re-ordering sniper's equipment

[Heskey]

I see what you're getting at Johnny, pretty good idea; but does the sniper kit have a radio at the moment? I don't think they do.

[Heskey]

That's what I mean. Currently they can't. Can only lase with GLTD

[iwillkillyouhun]

yeah they should really get a radio...... BWT i found the radio very complicated to use. Lill bit confusing...

and it;s impossible to do it when you get shoot at ! I rather run away than to do anything with it ! so just plz do not put the same radio as the SL has..

[Rudd]

Well why do we even have snipers then?
If they are not equipped to perform their main role then why are they still in the mod?
Thats like having a AT kit without an AT weapon.

there has already been a suggestion mod re radios for snipers, I think snipers without radios was an oversight.

[Smegburt_funkledink]

yeah they should really get a radio...... BWT i found the radio very complicated to use. Lill bit confusing...

and it;s impossible to do it when you get shoot at ! I rather run away than to do anything with it ! so just plz do not put the same radio as the SL has..

If you're a sniper and you're getting shot at, you've already failed you're role.

Personally, I love the radio that the SL gets, snipers need this piece of kit IMO.

The few times I've used the sniper kit recently, I spend more time talking to my SL than actually shooting the enemy.

The scope is an important piece of kit, it allows you to see the enemy from afar with the added bonus of shooting at priority targets. If you spot a full enemy squad, the best thing you can do is inform your SL or CO. If you start firing at them, you're going to give your position away and get into trouble. If you spot an enemy TOW, AA or whatever and a friendly asset is about to be compromised by said emplacement, take the shot.

Just because you have a long range rifle, that doesn't mean you have to shoot at every target you see, it all depends on the situation.

Most people think OMG I got the sniper kit, I'm gonna get some 1337 killz.

If it is possible to give points to players for accurately spotting targets via the radio and remove kills from the score sheet, people'd be more inclined to actually gather intel if/when the radio is added to the snipers kit.

[Web_cole]

Yeah, if snipers do get the radio, I kind of like the idea of having it in the 'main' slot. It's subtle, but hopefully people would get the message. And even if they didn't, it would allow people to say "Why the hell do you think the radio is in the main slot? Go spot some enemies ffs!"

[JohnnyTheIED]

Sniper needs a grapple hook badly.

[Teek]

Sniper needs a grapple hook badly.

*sighs*

isn't that what your spotters for? Rifleman Specialist has a grapple

[Zoddom]

You would have to change that radio, because with the radio as it is now, you could deploy FOBs and HMGs and stuff.
only the marker system should be implemented.
but there could be the problem that its possibly hardcoded for squad members to be unable to directly contact the commander.....
thats why another idea: make the sniper a squadleaders weapon?!

[Heskey]

Let's get some proper discussion on how to implement this, because if a radio is given to the kit (which it absolutely should get), then I think Johnny's suggestion is actually very good.

[iwillkillyouhun]

Let's get some proper discussion on how to implement this, because if a radio is given to the kit (which it absolutely should get), then I think Johnny's suggestion is actually very good.

yeah well i agree with him too...

cuz if you think about it a rifle man specialist can NOT be your spotter cuz he has only one field patch and he has a shotgun not a pistol which can be more effective ( but that's my personal opinopon)

[myles]

yeah well i agree with him too...

cuz if you think about it a rifle man specialist can NOT be your spotter cuz he has only one field patch and he has a shotgun not a pistol which can be more effective ( but that's my personal opinopon)

it dosent matter how many patches your spotter has or that what secondary weapon the spotter should do as littile fighting as possible or hes blowin his postion

[Tannhauser]

Personally, I love the radio that the SL gets, snipers need this piece of kit IMO.

Problem :
Sniper SLs building FOBs using radio.
[EDIT~: Ninja'd]
@Jonny : That doesn't sound very realistic now does it? A Sniper team deploying an FOB with a TOW and HMGs? Uhhh..

Commenting :

I'm getting a bit tired of this whole sniper = spotter culture that makes close to no sense in PR.
And don't start telling me how a sniper IRL does this and that. This is not RL, this is a scaled down simulation, PR. In ARMA2 I'm sure snipers would do it right (different pace, gameplay, scale...), but in a 2-4km zone things are much different than in real life.

[/sarcasm] Why even keep the sniper rifle in the sniper kit? Since snipers shouldn't fire a single round they shouldn't be given any gun. They'd be much more effective snipers now wouldn't they? [/sarcasm]

If a noob grabs the kit, I doubt he's going to give a turd about the radio anyways. He'll just switch to the rifle instantly.

Also, you guys complain the sniper is useless. But along with that, when people suggest giving the kit a grapple hook you guys go and tell them to just have a rifleman specialist along in the sniper-squad. Hold on, you do realize that this means removing yet another soldier from the front lines just to... Hook? Lol.
A sniper team already composed of both an Officer and Sniper means 2 soldiers off the flag. Add a specialist and even a medic and you got 4.. Why not a SAW, a HAT and some fries with that?

[m1oh7]

heres an idea, why not just give the sniper the same powers as SL?.

correct me if im wrong but i do believe that theres 2 sniper kits per team on a full server.

so thats technically 4 more people that can build fobs, place mg's etc.

And if im not mistaken theres a min dist between fobs and other emplacements so theres not a real danger of those snipers putting bases everywhere.


or at least we could let them commo with CO if theyre in a squad with an sl already.

and i 1up the grapple idea cos its rare to see a specialist in a sniper team for some reason


and as for snipers dont fight, bad theory, ive been able to slow down the progress of at least 2 squads at a time just by making my presence known but firing off a shot at an sl and then changing spots and repeating.

but tactics and employment of snipers is a different day and topic.

[Rudd]

I prefer the standard arrangement of equipment on the sniper tbh, knife, sidearm, rifle etc, it would feel inconsistent otherwise

though I would like to see a radio on it to help increase teamwork, it wouldn't be hard to remove the FOB options etc would it? anyway, if he has a crate...he'll just get an officer kit to build it.

if a sniper doesn't want to teamwork, he won't. If a sniper wants to teamwork, he will.

[Zoddom]

id like to see the sniper as a elite soldier with only high priority targets such as enemy commanders or enemy jets/helis on the ground, give him a barret with a big silencer and a ultimate guille suit and then we have a bad *** elite sniper, fuck off those small .338 rounds

-> "They call themselves the Ghosts"



why dont our snipers have silencers? in the manual and in the loading screen tips it always says a sniper should be invisible and only shoot high priority targets, or even nor shoot at all.
why we dont give them a silencer and then change hir role completly to an undetectable enemy who forces you behind the next best cover you can find. it would be much more effective than it is now, cause if you, as a sniper, shoot somebody, youre fucked... but imo its only realistic the other way round. if you shoot THEY are fucked... or am i completly wrong??