Tank tactic real life vs PR

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Hitman.2.5
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Cassius wrote:IRL there are limiations on you that prevent you from fireing AT weapons indoors. Except for the LAT CS maybe.
that the thing with the water bag that allows you to fire from a building?
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sharon.wilson321
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i think it does allow you: :-?
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Post by gazzthompson »

Hitman.2.5 wrote:that the thing with the water bag that allows you to fire from a building?
Yes.

AT4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The problem of back blast has been recently solved with the AT4-CS (Confined Space) version, specially designed for urban warfare. This version uses a saltwater countermass in the rear of the launcher to absorb the back blast; the resulting spray captures and dramatically slows down the pressure wave, allowing troops to fire from enclosed areas.
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you can also fire a javelin from a small enclosed space.. but thats longer range.
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Also, in real life a few HEAT shells would make anything in/near a building croak. In BF2 physics, we all know how the wooden post supporting things can stop 120mm SABOT rounds :P
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dtacs wrote:Slow moving ones, which would have landed, not Lynx's speeding away at a parallel angle going 150 km/h.

Same goes for TOWs.
No the leopard can take down an apache or lynx flying from left to right at full speed thanks to its targeting software. Why wouldnt they be able to feed data to take down a helicopter flying at 150 Km/h if it can take down a slow flying helicopter, its a computer.
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Whenever I play I usually see that armor is just off in the distance far away from troops.
Cassius wrote:No the leopard can take down an apache or lynx flying from left to right at full speed thanks to its targeting software. Why wouldnt they be able to feed data to take down a helicopter flying at 150 Km/h if it can take down a slow flying helicopter, its a computer.
You could use a Leopard, I would rather bet on anti-air weapons like MIM-104 Patriot for that job.
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Cassius wrote:No the leopard can take down an apache or lynx flying from left to right at full speed thanks to its targeting software. Why wouldnt they be able to feed data to take down a helicopter flying at 150 Km/h if it can take down a slow flying helicopter, its a computer.
There is no way the turret transverse speed would be able to track a helicopter going that fast, or pardon me, 324 km/h according to Wikipedia. Plus, you haven't sourced what you're saying.
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dtacs wrote:There is no way the turret transverse speed would be able to track a helicopter going that fast, or pardon me, 324 km/h according to Wikipedia. Plus, you haven't sourced what you're saying.
You are right, no tanks in the world have a turret that can traverse fast enough to keep up with a fast moving target.

Here is an example how ever of the Leopards targetting capability.

YouTube - Leopard C2 Tank firing while driving off jump!.

I wouldn't be surprised though that the targeting system on the tank could easily track and destroy a slow moving helicopter.
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The chances of nabbing a helicopter going at full chop is basically down to luck and proximity fuses.

You also have to recall that tank guns do not actually have powerful enough stabilization to keep the gun pointed exactly where it should be, so the FCS orders the fire command once the gun swings into the right place long enough to fire a round that clears the barrel.
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dtacs wrote:There is no way the turret transverse speed would be able to track a helicopter going that fast, or pardon me, 324 km/h according to Wikipedia. Plus, you haven't sourced what you're saying.
If a modern MBT has a turret traverse rate of 30-40° per second that equates to .524 to .698 radians of movement per second. 324km/h is 90m per second. Therefore a turret will be able to match the helicopter's speed at a distance of 90/.524=172m and 90/.698=129m respectively.
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Hunt3r wrote:The chances of nabbing a helicopter going at full chop is basically down to luck
But shooting down A-10's with a T-72 is down to skill ;)
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stiff wrote:If a modern MBT has a turret traverse rate of 30-40° per second that equates to .524 to .698 radians of movement per second. 324km/h is 90m per second. Therefore a turret will be able to match the helicopter's speed at a distance of 90/.524=172m and 90/.698=129m respectively.
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I'm no expert, but I seriously doubt attack helicopter crews would fly in a manner that reveals their presence to enemy armor before they attack them. Shoot and scoot from several kilometers away. Not to mention that tanks don't have radars.
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YouTube - M1A2 Abrams tank
@ 2.28 , is that a termal sensor radar?
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Pantyfas wrote:YouTube - M1A2 Abrams tank
@ 2.28 , is that a termal sensor radar?
Infrared camera?
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IRL firing into a compound is effective, things get destroyed. in game not so much. even with the risks involved sometimes the only way to kill people, while in a vehicle, in the compounds you have to drive in.
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