What is Project Reality?

[Jeremey]

ive got an idea: buy him LEGO online

Love having no Credit Card. Plus that wont do any good it'll be weeks before anything would even get here.

[Wicca]

Hey jeremy Welcome to the Community!

I would like to say 5 year olds in PR! Awesome, thats epic! and 12 year olds they learn quick!

This could be a really good way for them to safely know Social Rules and Developing their Sence of Leadership and unity.

But, this is a game dedicated to realistic warfare. So remember, some people take this very seriously, and they even make sounds when they get shot.
Also you actually get so involved into this that you start looking for enemies when your walking about.

Just remember, have a keene eye in the so called "manual" and join squads and use voip, ask your squadleader what to do.

Sometimes when your new, you feel the amount of info might be to much, just learn the "systems" like contact reports, and Grids, aswell as where your squad is, and how your kit works. Reading the manual is good, but trial and failure is the best teacher.

[Zimmer]

In my opinion 12 and 5 years olds should not play PR, for the first I dont really know how much both of them will understand the concept at all with players and people telling them or commanding them to do different stuff, besides many people get frustrated because in PR its not about what player owned its more about the team to actually play to win then your own score, and alot of the gameplay is about not screwing things up and a high pitch voice does not really help when your brother have screwed up, especially under situations when your heart beats faster then normal(yes it happens because there are not constant action, when hell breaks loose its usually fast and its either calculated or surprising, but the situations in between is very dull tbh) and some people can take it very seriously. There are lots of other mods to BF2 that should be more enjoyable like AIX, Forgotten Hope 2, Pirates(dont know the excact name) could also be something. I just feel the mod is not suited to a 12 or 5 year old at all. Even if its not a fullfledged military simulator, the mod requires teamwork and communication and you need to be able to take alot of information at once. Enemy 120 degrees, enemy at my marker, enemy heli up, tank spotted at grid coordinates xxxxxx etc, that may not come at the same time, but in general there is a flow of information all the time when the game is played properly.

But hey thats my opinion I play so rarely now that I guess I would not dump into your little brother in any case.

@wicca: a 5 year old has maybe started to read, and I would say reading is alot easier then playing PR. And I cant say I have gotten alot of social skill playing PR over the years.

[PLODDITHANLEY]

I'm sure there's already some five year olds out there playing ... whats that guy Fi...FIght something, I think he may have been banned for being too immature anyway.

[=]H[=CubCadet1972]

Jeremy, a 5 year old trying to play this game is going to get both of them banned on a lot of servers. This is not a twitch shooter, it's more of a Mil-Sim. The players telling you that it's not for a 5 year old aren't kidding. It takes communication and team work. Disabling VOIP is already going to hinder them from the get go, the vehicle controls are often quite difficult to work easily, and many squad leaders are simply going to kick a player from their squad when they find out they can't hear their instructions. No one is going to type out squad instructions.

Get the 5 year old a more appropriate game. That's why they put the ESRB ratings on them.

Also, if you are going to discount the opinions of seasoned players, why even bother asking the question. We aren't blowing smoke up your ***, we're telling you the truth, It's a very difficult game to learn, and not suited to a 5 year old.

[Underwatercave]

This is like mario and stuff. You can spawn with Joshi and you have to kill flying turtles etc.

[=]H[=CubCadet1972]

As far as the no credit card thing, pick up a pre-paid amazon.com gift card at Walmart or any large grocery store, look around in the checkout aisles, they are everywhere. If you pay for faster shipping, it will only take a few days rather than weeks to get whatever you need.

[CCCode]

Extreme patience, teamwork, ears (Listen to your squad leader if you got one), logical thinking - Things required to play PR without getting kicked, banned or a bad reputation...

[Psyrus]

Yep to reiterate in a succinct fashion what everyone else has said:
- Game is great
- Game is appropriate for you
- Game might be appropriate for the 12 year old, depending on his maturity
- Game is not appropriate for a 5 year old

[Rudd]

if the 5 year old must play computer games, I'd get him started on whatever the modern equivalent of theme hospital is tbh

[Wh33lman]

Honestly, I don't see how games get frustrating. We all 3 played XBox Live for a while but I switched to PS3 (Free Online Gaming.) So we play on that.

Halo is not PR. Strike at Karkland is a pretty fast paced map. by the time the round is over, you have probably seen the entire map twice. there are maps in PR that even 3 years later im finding new things. there are entire rounds where ive seen only about 1 city block. its often times a whole lot of walking followed by a few moments of a firefight. followed by more walking.

[Spec]

No 5 year old on earth will ever understand tactics that are good enough to confuse adults who played the game for years.

And about the 12 year old - we're not saying he won't be able to play it. He might. But I seriously doubt he'd enjoy it at all. Half the time you walk/sit in the back of transport vehicles and talk to strangers. Most of the rest of the time you are under suppressive fire and hope not to get shot. Least amount of the time you actually get action - and then every move counts.

I don't want to make the game look bad. There's 12 year olds who are masters at chess, and I'm sure a few might enjoy a game like this. But it's unlikely.

[Jigsaw]

Just a general request gents to keep replies civil. I've handed out one warning for an unhelpful post in this thread and I don't want any others so please simply respond to the OPs questions as best you can.

Cheers




OT; in my own opinion 5 year olds should not be playing computer games, and certainly not ones as demanding as PR. Understand that this is a game about teamwork, cooperation and strategy and I can tell you for sure that when I was 5 I doubt I even knew what those words meant.

Your 12 year old should be fine, not the youngest that I am aware of who has played the game although I would always urge that you always take into account the ESRB rating for all games, in this case it is 16+.

Psyrus summarises the bulk of the posts in this thread rather well:

Yep to reiterate in a succinct fashion what everyone else has said:
- Game is great
- Game is appropriate for you
- Game might be appropriate for the 12 year old, depending on his maturity
- Game is not appropriate for a 5 year old

[boilerrat]

Psyrus really summed it up, not much more discussion needed.

But I wouldn't want to have to babysit a 5 year old in my squad, I come on to play seriously and pray that everyone else is competent enough to play also.

A new player I can deal with no problem, but teaching a new player and having to babysit I wouldn't do.

Besides the difficulty of the game itself, you have to think about the players.

There is a considerable amount of bestiality talk as insurgents when trying to negotiate a cease fire by trading some damn sexy goats.

Plenty of drugs being spoken about also, considerable amount of swearing... its really more of a ratio.

[Startrekern]

Mainly the reason that a five year old cannot play this game is because it requires an understanding of basic and sometimes advanced military tactics, using a wide variety of controls within a very short span of time, and a general situational awareness and attention span that a five year old might not be able to have.

The twelve year old will be perfectly fine, though, provided he likes military stuff.

[killonsight95]

i advise that the 5 year old might want to playa game like warrock (a free downloadable game, it does involve blood, but it's got a quite some action and swearing is blocked on chat).

[goguapsy]

All you gotta do is google it! (Or wiki it).

Project Reality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[commando5550]

The 12 years old will go perfectly fine, if he's mature enough.

I was 10-11 (yeah, seriously) when I started playing PR and I absolutely loved it. I have always hated run and gun games (for the exception of Halo but I like the story, not the gameplay) and I've always liked military stuff. The high pitched voice for me wasn't really problem in the first two years . Only problem for my playing is that nobody at my age (14 year olds) in my area has patience to play something like PR.

[Web_cole]

if the 5 year old must play computer games, I'd get him started on whatever the modern equivalent of theme hospital is tbh

Screw the modern equivalent

[Beowulf2525]

Jeremey,

As most of the others have said and Psyrus expertly posted:

Originally Posted by Psyrus View Post
Yep to reiterate in a succinct fashion what everyone else has said:
- Game is great
- Game is appropriate for you
- Game might be appropriate for the 12 year old, depending on his maturity
- Game is not appropriate for a 5 year old

Project Reality is a game that attempts to make the game as realistic as possible in almost every manner. This isn't Counter-Strike or Halo where you walk around absorbing bullets like a sponge. In PR, when you get shot you die or bleed to death. Often times, you will never know who shot you and where from. In Project Reality, you will spend more time walking around a map than seeing enemy persons. In addition, unlike those games where spawn occurs relatively fast (CS can vary), death in PR means an increase of a few seconds each time you die. I have had rounds where my respawn can take me more than 40 seconds and when I do spawn, I'll spend an additional 10 minutes attempting to get back to my squad's rendezvous.

This is also a mod where instant vocal communication is the savior of maps and your buddies in your squad. The ability to instantly tell you squadmates, "Hostile squad coming around the corner ASAP," will save your squad and affect the entire game. Typing messages is just too slow to help your team in almost all situations.

Additionally with the communication, many players are former/current military personnel or military enthusiasts which means the language barrier can be quite high in some cases. "Hostile FOB marked at 210 degrees, grid D5kp7. Requesting CAS on said marked location. Will LAZ as necessary." To be honest, I have heard similar phrases quite often. And when things go south for a team, foul language can become extreme.

This is a game meant for mature, mature, players. This is a game meant for people who can think critically and fast. While you may follow a squad leader, the time will come where he/she is down and you as the squad member needs to assume command and dictate the life of the rest of your squad.

Will you be able to play it? Of course. Will your 12 year old be able to play it? Maybe, maybe not. I would think so if he is capable of adjusting to a new style of gameplay. Can your 5 year old play it? Absolutely not. While he may be able to get a kill, the game is not just about killing. To paraphrase a game tip, it says, "Killing is not always a priority. Keep in mind the overall objective of your team and aim to accomplish that."

The people responding don't mean to be critical or sound jerkish, but what they are saying is true. This is a great, addicting game, but only for those who are capable of handling all aspects of this intense game.