[Faction Feedback & Questions]

Discussion pertaining to the PR Norwegian Forces faction.
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MCI
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by MCI »

H.sta wrote:they are FH2 statics, as far as i remember FH2 don't want to share their statics

but I might be wrong, I will look into it

anyone here knows?
They shared there Enfield
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kakemonsteret
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by kakemonsteret »

Howdy! I have a suggestion. I know that you are planning to include the Barrett M82 rifle in the Norwegian Armys weaponry. This rifle has been a subject of controversy in Norway, because it has been used against personnel. Though the Norwegian defence minister and several other high ranking officers in the Norwegian Army has said that it is not meant for use againt people, only "hard" or "semi-hard" targets.

- Våre retningslinjer er klare. 12,7mm «multi-pupose»-ammunisjon skal kun brukes mot harde og semi-harde mål, ikke mot personell. Unntaket er ved rent selvforsvar der andre våpen og annen ammunisjon ikke er tilgjengelig, svarer til slutt general Roar Sundseth, nestkommanderende ved FOHK.

- Slik ammunisjon er i utgangspunktet kun for harde mål. Men i nødssituasjoner kan det finnes unntak, der man er nødt til å handle offensivt for å beskytte seg selv eller medsoldater, sier Strøm-Erichsen til VG.

Dreper fra 1380 meter - VG Nett om Forsvaret

What if there's a penalty for using the M82 against people in the game, just like there's a penalty for shooting civillians? :o
pleym
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by pleym »

kakemonsteret wrote: ....
- Våre retningslinjer er klare. 12,7mm «multi-pupose»-ammunisjon skal kun brukes mot harde og semi-harde mål, ikke mot personell. Unntaket er ved rent selvforsvar der andre våpen og annen ammunisjon ikke er tilgjengelig, svarer til slutt general Roar Sundseth, nestkommanderende ved FOHK.

- Slik ammunisjon er i utgangspunktet kun for harde mål. Men i nødssituasjoner kan det finnes unntak, der man er nødt til å handle offensivt for å beskytte seg selv eller medsoldater, sier Strøm-Erichsen til VG.

Dreper fra 1380 meter - VG Nett om Forsvaret

What if there's a penalty for using the M82 against people in the game, just like there's a penalty for shooting civillians? :o
First of all my friend dont listen to every thing thats written in VG.. The ingame M82A1 will be used against infantery like they do in Afghanistan and other places if needed.. The army have crated an research rapport about the MP ammo that you can read here: http://www.mil.no/multimedia/archive/00036/Virkningen_av_12_7mm_36061a.pdf
the main part is written in english...

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Dev1200
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by Dev1200 »

H.sta wrote: IT WILL BE DONE WHEN IT IS DONE

Wondering an approximate date is illegal in PR forums : D


Also, Everything looks great. I thought norway was closer to being finish(lol)ed, but oh well.
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Zimmer
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by Zimmer »

multi-pupose
I also gave that out, but I think KP proved me wrong multipourpose ammo is not regular 50 cal ammo.

Raufoss Mk 211 as its name have a fuse that creates an exlpoding and incendiary effect a normal 50 cal bullet has no such effect, on the thing you linked to VG I can copy and past what Forsvaret found out:
Trials conducted by Forsvarets Forskningsinstitutt[2] (Norwegian Defence Research Establishment) has concluded that the ammunition most likely does not have an unlawful effect if unintentionally used against personnel, as the round will have penetrated the body and exited on the other side before the fuze of the weapon triggers the incendiary and explosive components of the round. Hitting a person the round will detonate about 50% of the time; if the target is wearing body armor a higher detonation frequency is to be expected (as shown by the ICRC tests[3] carried out in 1999)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raufoss_Mk_211

Its wikipedia, but its refering to an actual trial by the Norwegian defense research establishment.
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ForceR3c0n
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New Favourite Faction!

Post by ForceR3c0n »

I've had a sneak peek at the great work that has been done on the mod so far and i have to congratulate you all on the great work done!!!! From what I've seen so far i have to say that I'm thoroughly excited to play this faction. Especially the Boat!!!.
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Post by ebevan91 »

It's definately shaping up to be a great faction.
RHYS4190
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Re: New Favourite Faction!

Post by RHYS4190 »

But yeah it will be great, just for the varity.
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by KP »

Merged your thread with an already existing, more appropriate one. ;)
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Zimmer
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by Zimmer »

Will the Afghanistan soldier model get this sort of helmet?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... rHK416.jpg

Can also be seen alot here:

Her blir norske soldater beskutt - - Verden - Aftenposten.no
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I found this sentence quite funny and since this is a war game forum I will put it here. No offense to the french just a good laugh.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. All you do is leave behind a lot of noisy baggage."
H.sta
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by H.sta »

the fact is that the norwegian army is looking into a lot of new helmets to replace the old one(as tthis helemt is har to mount things on and do not offer complete protection... oh and is really heavy), and will eventually decide wich one to buy... or they will continue as they do now, buying different helmets and randomly giving them out to norwegian troops in afghanistan while the soldiers back in norway will keep their current helmet

the soldiers on these pictures are from the Telemark Battalion, all of them are professional soldiers, and have better equipment and also the option of buying their own stuff, like the ACOGs

besides that, we have nobody to make new kit models, and nobody to eksport and animate them, that is why we are using kits gemoetrys allready ingame
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by Zimmer »

I guessed as much it was only for the professionals cant make conscripts look 1337 :p

Though didnt know they where testing alot of helmets.
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I found this sentence quite funny and since this is a war game forum I will put it here. No offense to the french just a good laugh.
"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. All you do is leave behind a lot of noisy baggage."
H.sta
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by H.sta »

there are several types issued right now to varius units

like the ACH/MICH 2002 Gunfighter-cut helmet, or the Kejo SF Helmet(Class 3) as used in the pictures above

none have been selected yet. atleast the afghanistan personell don't have to wear that bucket issued here now, it is heavy, it is har shooting while prone and you can't fit any equipment on it, or use radio or earprotection

they are actually considering just cutting down parts of the excisting Cato Ringstad Helmets... kind of like bying a truck and wanting a small car, deciging it would be equally functuanll cutting the truck than purchasing a Mini Cooper

but as a reprasentative for the norwegian "våpenskolen" (school of weapons(?)) said, they are more likely to make a completly new helmet, and not use pre-excisting versions:

"Cluet er at vi må se fremover i tid og ikke kjøpe det som er hyllevare nå, for da kjøper vi gårsdagens teknologi. Vi må kjøpe med tanke på fremtiden og med hovedmål om at hjelmen skal beskytte oss riktig i forhold til vekt, men hele tiden ha i bakhodet at hjelmen skal fungere som en plattform for annet utstyr.
Dette er en ikke helt enkel balansegang, men jeg har troen på at dere blir fornøyd med resultatet vårt.
Derfor prioriterte vi å ikke bruke tid på oppgradering av dagens hjelm for mangfoldige millioner kroner, men heller sette alt inn på å skaffe dere en ny hjelm i løpet av ASAP"

Google Translate:

"the clue is that we must look ahead and not buy those off the shelf now, because then we buy yesterday's technology. We must buy for the future and with the goal that the helmet will protect us properly in relation to weight, but always keep in mind that the helmet will serve as a platform for other equipment.
This is not entirely easy balancing act, but I have faith that you will be satisfied with our results.
Therefore, priority, we do not spend time upgrading the current helmet for many million, but rather put everything into getting you a new helmet during the ASAP"
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KP
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by KP »

H.sta wrote:...the clue is that we must look ahead and not buy those off the shelf now...
Just like they did with the combat vest? Or accessories to the HK416? Or that CR helmet rubbish? FFS. :d uh:
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Olefurz
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by Olefurz »

Does anyone know when the norwegian faction will be finished??
Naruto-kun
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by Naruto-kun »

It will be finished when its done :razz:
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HeXeY
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by HeXeY »

Olefurz wrote:Does anyone know when the norwegian faction will be finished??
No, no one knows whenever a mod/game or whatever is finished, eventually it is, and hopefully they've completed it before the release date, which some might know what is, but in this case, they don't. It'll be released when it's done.
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ebevan91
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by ebevan91 »

Olefurz wrote:Does anyone know when the norwegian faction will be finished??
Well it's gotta be coming sometime in the not-so-distant future. Alot of their weapons were in the last couple of PR highlights and the devs say if it's in the highlights then it'll be in the game in the near future.
psyckomonkey
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by psyckomonkey »

are you planning any fjord maps that one side will try to protect, and another side is launching an amphibious/air assault to capture the fjord?

then it would have been awesomeness i you choose Storekvalfjord in Stjernøya (Star island:razz :) in Finnmark. :) the terrain on the island is pretty unique, and Storekvalfjord is the largest populated area on the island.

if you think thats an good idea, or want to see pics at the place, contact me

EDIT: this wasnt really the right thread for this post
H.sta
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Re: [Faction Feedback & Questions]

Post by H.sta »

we have a map in the works for the Geiranger Fjord

other than that the general rule here is that you don't suggest map sites, you make it yourself

if you are interested there is a big section on mapping: Modding Tutorials - Project Reality Forums

and if you wan't to make a map for the Norwegian Forces Faction, we will do our best to help you every step of the way :D
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