About mg/ar/lmg deployed mode

[Potilas]

Zooming while deployed mode should be allowed only when player is on prone position. Exactly same way how FH2 mod does the German uber lmg:s handling. IRL nobody cannot make accurate burts and stand. In game, its sadly possible ops: PKM and mg3 kick like mule so atlest for those guns should not allowe standing/crouch deployed zoomed mode.

[wood_badger]

Zooming while deployed mode should be allowed only when player is on prone position. Exactly same way how FH2 mod does the German uber lmg:s handling. IRL nobody cannot make accurate burts and stand. In game, its sadly possible ops: PKM and mg3 kick like mule so atlest for those guns should not allowe standing/crouch deployed zoomed mode.

"Nobody" is an incredibility broad term ya know.

Could the deviation just be adjusted/altered, instead of of no scope in??

[gazzthompson]

Both ways are unrealistic.

Being able to just scope prone: Not being able to scope whistle standing means you cant fire out of windows, over terrain etc when in real life you could simply deploy the bi-pod.

PR system : Can "deploy" on windows etc, but as you said can fire standing with no support accurately.

So both are unrealistic and not perfect so its down to gameplay, and personally i prefer PRs current system.

[Smiddey723]

notice that it is called "Deployed mode" it simulates that you have rested the bipod on an object an ready to fire which in most cases is fine because not many people stand out in the open fireing an LMG as you are a simple target to spot and hit


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rnVCJoVFACo/Sk8v1Iz-2ZI/AAAAAAAAAU0/BXPJvM4jyn4/s400/mg42.JPG This is what the current system attempts to simulate but not always is there cover like that to rest on but i think it works quite well as it is

[Potilas]

^Really!? Based on my epxerience you dont have anything under bibod in most situlations.

^^Im not saying only scope for prone. We have 2 firing modes for mg:s. Deployed and undeployed mode. Im talking about deployed mode so forget all about undeployed mode.

^^^ Vids confirm what I tell in the first post. Look how gun pipe swing

[Ccharge]

While your suggestion is partially valid, I want to be able to fire out a window accuratly instead of not at all like in FH2.

Deployed mode can be abused by simply using it standing in the open, but there is no possible way for mountable areas to register in the BF2 engine.

While FH2 system may be more "realistic" PR's is more gamer and gameplay friendly. Making it so you dont have to be in the open to fire your MG.

[bad_nade]

"Nobody" is an incredibility broad term ya know.

"Accurate" isn't. Like OP said above "nobody cannot make accurate burts and stand". I didn't saw much sharp shooting in your videos.

[Rudd]

personally I'd prefer that standing was bad but crouch was fine, to show that the deployed position requires a stable position, and to further limit the deployed mode

[CodeRedFox]

While you make a perfect sense suggestion we decide that allowing a mode which would imitate resting a weapon on a ledge or widow sill was worth the time when one might just stand up and not rest it.

The plus side to this, besides allowing more defense, is a standing player is a easy target.

[wood_badger]

"Accurate" isn't. Like OP said above "nobody cannot make accurate burts and stand". I didn't saw much sharp shooting in your videos.

"Accurate", usually isn't word associated with mg/ar/lmgs either.

But I don't necessarily agree or disagree with your comment or OP, in RL anything is possible with enough training.

[Potilas]

While you make a perfect sense suggestion we decide that allowing a mode which would imitate resting a weapon on a ledge or widow sill was worth the time when one might just stand up and not rest it.

The plus side to this, besides allowing more defense, is a standing player is a easy target.

Why not make undeployed mode more accurate then? It must be too simple solution Recoil stays heavy as it is, but you are able fire single round with reasonable accuracy. Current undeployed mode suck camel rectum so it need bump anyway. Nobody stick out mg barrel out of window. Who the hell you think Im?! Im new here forums, but my first PR experience was during 0.2 time. I know how ppl uses deployed mode. They are allmost never at range where they could actually rest bipod or barrel on top of something. Being 1-5m away from window/rock is not same as resting weapon on it.

My inspiration to this thread become from FH2 mod where German lmg:s deployed mode is restricted to prone only. It works there so I dont see why it wont work here. Everything does not have to go around rules of best balance or gameplay. Different weapons behave different way. What comes to all handheld weapons, I prefer realism over gameplay.

[Ccharge]

FH2 is not PR. Therefore your connection between the 2 is invalid. Anybody who doesnt cover up right beside something will probably loose there life.

[Dev1200]

IMO, auto riflemen should have either more deviation per shot, or assault rifles have less deviation per shot. That way the auto rifleman doesn't feel so much as a power weapon, since it can spray accurately on a target.


Anyway, I don't think you can "deploy" onto a window, ledge, etc with the BF2 engine. However, 99% of the time you SHOULD be in cover, and usually you cover by behind behind something that you can put your bipod on.

[Rissien]

youd be pretty dumb to sight in standing in the middle of the open anyways. Would only do so when behind cover 'deployed' on a ledge/window.