remove penalty for kit kill after tk

[illidur]

pretty self evident that you can still tk somebody and get the kit without being penalized and it hurts more than it helps. accidently tk your medic friend so you get his kit and revive him? nope. accidently tk a guy with the same kit as you and pick up your own kit? nope. need i say more?

[Phantom2]

No, I have seen many times where people get a sniper kit, someone teamkills him for it. And then takes it or has a squad-mate take it. If you have a squad medic, it is most likely you have more people in your squad to pick it up for you.

[illidur]

No, I have seen many times where people get a sniper kit, someone teamkills him for it. And then takes it or has a squad-mate take it. If you have a squad medic, it is most likely you have more people in your squad to pick it up for you.

huh? im not talking about sniper kits in general im talking about its useless exept to be annoying to people. if you request a sniper and im a complete noobtard im going to run you over in the passenger seat and take it. or just have my noobtard friend kill you so i can take it. what it does is become more annoying than its worth.

here is an incident that just happened to me on al basrah: me and a friend were in a scimitar and he is driving. he accidently presses "e" while im shooting and i shoot him in the head behind enemy lines. i can't even drive the scimi back to main because i get the message "check your fire and learn to use ur weapon or w/e". of course the 1 time spawning asset gets destroyed because im forced to jump out. i find the chance of that 1 instance happening to be more negative to the existance of that code than positive. i understand the devs went through trouble to emplement these safety measures but they hurt more than help

[badmojo420]

I agree with this one. Most servers have admins on most of the time. If someone team kills you for your kit, its easy enough for the admins to see the teamkill message and look at the player list to see if he has your kit, and then ban him. It's not such a huge widespread problem that it needs ingame mechanics to defeat it. Especially since this game relies heavily on teamwork and with just a little bit of teamwork this "kit protection" can be easily circumvented.

And also, with the new kit bags not having pictures, it's very difficult to tell which kit your picking up, so more often than not i'll accidentally pick up the same kit as someone who just stepped on my grenade trap across the map.

[goguapsy]

Nop, keep the limitations.

It is actually funny when you and a buddy are creeping into an enemy-held compound just to shoot eachother on sight...

LOLs > gameplay

[Excavus]

I agree. There have been many times I have accidentally TKed my own medic and I try to revive him but it kills me when I pick up his kit instead.

[LithiumFox]

It was put in place for a reason, and i think it should stay that way. Players will eventually revert back to their old habits, so... i feel like it should stay. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

It's put in place so that if, for instance, you got a sniper kit, but someone else wanted it, they just can't kill you and take it. No there are NOT admins on all the time, because it just so happens that people do sleep and have lives.

I'd rather have the game make SURE it doesn't happen than have to wait 30 minutes for an admin to get on. =/

[Dev1200]

I've seen it hurt myself more then help. =\

[Rudd]

its annoying now, but without this mechanic the amount of TK-kit stealing was atrocious and a severe strain on server admins constantly having to sort out this stuff.

not Tking is always the preferable fix watch your fire, communicate with eachother to ensure you don't hurt eachother, walk behind rather than infront of stationalry friendlies who are watching a sector.

[alberto_di_gio]

I think it is good as it is.

"Accidentally team killing you medic and being the only one around to get his kit to revive" VS "A..Holes team killing you just because they want lone wolfing with the sniper" probabilities definitely against the first one

[badmojo420]

It sucks that some people would rather play along side players who would team kill them for their kit given the chance. When we could just give them the ability and see them face the consequences,(being banned) thus improving the quality of the players next to you.

[Sir.Grossi]

Fine the way it is...

If you TK accidently and then pick up the kit, you only do it once. Lesson Learned!

If you TK you medic whilst he is healing you then that's just stupid

If your medic is running around in front of you whilst you are engaging targets then....see above!

In the case mentioned by the OP, then that's just really bad luck.
Question is why were you so isolated from the rest of your team that
you were in a position to easily lose the asset??

It's annoying once in a while!! But no where near as annoying as the
the silly folks who TK to get kits.

It's a small price to pay IMO.

[Jarryd_455495]

Well firstly I'ld just like to say 'Sh!t happens'. If you accidently shot him then swear if you want, but work towards a solution that doesn't envolve making it easier for idiots to steal your kit via TKing.
Plus i'm sure admins don't want to waste their time watching who TKs for kits when they have lots more things to deal with and have some fun instead of having to put up with selfish players.
Maybe ask for some blue guy to come sneak to you, or heres a crazy idea, Move with maybe one more person.

sum it up: Please don't change it.

[snooggums]

I've only experienced it as a punishment for accidental TK's, yes I forget after a month or two that the punishment is there since I never see it happen to anyone, and I don't ever remember TKing for a kit to be a big issue but maybe I'm just not playing on wild west servers. I've always seen admins respond quickly to reports of TKing for kits/vehicles/etc.

[chrisweb89]

I don't know if it could be coded but could the killing you after you TK and pick up the kit depend on if the person punished or not? If not I would just want it removed, griefers and TKers will always be around and can only be dealt with by admins, they can already team up and get around this system now and it just hurts accidental TKs.

[alberto_di_gio]

I don't know if it could be coded but could the killing you after you TK and pick up the kit depend on if the person punished or not? If not I would just want it removed, griefers and TKers will always be around and can only be dealt with by admins, they can already team up and get around this system now and it just hurts accidental TKs.

hmmm.. actually this is interesting.

Punished or Undecided = Instant Dead
Forgive = you can take the kit.

[illidur]

I think people are forgetting that there are multiple easy ways to tk without getting a penalty or even showing your name on the screen. after that somebody could just grab the kit and walk away leaving the admins to do what this failed to do. TBH i have never had anybody tk me for a kit, not once since ive been playing .85! this however could backfire every day because if you play the game alot you are going to accidently tk atleast once a day. i'd say its more annoying than helpful. but it was a great idea! props to whoever thought of it.

[Oskar]

I don't know, I think I play this game quite a lot, but I definitely don't TK every day.

[Bellator]

If you TK accidently and then pick up the kit, you only do it once. Lesson Learned!

Complete and utter nonsense.

I have several times accidentally shot or driven over a friendly medic (or who I think was a medic). Then I've gone and grabbed his what I presumed was a medic kit, in order to revive him. Of course, every time I think "I won't do that again", but I do anyway, out of good will and quick action. When I 'TK', I don't think "Don't grab his kit, don't grab his kit!", I'm thinking: "oh shit oh shit". I absolutely agree that this stupid and annoying relic needs to go. It doesn't prevent kit theft as the thieves can work in groups anyway.

Either completely remove it. Or only apply it to very popular kits like snipers, marksmen, SAWs, LATs and HATs (and then mark out these kits clearly). Don't apply it to medics or standard riflemen.

[illidur]

ok... hmm perhaps that was too much player dependent. but would you say you tk more than you get tked for your kit? thats what i was implying. i have had people tk me for trucks or bikes though