Give the sniper the abilty to spot targets with the sniper rifle.

[Tte.oteo]

who need a tasco monocular having the gltd optronic???




ur are talking about to create a new role ? sppoted already exist

PD: u cant know the distances with the tasco its only a zoom without laser

[ralfidude]

A spotter for a sniper is ususally a rope kit, or medic kit.

Both are HIGLY useful for the sniper, and do a MUCH more effective job and role as a spotter and support for the sniper than a stupid SL kit.

Did i mention, that they come with binos with not so crazy zoom?

This sniper spotter business has been the debate in PR for over 2 years now. Let me give ya some advice. Next time ur spotting for the sniper, see if that medic kit or rope kit as an SL doesnt do you MUCH more good....



ALSO. SIDE HINT> If you are mentally challenged enough to take a SL kit to spot, when you actually find something with ur uber scope on the gltd, LAZE IT, and the two of you can exchange information that way if your not the SL and want to tell the other dude where to look. Works wonders.

[Rabbit]

Or we could get rid of the sniper all together and just have a scout class. Maybe make it so he is the only one who can call arty/air support.

[mangeface]

Or we could get rid of the sniper all together and just have a scout class. Maybe make it so he is the only one who can call arty/air support.

This sounds like the Forward Observer, which has been suggested many times before.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... er-fo.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... rface.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... -more.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... erver.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... r-kit.html

I found 5 links to threads with the name Forward Observer or Forward Air Controller just searching the title 'Forward Observer'. Sounds like a re-re-re-re-re-suggestion to me.

In reference to the OPs suggestion. Seriously? Just have a SL w/ an officer kit come with you. It's not that hard, and these kind of ideas just keep get suggested, and suggested, and suggested, and suggested. I'm thinking that the Devs ignore things like this, or else all of these ideas would be in-game.

[hotfranc]

I agree all you said, but in many maps it is better to have a spotter with the specialist kit for the hook since you can't enter the 1/6 of the buildings. So now you need a 3 man squad and this let only 29 players to have trans squad, inf squad, logi squad ... If it was a 200 vs 200 person server I'd say OK for a 3 player sniping team but it is 32 vs 32.

Don't want to start another thread but i have a question, up to how many meters you can hear the sniper rifle, IMO i think it sounds really too loud and is a disadvantage because IRL sniper have the stealth ability with the guilli suits, the firepower witch is now disabled with the possible to revive a guy who got shot by a sniper and when the Iraqis hear a sniper shot i don't think they are like:
-A sniper i want to have his weapon ­.
And don't tell me thats not what happens in PR.

Thanks

[Hitman.2.5]

It would seem the sniper kit is the bain of all PR's problems hundreds of arguments and debates if we were to take them away the problems would be sorted, But then the suggestion section would be full of Bring it back I miss 1337 snipez0ring XD

My suggestion, just give the ablility to place a marker back

Well the GLTD is practically useless for spotting now that it only has the fixed high level zoom.

why was that implemented? When we had the SOFLAM(.6ish IIRC) it worked perfectly two zoom setting and a infallible range finder. what more could a sniper ask for?

[Cassius]

Seen as giving the sniper the ability to spot has been shot down I think this can be locked seen as it has gone off topic.

[Rabbit]

This sounds like the Forward Observer, which has been suggested many times before.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... er-fo.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... rface.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... -more.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... erver.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... r-kit.html

I found 5 links to threads with the name Forward Observer or Forward Air Controller just searching the title 'Forward Observer'. Sounds like a re-re-re-re-re-suggestion to me.

In reference to the OPs suggestion. Seriously? Just have a SL w/ an officer kit come with you. It's not that hard, and these kind of ideas just keep get suggested, and suggested, and suggested, and suggested. I'm thinking that the Devs ignore things like this, or else all of these ideas would be in-game.

I know it's a "re-re-re-re-re-suggestion" lol. But I think bringing i think its a much better idea than a sniper class.

[Herbiie]

Lol? How come I can't think of any that are used in regular service. IE no SpecOps/SPETSNAZ. IIRC the Spatsnaz use a silenced assault rifle modified as a sniper rifle.

Really? Really?
lol

L115A3 and the L118 - the British Weapons are, and all of my information is based off the British. (Granted the one on the L118 is ****)

Even the C3A something has an attachable silencer that should be used in conflicts, whether the Canadian snipers do or not is up to them.

[Snakey 1-1]

They are available for use Herbiie, but they are way to bulky and cumbersome to be carrying around. Weight is important, do you think silencers are made of plastic?

In all my time in the military and job as a sniper, I ve NEVER seen anyone use a silencer...

Sure this might be an age old debate. SNIPERS do NOT have to work with the spotter, and vice verse, both are trained in each others jobs...in American sniping doctrine, you swap every 45 minutes with your spotter, it avoids carpel tunnel syndrome and allows your situational awareness to stay in peak conditions.

Lastly, getting rid of the sniper is not only retarded in my view, but you fail to see how effective they can be. Working with three people in Beirut last night, not only did we effectively halt an advance out of the factory by precision fire, but we eliminated both pilots and made the choppers sit on the ground there. Any time someone came near them we eliminated them. It brought their air mobility to a halt and brought a pretty quick close to the battle.

I could name a million other scenarios about how a well placed sniper can turn the tide of a battle, and sometimes it just takes one man. Ill leave it to your imagination, and despite the shortcomings of the ballistic models engine in PR and BF2, its still a very effective weapon and with time and practice you can perform some really well placed beautiful shots, like 7-900 M shots with your target on the run...

[Herbiie]

In all my time in the military and job as a sniper, I ve NEVER seen anyone use a silencer...

Then you're not looking hard enough

They come with Silencers - weight is an issue yes, but not much of one.

[Snakey 1-1]

Herbiie, I could give lessons to Carlos Hathcock and Robert Furlong Im that damn good at shooting. I say again, no one I know has ever used a silencer in a combat/urban environment. Its just practical and for the tactical requests and deployments of the sniper systems they are just a nuisance as they are quite heavy, throw the weapon off balance when you are shooting in the standing/kneeling in the unsupported positions...

Silencers are done for more of the uber spec ops guys, where stealth is necessary. Most sniper rounds are supersonic anyways, you wont hear the shot until after the impact. So why have a silencer if your presence is going to be known a second later after the man goes down? It just doesn't make nor is it necessary for today's operations. Sure we ve got uses for them, but in my experience working with Marines and other units I ve yet to see them utilize a suppressor.

[Tte.oteo]

same in the spain marine corps

[Hitman.2.5]

L118 (Granted the one on the L118 is ****)

L118: - Light gun 105mm howitzer...

[Snakey 1-1]

Ooooo....FAIL.

Herbiie, do us all a favor...I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you look like a moron talking about things you probably shouldnt and really arent qualified to be rendering an opinion on. So just take a chill pill. relax. and LEARN a few things instead of running your yap and looking stupid.

[Hitman.2.5]

Ouch talk about a Slam