Jet hydra rockets

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Damian(>>>PL
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Jet hydra rockets

Post by Damian(>>>PL »

Solidiers on ground can't see/chear hydra rocket from jets.
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HeXeY
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Re: Jet hydra rockets

Post by HeXeY »

You should really explain more :)

For example, what plane, map, server and possibly layer, also how far away from the plane you were and such things.

I'm sure screenshots and/or video and steps to reproduce it would be much appreciated by the DEVs as well ;)
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Re: Jet hydra rockets

Post by Hitman.2.5 »

Damian(>>>PL wrote:Solidiers on ground can't see/chear hydra rocket from jets.
to be honest most jets in PR fire onto markers therefore they will be out of view and probably out of an audible distance, plus a rocket motor on a FFAR only last a small part of its flight so your very likely to not see or hear them been fired from a jet
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Re: Jet hydra rockets

Post by Dev1200 »

I think he means hearing them land. They don't make the explosion sound, similar to attack choppers BVR'ing.
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Bufl4x
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Re: Jet hydra rockets

Post by Bufl4x »

I have experienced this as well, rockets and their explosions are invisible to a ground observer, regardless of range and team.

Tested with the frogfoot on Coop and PvP servers, kashan64, 0.917.

Interestingly, this very same bug happened in point of existence 2 as well, the su-25 had invisible rockets for anyone but the pilot.
Moonlight
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Re: Jet hydra rockets

Post by Moonlight »

I don't want to make another thread, so... What is the effective range (in game) of those unguided jet rockets anyway? I mean, I kow you can effectively use bvr with your jet's gun but dunno about rockets. ;]
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Re: Jet hydra rockets

Post by Jaymz »

I'm confident this problem an be fixed.

If someone an document whih jets/helicopters have this problem, that would help.
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Andy[EEF]
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Re: Jet hydra rockets

Post by Andy[EEF] »

Moonlight wrote:I don't want to make another thread, so... What is the effective range (in game) of those unguided jet rockets anyway? I mean, I kow you can effectively use bvr with your jet's gun but dunno about rockets. ;]
Well, the effective range (maximum) really you should be firing hydras at is about 1500m, as after that the spread and drop of the rockets makes them useless.

I just did some testing- and Damian(>>>PL is right, you can't hear or see rockets being fired from jets, even on your own team.

In this video, the GAU8 firing was to signify that I had fired several FFARs from beyond visual range. As you can see, the objects the bunker outside blew up after being hit with the rockets, but there was no explosion from the rockets impacting:

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I also tried upping the viewdistance to see if it's related to that, but it isnt. As you can see in this next video, the same thing happens. I also showed that even close to the jet you can't see the rockets being fired if you aren't the pilot:
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I also tried doing the same thing with the SU-25 as well, and the same problem happens.


Oh- and another note- it also seems that firing a jets cannon from beyond visual range only can be seen/heard for whichever team the jet is on, and not the enemy team- this problem also happens to attack helicopter cannons when fired from beyond visual range.

However, FFAR explosions can be seen for all attack helicopters when fired from within visual range-but they don't appear to show up at all when fired from beyond visual range, regardless of whatever team you are on.
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Re: Jet hydra rockets

Post by =Toasted= »

Dev1200 wrote:I think he means hearing them land. They don't make the explosion sound, similar to attack choppers BVR'ing.
Yeah, I believe they are very similar.
The chopper thread details similar experiences to what the OP is describing.
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