WW2 Weapons in PRV?

[DeltaFart]

Yeh guys lets not go over board, find the most common of all the things and then maybe after that spread out for some diversity

[Hitman.2.5]

Please tell me there will be napalm!?

Face (na) plam XD how could it be vietnam without napalm

[TristanYockell]

Will we be seeing the Russian RPD or chinese copy Type 56 LMG making an appearance in PR:V? I really do hope so. Not only is it a kickass gun but was found in fairly large numbers during the vietnam war.

[Wilkinson]

M113 Trench Gun?

[usmcguy]

keep the m16 for the us

[JohnnyTheIED]

I don't know about the BARs, most probably some thompson smg was used at some point but probably not much since its a machine pistol.

Grease guns we're used since its was cheap to manifacture. Also dropped very quick for AK's from what I heard.

For the US side it was mostly m1 carbines(w/ full auto), m14's, m16's and the special force deviants (wasnt the car-15 yet, had some weird name) and m60's m2's.

It's true that the VC's used all sorts of weapon, alot of old french and russian ww2 weapons. But for the NVA's. The official army of the north, they had quite the full soviet package.

Ak47's, RPk's first generation (can't remember the name, the front grip is recognizable) RPG7 and Dshk's/kords. They did use alot of those DP-28 LMGs with the round mag on top. Probably because it was very reliable like the psshh-41 even if it was 20 years old design, probably got em as a gift from USSR too.

I don't think they had much of a need for bazookas and super bazookas or any non-soviet weaponry after the first years of the conflict. Since they had access to incredible quantities of soviet surplus and the Ho chi Minh trail, supplying the VC's with that modern equipment.

P.s: I don't think the Vietnamese ever used german kar98's. Most likely Russian Mosin-Nagants ww2 surplus like the DP28 and psshh41. They look similar since they are both bolt action rifles. The Mosin-Nagant was the Viet sniper I think.

I think however those ww2 weapons we're mostly used during the Indochina conflict with the French, by the time the US conflict was strongly in place, they already had full communist support. SAM sites, AA batteries, artillery, Tanks, Migs. Even soviet pilots for the first air battles.

Ho Chi Minh knew the tactical advantage of the Ak47 and greatly exploited it. He understood the soviet theory of the assault rifle. It wasn't about accuracy or fancy shooting but total domination by firepower and assault waves.

When I was in Vietnam back in 2005, I met with many veterans but the one that marked me most was a Colonel who was a supply officer during the war, mostly Anti-Air batteries he told me. We spoke for hours after dinner, he told me the greatest part of the job was to go hunt for downed pilots in the jungle, He said everybody was joyful and celebrating. Even the American pilots we're happy to finally be found, he said most of them we're just happy to get out of the jungle.

They are great people really, they don't hold grudges from the past. They just want a peaceful living of their own. I also met a 97 yrs old Indochina/vietnam veteran who spoke french. He was part of the crews that dragged artillery pieces all the way up to the mountain tops of the Dien Bien Phu valley. You should have heard the silence in the room when the man was speaking, He was always smiling too. Very nice place to visit. Amazing and respectful people.

[mo0nbuggy1]

The owen gun, favourably used by Aussies, Kiwis and even yanks in ww2 was still used in Korea and Vietnam aswell.

The cheap and simple design never failed and was even nicknamed the "Diggers Darlin' " by Aussie troops.
(A digger being some from the Australian Army)

Anyway, good weapon, used in ww2, used in Vietnam......

[JohnnyTheIED]

The owen gun, favourably used by Aussies, Kiwis and even yanks in ww2 was still used in Korea and Vietnam aswell.

The cheap and simple design never failed and was even nicknamed the "Diggers Darlin' " by Aussie troops.
(A digger being some from the Australian Army)

Anyway, good weapon, used in ww2, used in Vietnam......

Looks like a sten gun with the mag on top and a foregrip, that's it isnt it, looks pretty cool nonetheless. lol

[mo0nbuggy1]

3 different calibres were tested, they went with the 9mm, same as the Sten. Other than that they bare no resemblace in my eye.

[JohnnyTheIED]

3 different calibres were tested, they went with the 9mm, same as the Sten. Other than that they bare no resemblace in my eye.

Well the sten is basicly the exact same design but with the mag on the left side, also acting a foregrip.

I found the stock and trigger/housing assembly to look quite just like the sten. I looked it up, Evelyn Owen was 24-25 when he designed it... I'd take a wild guess and say that he inspired himself from the sten gun alot for his machine pistol design.

Even Mikael Kalashnikov inspired himself from the stg44, there's no shame m8, take it easy lol

Here:



Still don't see a resemblance? Stick a longer barrel, Throw the stick magazine on top, and you have a Owen gun... Actualy the more I look at that Owen gun, The more I think its actually a merge of a tommy gun and a sten gun.

Just look at the model I did only using a Thompson, the only foreign part is the stock, replace the main assembley with a sten assembly, and you have a perfect match for the Owen.

[mo0nbuggy1]

Oh well in that case, it looks just like a Thompson apart from the obvious physical and functional differences.

[JohnnyTheIED]

Oh well in that case, it looks just like a Thompson apart from the obvious physical and functional differences.

Well that doesn't make it bad, more like better in my book. If you took the 2 best SMGs back then, say the tommy and the sten, and took their best specs to make it into one gun, its a Win design for sure.

That's basicly what Kalash did for the AK47, the main difference from the STG44 was that with his own experience as a tanker, with dirty metals full of soot, dirt and burned powder, he realized the key to reliability was a slack housing to let the dirt move around instead of jamming it tight.

[Indistinct0]

M2 Carbine
M3 Carbine
M1919 Browning (Was it used in Vietnam?)
Thompson
M3 Grease gun
M1 Garand
Barrett Model 82A1

Those are my choices

[Rabbit]

Barrett Model 82A1

Sadly this was SLIGHTLY post war.

[mongol-horde]

vietcong 2 game had nice variety of guns for both sides.

[psyckomonkey]

A list of weapons used in the vietnam conflict:
Weapons of the Vietnam War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[James May]

US weapons
M-16A1, 5.56mm Assault Rifle
CAR-15, 5.56mm Assault Rifle
BROWNING .50 Cal Machine Gun
M-60, 7.62mm GPMG
BROWNING .30 Cal Machine Gun
M-72, 66mm Light Anti-tank Weapon (LAW)
M-20, 3.5 inch Rocket Launcher
M-203, 40mm Grenade Launcher
M-79, 40mm Grenade Launcher
M-67, 90mm Recoilless Rifle
M-1911A1, .45 Automatic Pistol
M-14, 7.62mm Rifle
M-1 Carbine
Cal .38 Special

NVA weapons
AK-47 7.62mm ASSAULT RIFLE
SIMONOV 7.62mm SELF-LOADING RIFLE (SKS)
RPD-7.62mm GPMG
MAT49 modified 7.62mm SMG
PPSh41 7.62mm SMG
Chicom Type-56, 7.62mm ASSAULT RIFLE
Type-24, 7.92mm HEAVY MACHINEGUN
RPG-7 ROCKET LAUNCHER
TOKAREV TT33 7.62mm AUTOMATIC PISTOL
MAKAROV PM 9.5mm AUTOMATIC PISTOL
81 mm Mortar
75 mm Recoilless Rifle

[Tim270]

The majority of those were designed/produced after WW2.

[RdClZn]

US weapons
M-16A1, 5.56mm Assault Rifle
CAR-15, 5.56mm Assault Rifle
BROWNING .50 Cal Machine Gun
M-60, 7.62mm GPMG
BROWNING .30 Cal Machine Gun
M-72, 66mm Light Anti-tank Weapon (LAW)
M-20, 3.5 inch Rocket Launcher
M-203, 40mm Grenade Launcher
M-79, 40mm Grenade Launcher
M-67, 90mm Recoilless Rifle
M-1911A1, .45 Automatic Pistol
M-14, 7.62mm Rifle
M-1 Carbine
Cal .38 Special

NVA weapons
AK-47 7.62mm ASSAULT RIFLE
SIMONOV 7.62mm SELF-LOADING RIFLE (SKS)
RPD-7.62mm GPMG
MAT49 modified 7.62mm SMG
PPSh41 7.62mm SMG
Chicom Type-56, 7.62mm ASSAULT RIFLE
Type-24, 7.92mm HEAVY MACHINEGUN
RPG-7 ROCKET LAUNCHER
TOKAREV TT33 7.62mm AUTOMATIC PISTOL
MAKAROV PM 9.5mm AUTOMATIC PISTOL
81 mm Mortar
75 mm Recoilless Rifle

The same + some NVA/VC weapons:

RP-46/DPM LMG
KPV HMG
RPG-2 Rocket Launcher
Mosin Nagant Bolt-Rifle
K-50 SMG

[mezlay2]

atleast a garand