]TAR[ Texas (North America)

[PLODDITHANLEY]

Calquslethal, I've played with you I'm sure on RT, you've got to try and chill out with guys like this, unfortunately there are people that seem to search for a reaction by doing silly stuff, be it racism, mumble spam or whatever.
The mature, sensible guys have just got to ignore them, there is no point and rarely any satisfaction to arguing on text or VOIP. These guys often get bored really quick anyway (goldfish attention span).

If the server admins policy we/you don't like just stop playing there, if they're breaking server license rules yes then, PM Epoch and let him sort it out.

Makes me sad to see so often good guys getting so annoyed by idiotic behaviour that they stop the game all together curtailing their enjoyment and lowering the communities quality.

I think like me you are an old dude (no offence), so rise above it and don't play their game?

Just recently I was getting serious abuse as CO, calmly tell an admin, guy is IP banned and not even a rage quit from me....

[iAstralPr0jekt]

oh man I'd love to just go off about SB, all of them. But i think anyone with experience with them knows their childish BS, everyone seems to.
Especially Shughart.

It seems SB has found a perfect home with rebiv.
Theyre in the TeamSpeak frequently nowadays and they spam in their too.

SB has demonstrated some of the most childish behavior I have ever seen in the game, and out of it.
My 5 year old sister has more maturity than SB members and Im saying that in absolute complete seriousness.
The fact that Rebiv takes them serious enough to allow them to play their and use their TS speaks for itself.

This is not about how I am treated when I used to be in their server, it has to do with letting players know what to expect when going there.

[Diamond_Dog]

I think its obvious that no matter what you guys say its not going to really change. TAR members are to ignorant. Honestly I've been around for this HUGE Disaster since pretty much the start of RRF, and nothings changed. You have some admins(I count 1 Harrison) are decent and fair and then you have others who instead of doing their jobs decide to kick/ban the person reporting a problem. If you go on their forums and complain you will get banned. Look at what Hector was trying to do he started out by simply bringing something to the attention and it turned into a pissing match because TAR began taking things out of context.

Perfect case and point, I was on Muttrah on the TAR server, my community had rights to the BTR's since we had a squad CLEARLY LABELED BTR, A pubber outside our squad took it, now according to the majority of servers that is illegal and if the pubber doesn't cease and desist he will get kicked or banned depending on how many times he has had the infraction. I went to the admins, after 10 min of pointless banter back and forth and no acknowledgment of the help I was asking for. I asked if the admins would like to do their jobs since we needed the BTR. (oh side note not only was he NOT in our squad he was also ONE manning it.) I then got kicked. I messaged rebiv through Xfire explained the situation to him, he replied that he was busy(he was playing another game.) He used a few choice phrases that I will not repeat and that was that.

Obviously it's pointless to argue about all of this since nobody seems to want to do anything about it. RRF has become TAR and their reputation is right back to what it was after we left RRF. The Devs say they aren't braking any clauses which in terms of server license is correct I'm sure. However after years of hearing the SAME arguments and problems presented to the Devs, I humbly ask if perhaps the DEV'S might simply speak or monitor things for yourselves and come to your own conclusion. It's obvious that this isn't a minor thing since you have years worth of problems on this forum about this clan.
Again I mean no disrespect to the Devs at all, I just simply wish that you look and observe for yourselves and not just for a few min but for a few weeks.

[Smallz]

SB is an extremely childish clan who rebiv is somehow infatuated with. Even though Rebiv's OWN members have temporarily banned them before, he seems to love them so much that he turns a blind eye to all their antics. This includes: Stealing assets, being racist, spamming chat w/ racist remarks, and running around TKing each other on a map. I've just decided to stop playing there, the servers gone down the hill. The admins do nothing most of the time except change the map to a jet map so they can air whore. The only admin that really does his job is Harrison.

[HARRISON1973]

Let's get this back into context, Diamond Dog/Astral/Fuzzy/Hector/Smallz... I copy/pasted some of this from our own forums to keep from having to re-type.

Let's talk about abuse for a second. Hector was a good friend of TAR, he abused that friendship and made a squad too early, by his own admission, thinking he could because of that friendship and his squad was resigned. He then proceeded to curse and slander a server admin in open server chat and was kicked, not banned, and you have nothing to say to him or about that?

Instead, you want to jump on Mud and the clan for a clearly stated rule, and take that opportunity to sling **** at other members of our clan that you don't like, over things which have nothing to do with the incident?

I used to think you guys were a well rounded, level heading guys, but now I see that the use of facts and logic confuse the **** out of you. You want to call it "honor" for standing up for what you believe in? How about standing up to Hector for his abuse of trying to make an early squad and abuse of vulgarity against an admin in a public chat system.

You guys, of all people, know there is a right way and a wrong way to handle that kind of situation, but you call Mud and the clan out? And in doing so, condone Hector's actions?

That rule could have and probably should be revised, there are much better ways of handling the incident and the rule in question than to use vulgarity and slander in an open server chat and dragging it and all this other **** across 2 forums and 12 combined pages of idiocy. I have made too many attempts to rectify this already.

We had this under control a page or two back, and Astral even admitted that things have changed recently for the better. But you, Diamond Dog want to just jump on the bandwagon too? You just posted this in our forums :

Eversmann122 wrote:i hate to go agianst my own clan but i agree with rebiv we run our server our own way so why cant they so like rebiv said stfu and get over it damn i did.

You just asked to be let back into the server after Rebiv banned you, and I obliged, was that a mistake? I think so, but I'll wait and see what comes of this first.

[Smallz]

I actually haven't said anything bad about TAR as a clan. I actually like most of you guys. I think that Hector admitting that he made a jet squad early at 2:01 (as I've seen him do multiple times) and then getting angry that TAR made one first is pretty stupid. Judging what I've seen, Hector deserved to be kicked. Then again, I think the 2:05 rule is pretty stupid as well, since it can be abused to claim any asset they want. You can say "It only happens occasionally" but I don't buy that.

The only thing I have a huge problem with is the alliance with SB clan, as they are just a bunch of idiots.

As far as I'm concerned though, you guys can do what you want, its your server.

[Diamond_Dog]

Harrison, all I am saying is simply that this problem has been around and seems to refuse to go away. Obviously there's something wrong with the way TAR is run. I understand that there are few such as yourself that are good Administrators. But there are other members of you clan that are horrible admins, and hypocrites.

I do not mean to disrespect you in anyway shape or form. Yet whenever I have played on the TAR server there was always an instant where someone did something wrong that a TAR member has done in the past days before or minutes before.

Please do not try and tell me that after 9 Pages of this thread and the majority of those having negative comments, not counting the ones that have expressed dislike on other servers that it's the fault of pubbers that they are somehow delusional. It's not that hard to acknowledge that if the same people on a continuous basis complain about the same person, INCLUDING the ones that were the original members of RRF that there are issues. Look at my post count I don't spend the better part of my life on the computer nor do I ANYWHERE take issue with any servers or its leaders as bad as I do with this one.

Yes it is your server and yes you may run it the way you wish. But if you set double standards then it's no wonder that there will be huge issues. Including creating a squad for TAR members at 2:05. It will ALWAYS create problems. Do what you wish I simply don't understand how everyone in the TAR clan seems to be ignorant to the fact that if THAT many people complain that you still act as if people OTHER then TAR are the bad guys.

[HARRISON1973]

Harrison, all I am saying is simply that this problem has been around and seems to refuse to go away. Obviously there's something wrong with the way TAR is run. I understand that there are few such as yourself that are good Administrators. But there are other members of you clan that are horrible admins, and hypocrites.

I do not mean to disrespect you in anyway shape or form. Yet whenever I have played on the TAR server there was always an instant where someone did something wrong that a TAR member has done in the past days before or minutes before.

Please do not try and tell me that after 9 Pages of this thread and the majority of those having negative comments, not counting the ones that have expressed dislike on other servers that it's the fault of pubbers that they are somehow delusional. It's not that hard to acknowledge that if the same people on a continuous basis complain about the same person, INCLUDING the ones that were the original members of RRF that there are issues. Look at my post count I don't spend the better part of my life on the computer nor do I ANYWHERE take issue with any servers or its leaders as bad as I do with this one.

Yes it is your server and yes you may run it the way you wish. But if you set double standards then it's no wonder that there will be huge issues. Including creating a squad for TAR members at 2:05. It will ALWAYS create problems. Do what you wish I simply don't understand how everyone in the TAR clan seems to be ignorant to the fact that if THAT many people complain that you still act as if people OTHER then TAR are the bad guys.

What you have FAILED to see is we HAVE acknowledged the problems, and HAVE set new procedures to prevent past events from repeating. You have also FAILED to see that I acknowledge the rule in question and have taken the step necessary to change it.

We are not calling anyone delusional, in fact, we have created this new thread to testify that we are in the process of trying to see where problems may lie CURRENTLY. What we don't need is the same 3 people beating a dead horse by bringing up events over and over that we are here to change in the first place.

We know where past problems lie, we need to know where current problems are in public eyes, and by continuously pointing backwards, repeatedly, by the same people, trying to drive in their past points is mute and just make you guys look like jackasses, especially when you fail to see WE ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED THOSE.

This whole time I have been saying we need everyone's help. That takes a lot of humility on my part but I am not ashamed to say it. Do not continue to post here unless you have viable information beneficial to the progress of our server and truly want to help.

[Hectorjr21]

Let's talk about abuse for a second. Hector was a good friend of TAR, he abused that friendship and made a squad too early, by his own admission, thinking he could because of that friendship and his squad was resigned. He then proceeded to curse and slander a server admin in open server chat and was kicked, not banned, and you have nothing to say to him or about that?

Instead, you want to jump on Mud and the clan for a clearly stated rule, and take that opportunity to sling **** at other members of our clan that you don't like, over things which have nothing to do with the incident?

I never cursed at anyone, that is a complete lie, I would welcome you checking the logs on the day of incident.
Also, i had never met mud before, but he obviously thought that because he had a bad day he could resign a 6 man squad because it was made a millisecond before the allowed time of 2:00.
My friendship with TAR? I could care less about it.

[HARRISON1973]

Effective immediately, Rebiv has stepped down as leader of Tactical Assault Recon. TAR is now led by an Officer Group and will now be in charge of all clan and server responsibilities.

We will post more information as it becomes available.

[Foxxy]

i knew this would happen

[Coolio]

Effective immediately, Rebiv has stepped down as leader of Tactical Assault Recon. TAR is now led by an Officer Group and will now be in charge of all clan and server responsibilities.

We will post more information as it becomes available.

First step of action;

Ban Rebiv.

[=]H[=COEMAN]

a racist will not kick/ban anyone for racism.
make no mistake, Rebiv is a racist. I have vast amounts of experience with him as the lead of an Allied clan and spending many hour in his teamspeak.
He's used everything from slurs against asians, blacks, hispanics, middle eastern and such. Of course "he's just joking" as he says. But the jokes are so harsh that there is no possible way that a person who is not racist can joke as such.

A non racist will not joke like that.
He even called his old clan member (a nice, respectable african american fella) the N word multiple times.

He ghosts by switching teams 2 times,once to see what the enemy is up to (enemy placement on the map, cache locations), another to switch back to the right team and insta-spawn.
Instantly he relays enemy intel to his clan. He uses TS3 for this.

I might add that his clan mates seem to possibly have cleaned that up, but in all seriousness, he most likely continues to do so. He's been doing it for as long as I've known him.

Now, I am living proof and all TAR members know this is true.. I have spent hour upon hour with him in teamspeak.
I have had many arguments with him about many things. I was admin on his server for quite sometime, until yesterday when I decided enough is enough and disbanded from my old clan and the alliance with Rebivs' clan TAR.

He is known over and over to use his powerful admin all chat abilites to command teams from the position of a mere squad leader or squad member position. Basically demanding that players do as told or be removed. Even when those exact players are doing things that benefit the team.

He uses the admin fling command to attempt to make vehicles re-flip when he has flipped them, or to get those vehicles into positions which cannot be done from the driver seat.

His latest and greatest "ignore the CO, this is MY event you all do as told from me and me alone." all this while trying to lead a squad i was leading from a position as my squad member.


REBIV IS A CHEATER, A CLEAR CUT RACIST, BIGOT, A CROOKED PR SERVER PROVIDER AND AN ABUSIVE ADMIN.
HE breaks 90% of the rules that server owners of PR servers are to abide by.

Know that if you play and he is on, the chance that you are being cheated in game is high.

His clan members are not bad. He seems to have weeded out the the bad seeds, leaving only him as the last one left to be plucked from the garden.

sure his server is decent running, the map rotation is...o...k.
but the fact is that if you're not white like him he'd rather see you dead or suffering.
He also does not give 2 sh1ts about whether you are getting a fair game or not.

this is all from about 2 years experience with him as an admin on his server and an allied clan leader. There is no possible way any of his clan members can deny that this is true. I will bring forth witnesses if that happens.
but dont worry TAR i will stay off of your server and go in search of a truly fair game where i will not be cheated when my team stomps yours. (when he begins to lose, he begins to cheat).

Rebiv's xfire: Rebiv4

I always said for years, that Rebiv is a cheating, hacking fluffball and is a eye sore in the PR community.

Nice to know that little worm stepped down.

Good luck with the new clan and server Harrison

User received an infraction for insulting another member. - Octo

[Peeta]

Nice, I might play on TAR now. It's about time he stepped down. I think now TAR will become a lot more of a respectable clan.

[HARRISON1973]

*UPDATE*

As some of you know, Rebiv has stepped down as leader of TAR, and some of you have been asking through X-Fire, the reason why...

Without going into much detail, here's the short version:

Many of you know our past, and some of you know what efforts we have gone through to try to change it. But we could only change things on a small scale and they wouldn't last long.

A few weeks ago, myself and a couple other members were talking and I expressed my thoughts of leaving the clan, and the many reasons why. To my surprise, and theirs, we were all thinking the same way, for the same reasons. A few of us started asking other members just to get a general feel of the clans inner opinions and we were all shocked, every single person was thinking of leaving, and some actually did before we all had this discussion.

When I say everyone, I mean every single member of TAR had decided unanimously to leave the clan. This discussion lasted a few days and we all had enough, we would rather be clan-less and just pub and have fun than to remain in TAR. So we decided we would all do it on a certain day, all together, with one stipulation. Rebiv deserved to know why.

So the day comes and we wait for him to get on. None of us wanted to leave to be honest, but we felt we had no choice, things wouldn't change. Rebiv logs on and we start the discussion. Rebiv gets quiet and my stomach sinks, I like this guy and I didn't want to hurt him. He logs off, so we discuss and dish out my other teamspeak info so we can gather there.

About 5 minutes into this conversation he logs back in and drags me to his channel. I could hear in his voice, he was crushed, which crushed me. But much to my surprise and relief, he asked if we would stay if he stepped down, giving me full control of TAR and all assets (website/servers/teamspeak). I told him I didn't want to control the clan and that it would be better if we set up an officer group to do that (an idea we all had discussed when we decided to leave the clan).

I went back into the channel where everyone was and they agreed, I pulled him up and he asked if he would be allowed to remain a member, which we all agreed to with one condition: He was a regular member, subject to all rules and code of conduct like any other member and was subject to removal for any violation. He agreed.

The final outcome:
]TAR[ is now led by a 7 member Officer group which controls all aspects of the clan. We have voted members into certain operational positions to spread the weight of leadership into a few categories. This transition is going extremely soothe so far. We are also getting regular members into leadership type positions to create a sense of ownership, because ]TAR[ is now owned by THE MEMBERS. All members and officers are now held to the same set of rules and codes of conduct, this is the only way this kind of leadership will work. We are in the process of re-vamping our clan from the ground up.

I will update again as needed or you can view some of the changes in our forums at ]TAR[ Tactical Assault Recon

[PLODDITHANLEY]

A bloodless amicable coup de server?

[pbishop]

No more command and conquer : project reality?

Wow, my squadleader might not get kicked anymore because we are pinned down by enemies and cant get in your stupid apc! This sounds too good to be true. It was a good place to play when Rebiv wasnt around. Im glad you guys have this opportunity to redeem some respect. Good Luck guys and I hope you chose to be a group of individuals that can have as much respect for the non-clan players that you have for yourselves.

Sorry for this, but after so many arguments with you know who I just cant help myself:

"DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD", LOL

Cheers ::
Chief.Bishop

[PaveHawk]

I've played on the server a few times recently and I can honestly say it has a much more relaxed and enjoyable atmosphere. Keep up the good work.

[]TAR[ Rebiv4]

I just logged on to this page for the first time since it was created a few months ago and read some of the comments about the happenings of late.

First off, TAR is definitely in a better direction. Having to hold the entire clan on my shoulders for the past 2 years stressed me out to the point where my actions were disagreeable and erratic at best. I look back with disgust at some of the things I did, but can understand why I did them - I was overwhelmed.

Secondly, I have always wanted the officers in the clan to have an equal say and I had been pushing for it for a while as I have a new full time job for the first time in 2 years since I have fixed much of my serious health problems. The members of TAR are all great people and I do not regret recruiting a single one of them. I made serious mistakes and underestimated the consequences of what I did because of my erratic and seriously distorted sense of my surroundings.

TAR and our server mean everything to me. The friendship of those who are regulars in our server and our clan members is what keeps me playing. Having a new job and a real life to care about without the weight of the world on my shoulders anymore is fantastic. Trying to keep TAR and RRF back in the day together with just my wits was emotionally draining because I care deeply for PR and our clan's progress.

I know many of you don't like me, and to be honest, I have never really cared what people think about me. Being a server admin of one of the most popular PR servers is something you don't do for the popularity of yourself. I do it because I enjoy giving my friends a place to play. However, I do not regret the people that I or other members under my rules/guidance have banned. Most of you deserved it in one way or another and I can assure you I banned maybe 200 people over the course of the existence of Virginia and Texas USA. This is about 3500 hours of gameplay total, so thats a pretty low ratio.

Anyways, I just wanted everyone to know that yes, I have made a lot of mistakes but I just got back from taking 3 weeks off to get my real life in order after the events of the beginning of May forced me to reevaluate my life. I've released all of the stress I had from running the clan and server with little aid for so long. If I didn't care about running the best server around I wouldn't have been so stressed out, and I still do care about making it the best around, don't get me wrong, and i'll play my part in making it popular again this summer. I encourage each of you to come back and give it a try under our new rules and regulations.

I apologize to anyone who I hurt with my actions (excluding those of you who deserved it for cheating/hacking/doing distasteful acts to our server). Please understand that things are different, and my actions were defensible with only this fact: I cared far too deeply about keeping the server full at the expense of my friendship with my buddies in TAR and other clans like GS and TMP and CIA. Things will be different. However I will still do my best, in a much more sane manner, to keep our server as fresh and unique as possible by running events during the middle of the day all summer long so you don't have to play in servers with fixed rotations. We want to be and are already on the path to being the best and most friendly North American server around! Look at your options, you can't beat us when compared to you know who!

Thank you all, and I hope that you can see me in a new light now that you understand why I did what I did and what the underlying reasoning for my actions were. Things are so much more enjoyable for me as a person now that I can actually play and not worry about problems all the time! Being an officer instead of a one man leader having so much stress has made me feel like I've been born again into a warmer and brighter future.

With regards,

Rob aka ]TAR[ Rebiv4
Xfire: Rebiv4


P.S. - In response to the insults by coeman, I have only one thing to say - I hold no grudge against you old friend. Why do you? Its been 2 years since we've even had contact and nothing done that long ago should still be stirring up so much hate so close to the surface. Move on, because I sure have forgotten you long ago.

[PLODDITHANLEY]

Shit is this still an internet gaming forum?

Good post man, never played there thus don't pay attention, but a rare and mature post.

Abraham Lincoln
I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.