]TAR[ Texas (North America)

corp_calqluslethal · Post by **corp_calqluslethal** » 2010-05-03 04:09

I knew he was cheating, that dude that got banned a while ago. Knew it also. And he banned him for catching him and making it known.

To be honest i've seen 13 year old immature kids, that act more mature than rebiv. This not an exaggeration.
When you find a grown man that hangs out with children a lot, or acts like a young child a lot. The case can be made that the person/persons is retarded. The extent can range from mild to severe.

My real parents have been foster parents to many juveniles, many of which were mildly retarded and took medication. I have seen such kids grow up to manhood. In my opinion I think its safe to say he most likely is mildly retarded.

Many children in Rebiv's position would not exploit the power given to them. Just think about that for a second. What age child would behave like Rebiv. That further proves the case for retardation. A normal mentally developed adult would not conduct himself in such a manner. Sure us adults make mistakes from time to time. But habitual childishness is usually the case for mental retardation.

Silly_Savage · Post by **Silly_Savage** » 2010-05-03 04:36

Disregard.

richyrich55 · Post by **richyrich55** » 2010-05-03 05:08

Savage, yes he does own the server as far as I know. As to why he hasn't been ousted is beyond me. I'm not saying I like him, I'm not saying I don't like him. The only reason I'm in this clan is because of my clanmates Harrison, Dargunover, Viktor, Smitty, Triggers, Mudgunner and a few others. I'd sorely miss them if I wasn't in TAR. I'm not a fan of what he does and quite frankly I don't like it. But I'm not leaving the clan because of him. If shit hits the fan, maybe I will.

Silly_Savage · Post by **Silly_Savage** » 2010-05-03 06:20

Yeah, to be honest, it's none of my business. I've edited my post, I'll leave the decisions to others more qualified for such matters.

iAstralPr0jekt · Post by **iAstralPr0jekt** » 2010-05-03 06:46

even the clan members dont deny his actions.

"Hello welcome to Project Reality. How may I take your order?"
"yes, can I have a M203 a side of nades and a server license revoke please?
"Would you like to go large on that sir?
"ummm sure, why not."
Please pull up to the 2nd window.

Jevski · Post by **Jevski** » 2010-05-03 07:43

@iAstralPr0jekt

I can only agree on the racist thing. Some time ago, I saw a complain on realitymod, which was also later posted on their own page. That thread was later deleted on their own homepage. Other complaints was not.
The complain was that someone used the words "f*cking french" and such. Rebev said that was ok since it wasnt racist remarks.

I found this to be a false statement of his, and pointed this out in a PM. Mind you this is the first and last PM ive ever send to him.

My message:

From here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convent...Discrimination

Your quote : PR:BF2 General Discussion - Project Reality Forums
If you believe that the comments of myself and the others, joking and also serious, calling someone a "French F**K" can be considered racism, than I challenge every server to shut their doors because 90% of the PR community is racist. Since when are the people of France considered a "race".

Well you learn something new everyday.....

The UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination

Article 1 of the Convention defines "racial discrimination" as

any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.[22]

Distinctions made on the basis of citizenship (that is, between citizens and non-citizens) are specifically excluded from the definition, as are affirmative action policies and other measures taken to redress imbalances and promote equality.[23]

This definition does not distinguish between discrimination based on ethnicity and discrimination based on race, in part because the distinction between the ethnicity and race remains debatable among anthropologists.[24] The inclusion of descent specifically covers discrimination on the basis of caste and other forms of inherited status.[25]

Discrimination need not be strictly based on race or ethnicity in order to be covered by the Convention. Rather, whether a particular action or policy discriminates is judged by its effects.[26]

In seeking to determine whether an action has an effect contrary to the Convention, it will look to see whether that action has an unjustifiable disparate impact upon a group distinguished by race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin.[26]

The question of whether an individual belongs to a particular racial group is to be decided, in the absence of justification to the contrary, by self-identification.[27]

His answer:

Stop messaging me. I have little care about anything you have to say. The UN is a collective group of pacifist morons who know nothing of the plight of the human race. War is the only truth.

richyrich55 · Post by **richyrich55** » 2010-05-03 08:35

I have to admit Astral, that was pretty funny.

corp_calqluslethal · Post by **corp_calqluslethal** » 2010-05-03 17:03

HARRISON1973 · Post by **HARRISON1973** » 2010-05-03 18:33

I'm going to post this here since I don't want to have to re-type my entire response. This is a direct copy/paste from our forums. This is about a rule that they disagree with.

iAstralPr0jekt wrote:lul

if you read the title of the post you can see that he came here with a civil approach. you guys get abusive and rude when you get offended and decide to defend someone using a crooked rule that plays in your favor EVERY ROUND.

ME:
You sir, are full of ****! The OP was civil, the response was civil, it got out of hand when Fuzzy started cursing and you got in on the conversation and tried to bring up **** that had nothing to do with the post that started this thread. And you are also full of **** about it happening EVERY ROUND, and you know it.

iAstralPr0jekt wrote:I just want to add one last thing and Im done.

Ive never had a problem with any of the current members of TAR.
I am venting here on the members who are defending Rebiv and his actions and acting like it's acceptable.
To those who admit it and know its wrong and unacceptable I give respect.
I mean no offense towards you members.
Youre in it due to friendships and such. I get that.
But to stay with knowing it is not wise, unless ya wanna have to change your name in the future just to avoid affiliation with TAR and its history of behavior.

Ive had many good games with many of you. I apologize for raining on your parade.
It just seems like the right thing to do to get the word out to the community, because that is all that will fix something of this nature. It will not get fixed in the dark, hidden in the shadows. and if it doesnt get repaired than more players will waste their time not experiencing this game as it should be experienced and they'll be done dirty.

to those who know and are willing to do something about it, i salute you.
Id imagine you wouldnt want to be affiliated with all of it anyhow, would you?

ME:
No offense towards us? You call us cheaters and say we abuse our admin powers and try to lump us into the old RRF category of old, and you mean no offense? You say: "Ive never had a problem with any of the current members of TAR. I am venting here on the members who are defending Rebiv and his actions and acting like it's acceptable." That's not what this post was about, it had nothing to do with him. That rule is ours, not his.

But you just said our server was **** and you were going to try to get our license yanked. If you have no problems with current members of TAR (your words), why would you need to get "the word" out to the community? Is that because you don't like Rebiv? How childish... You don't like him so you're going to tell the other kids on the playground not to play with him... Why not just take your ball and go home?

You say we're defending Rebiv? Nothing of the kind happened in this thread. And he needs no defense, he can do that all by himself, he's a grown man. If you have a personal problem with him, talk to him like a man, not here in the forums.

And to say we bribe people with admin powers? That shows how ignorant and clueless you guys are.

We have been nothing but civil through this entire thread, You/Fuzzy/Hector have been the ones with full disrespect and rudeness. We, myself included, have done so much to try to change what RRF was and have done a great job, and for you to come here spouting this **** about us that has no validity, is insulting. We... I trusted you, more than some of TAR members, and for you to spit in my face, just because you and Rebiv have differences, well hell... Thanks for setting me straight.

Yes, things have happened in the past that should not have. Yes, we (Rebiv included) have made huge strides in changing what was. We don't have the same admin team as we did in RRF, that change was considerable I assure you. We cut out the bad admins and members and are left with a great clan. We now have an officer core that makes the decisions for the clan and the server.

As far as Rebiv, or the rest of us for that matter, being racist... that is just plain ignorant. We have members from the US, Iceland, England, Australia, Brazil, Panama, Canada, and so many others. We have races and cultures from all over the world.

The truth is, the large majority of complaints about our server, and the people that still hold on to them are from a period that no longer exists in our clan or our server. And why they are still being dredged up is beyond me, save for the fact that there are some people that are still butthurt and want to sling a dead image on what we have re-built.

The current complaints all stem from the fact that we have open practice's and scrimmages that we involve public players in, and most do a great job. The ones that have the problem are the ones that have no clue whats going on. All open practices and scrimmages are posted in advance and we have a great turnout in our teamspeak for the events. We invite everyone to visit our site, read the event planner, and follow along.

Foxxy · Post by **Foxxy** » 2010-05-03 18:36

meh...

i just dont like the TW in the server

FuzzySquirrel · Post by **FuzzySquirrel** » 2010-05-03 23:04

HARRISON1973 wrote:

As far as Rebiv, or the rest of us for that matter, being racist... that is just plain ignorant. We have members from the US, Iceland, England, Australia, Brazil, Panama, Canada, and so many others. We have races and cultures from all over the world.

That's a blind as saying "I have a black friend so I can say the N Word"

HARRISON1973 · Post by **HARRISON1973** » 2010-05-03 23:27

FuzzySquirrel wrote:That's a blind as saying "I have a black friend so I can say the N Word"

Nice Fuzzy! My point is we have just about every race/ethnic group in our clan, which would not happen if we were racist. We are about as diverse as a clan can be, and we like it that way. Saying we're racist is saying every ethnic group we have is racist against each other, which is just plain ignorant.

Keep trying though, someone may even believe you.

iAstralPr0jekt · Post by **iAstralPr0jekt** » 2010-05-03 23:27

Did you really just say Rebiv is not a racist?
Im going tro find Nano and see what he has to say about it.
Being that he is one who had to deal with it directly in regards to the N word.
Gonna try to discredit him?

Im here to offend anyone trying to defend your antics and discredit them.
Go ahead and keep trying, youre not going to win.

Reader, please believe us and do not support these kids.

My testimony is true and accurate.

Ive been here since RRF was created in the PR community and Ive been an admin since TAR's creation. Which was only created to try and hide Rebiv's antics.

These activities still continue, this is not about 1 silly rule that gives them the right to ANY asset at anytime they wish. They do this, they can and will create it and claim it's training day at ay time.

FuzzySquirrel · Post by **FuzzySquirrel** » 2010-05-03 23:32

HARRISON1973 wrote:You don't quit do you? My point is we have just about every race/ethnic group in our clan, which would not happen if we were racist. We are about as diverse as a clan can be, and we like it that way. Saying we're racist is saying every ethnic group we have is racist against each other, which is just plain ignorant.

Keep trying though, someone may even believe you.

Hectorjr21 wrote:telling racist jokes in your TS3, even though you don't realize that they are offensive to me.

You do realize hector is Hispanic right? but he's lying too, huh? Just because you have different ethnic groups in your clan, doesn't mean your not Racist...

HARRISON1973 · Post by **HARRISON1973** » 2010-05-03 23:45

FuzzySquirrel wrote:You do realize hector is Hispanic right? but he's lying too, huh? Just because you have different ethnic groups in your clan, doesn't mean your not Racist...

So Hector being Hispanic has anything to do with what happened in our forums? Wow, now you want to make this into something it isn't?

FuzzySquirrel · Post by **FuzzySquirrel** » 2010-05-03 23:50

HARRISON1973 wrote:So Hector being Hispanic has anything to do with what happened in our forums? Wow, now you want to make this into something it isn't?

That was posted on your forums...by Hector....Your saying your not racist. well 3 people have came forward and said you are.

Honestly answer this question.

If you weren't in ]TAR[ would you REALLY play on VIRGINIA? With known and admitted ghosting, or admins who cant keep their banhammers in their tool belt. Seriously...What's there to like about your server?

HARRISON1973 · Post by **HARRISON1973** » 2010-05-04 00:00

iAstralPr0jekt wrote:Did you really just say Rebiv is not a racist?
Im going tro find Nano and see what he has to say about it.
Being that he is one who had to deal with it directly in regards to the N word.
Gonna try to discredit him?

Im here to offend anyone trying to defend your antics and discredit them.
Go ahead and keep trying, youre not going to win.

Reader, please believe us and do not support these kids.

My testimony is true and accurate.

Ive been here since RRF was created in the PR community and Ive been an admin since TAR's creation. Which was only created to try and hide Rebiv's antics.

These activities still continue, this is not about 1 silly rule that gives them the right to ANY asset at anytime they wish. They do this, they can and will create it and claim it's training day at ay time.

Yea, Nano is in our TS at this very moment, I had to copy/paste your post just to see what he says. He thinks that whole statement is ridiculous. X-Fire him yourself if you like.

**EDIT**
Nano said I can post his "xfire = nano516" for reference.

myles · Post by **myles** » 2010-05-04 00:02

Not a fan of this server TW is litttle or most times not very good

HARRISON1973 · Post by **HARRISON1973** » 2010-05-04 00:08

FuzzySquirrel wrote:That was posted on your forums...by Hector....Your saying your not racist. well 3 people have came forward and said you are.

Honestly answer this question.

If you weren't in ]TAR[ would you REALLY play on VIRGINIA? With known and admitted ghosting, or admins who cant keep their banhammers in their tool belt. Seriously...What's there to like about your server?

Exactly what was posted in our forums that was racist against Hector? Here's the link folks, read it yourselves http://www.tarclan.com in the forums under Ban appeals.

And again, bringing up things from the past that do not happen anymore, and haven't happened in a long time.

And to answer you question... Yes, and the reason I joined this clan in the 1st place is teamwork and community. You see, I hung out with them for months before I joined.

iAstralPr0jekt · Post by **iAstralPr0jekt** » 2010-05-04 00:24

Dangit man, stop trying to discredit us.

We didnt all decide to just surface things up from months and months ago.

This is current issues.
It started with someone complaining about a twisted rule that once again plays in your favor when ya want it to.
It's about the ghosting your team participates in, the racism and the hell bent adminning. I was a admin too ya know. I was fair and fast. I dont see any complaints about how I did my job.

The complaints are how your guys do theirs.

Nano not standing up for it is ridiculous. Just as he didnt stand up for himself while in your clan. I used to ask him why he dealt with it and wouldnt stand up for himself. I dont believe I ever got a response.
Not all have a spine, so i guess thats that. just as you who are defending it all do not ave a spine.

RichyRich55 has a spine. Are you discrediting him as well? He's man enough to admit it at least. Respect to him and those who follow.

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