[0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

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Meza82
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[0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

Post by Meza82 »

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I've noticed this problem since about 0.87.

As a tank driver (of the M1A1 Abrahms MBT), i noticed that frequently i will not be able to see the 120mm main gun fire or see the rounds explosive impact, or even hear it (the muffled booming sound).

As a tank driver i am also leading the armor squad. as SL i will mark targets and order the gunner to fire, and the gunner will fire and hit the enemies, but i have NO way of knowing that he fired the main gun. the only reason i know the gunner fired is becuase after i tell him FIRE I SAID FIRE CONTACTS ON THE MARKER, he will respond "i did fire, u want me to engage again?" OR i will see enemies that i've marked and all of a sudden their [dead] bodies will fly in the air after an explosive shell hits them, of which i cannot see.

this only happens sometimes, maybe 75% of the time.
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I know what you mean, it's not just the Abrams either. I've experienced this with the Challenger on Al Basra. It's quite confusing/annoying.
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It also happens with the M1A2s on Kashan. I've had my gunner fire and just see bodies fly up in the air, quite annoying if you don't see them and you rage at them for not firing.
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dtacs wrote:It also happens with the M1A2s on Kashan. I've had my gunner fire and just see bodies fly up in the air, quite annoying if you don't see them and I rage at Ford for not firing.
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Yeah, I've seen this as well... it is really frustrating :-(
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Post by Smiddey723 »

Also some of the time when the gunner fires and hits the target but does not destroy it, it looks like the shell goes way off. I have also noticed this in APCs on Muttrah, I unloaded a whole mag of 14.7mm from the BTR into a LAV and hit about 75% of the time(while moving, which i must say i was quite chuffed about :D ) only to have my driver yell "YOU SUCK AT AIMING, you hit about one of them rounds into the target then". I tried explaining that it might have been ping or somthing because i definatly shot alot into him.
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re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

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Try to press "f" to change your vehicle view. Afterwords you should be able to see the canon and to zoom (default "x"). ;)
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KeksTerror wrote:Try to press "f" to change your vehicle view. Afterwords you should be able to see the canon and to zoom (default "x"). ;)
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The discussion here is about not seeing firing effects and impacts, not the actual gun itself.
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thanks for reporting!

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Re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

Post by Forsaken0u812 »

I have also received fire in an Abrams on kashan/fallujah. I cant hear the rounds impact, but i can see the minor shudder of the vehicle itself from the impact. Its really frustrating when you think you haven't taken any but you have really taken 3
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Re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

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Meza82 wrote:searched but not found: Project Reality Forums - Search Results

I've noticed this problem since about 0.87.

As a tank driver (of the M1A1 Abrahms MBT), i noticed that frequently i will not be able to see the 120mm main gun fire or see the rounds explosive impact, or even hear it (the muffled booming sound).

As a tank driver i am also leading the armor squad. as SL i will mark targets and order the gunner to fire, and the gunner will fire and hit the enemies, but i have NO way of knowing that he fired the main gun. the only reason i know the gunner fired is becuase after i tell him FIRE I SAID FIRE CONTACTS ON THE MARKER, he will respond "i did fire, u want me to engage again?" OR i will see enemies that i've marked and all of a sudden their [dead] bodies will fly in the air after an explosive shell hits them, of which i cannot see.

this only happens sometimes, maybe 75% of the time.
I HAD to make an account JUST to comment on this. it was too funny. I'm sitting here trying to find info on M1A1/A2 survivability... and I stumble on this. I could not comprehend HOW the driver wouldn't know a round had been fired or WHY a driver would be issuing fire commands. lmao. And then someone talked about shooting a LAV with a BTR and lets just say by that point I was incredibly confused why a guy from the UK was shooting a LAV with a BTR... THEN I realized this was a game and not a bunch of guys having problems with their tanks...

Anyways. In real life, the gunner yells "ON THE WAY" every time he shoots. and it's really loud too. and the TC has to designate/verify all targets. "GUNNER SABOT TANK DESIGNATE" "IDENTIFIED, RANGE 1200 METERS" "FIRE AND ADJUST" "ON THE WAY....TARGET! (that means he hit it)

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Re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

Post by Ford_Jam »

What are you talking about...
This is a thread reporting a bug in a game.

Clearly you don't actually play PR otherwise you would know that if you are crewing the Abrams ingame, sometimes the driver receives no visual or audio indication that his gunner has fired, other than voip if the gunner says something.
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Re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

Post by killonsight95 »

there should be a command that says "fired" or something like that when the cannon is well fired...
only really if the bug can't be fixed should this be implemenetd though
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Re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

Post by Total_Overkill »

Ford_Jam wrote:What are you talking about...
This is a thread reporting a bug in a game.
Perhaps he thought we were a bunch of suicidal rich kids that buy up military hardware and field it against each other in a thunderdome style death match tournament every weekend, just to add meaning to our lives! :confused:
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Re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

Post by BigNate »

Ford_Jam wrote:What are you talking about...
This is a thread reporting a bug in a game.

Clearly you don't actually play PR otherwise you would know that if you are crewing the Abrams ingame, sometimes the driver receives no visual or audio indication that his gunner has fired, other than voip if the gunner says something.
Total_Overkill wrote:Perhaps he thought we were a bunch of suicidal rich kids that buy up military hardware and field it against each other in a thunderdome style death match tournament every weekend, just to add meaning to our lives! :confused:
Aaaaaand the PR community slags another new person.

How many posts did it take them, Bob?
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Seriously guys. He figured it out, he was just explaining the wtf moment he had so that we could share his laugh. He then went on to explain some very insightful information into the protocols that real armour crews use to communicate. Using his system or making your own similar to it would solve your problem, assuming both gunner and driver can negotiate how they'll do it when they first climb in.
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Re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

Post by Pvt.LHeureux »

"THEN I realized this was a game and not a bunch of guys having problems with their tanks..."

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Re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

Post by SeanRamey »

Wow, I didnt even know of this problem and Ive never had it myself. I can clearly see the shells hit and i hear the sound but I dont clearly remember seeing a gun.
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Re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

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apzzwizzard wrote:I HAD to make an account JUST to comment on this. it was too funny. I'm sitting here trying to find info on M1A1/A2 survivability... and I stumble on this. I could not comprehend HOW the driver wouldn't know a round had been fired or WHY a driver would be issuing fire commands. lmao. And then someone talked about shooting a LAV with a BTR and lets just say by that point I was incredibly confused why a guy from the UK was shooting a LAV with a BTR... THEN I realized this was a game and not a bunch of guys having problems with their tanks...

Anyways. In real life, the gunner yells "ON THE WAY" every time he shoots. and it's really loud too. and the TC has to designate/verify all targets. "GUNNER SABOT TANK DESIGNATE" "IDENTIFIED, RANGE 1200 METERS" "FIRE AND ADJUST" "ON THE WAY....TARGET! (that means he hit it)

If you aint cav you aint shit!
I love to yell on the way but this seems like an easy interim fix to the problem.
Gunner says ontheway when he fires and reports if he hit the target.

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Re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

Post by SSnake »

Oh so this is a bug... I was playing Vehicle Warfare mode the other day and my driver was like "OMG enemy tank is at the mark, why dont you shoot it man!" for every tank we met and while I was trying to explain that I was shooting all tanks before he even marked them.
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Re: [0917] M1A1 tank driver cant see main gun fire

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I also noticed this issue for the t-90 also
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