strangely enough) and the QX6850).

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UK_Force
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Re: A nice Dilema - Hardware ??
VoXiNaTiOn wrote:According to the CPU support list here:
GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 3.3) - GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - CPU Support List
The board should support the CPU (Which I assume is an E8600 based on that clock speed?) at the F14 BIOS, although it is put down as "Not Official Support" which could mean its hit and miss I'm afraid. This only applies if your board is the v3.3 revision. If you have either the v1 or v2 board, support doesn't exist I'm afraid, hence the BSOD. From the looks of it it doesn't like the 1333Mhz FSB on most CPUs (So every 45nm one is a no go (other than the C0 stepping E8xxx series and QX9650 strangely enough) and the QX6850).
Excellent info thank you, I will have to check the rev no later - however I bought this board around 3 years ago I think ?
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UK_Force
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Re: A nice Dilema - Hardware ??
I think I have F13 BIOS, this may be the issue actually.
I have seen some people have this running on this board (it is a 3.3 I have) .
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I have seen some people have this running on this board (it is a 3.3 I have) .
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