Weapon/bullet sounds.

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obZen
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Weapon/bullet sounds.

Post by obZen »

Just a suggestion, I'm sure this has been talked about somewhere before, but I find the sounds in PR to be lacking quite a bit...Real bullet and gun fire sounds are a bit more intimidating than cap gun sounds we currently have.

When I fired a rifle/SAW for the first time, I was more surprised by the echo/doppler sound which is almost non existant in PR, it's way more intense than the actual gunfire itself. As well firing a rifle I could hear the sound of the buffer spring in the buttstock with me head up to it, but i don't expect anything that crazy with the sounds...

An example:


As well the sound of bullets hitting the ground near you...the whip cracking sound you hear is just the target, but after that is bullet hitting the dirt.

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LithiumFox
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Post by LithiumFox »

Read the Developer pages. They just say they went to go record sounds of awesome. :D

[url=http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f112-pr-bf2-tales-front/91678-universal-teamwork-oriented-player-tag.html]
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Post by Rudd »

compared to vbf2 PRs sounds are awesome imo :P

the problem is that YT videos are too low quality to use as sound sources at least that was the case before the HD options. the sound engineers can only use HQ videos for sounds.

I know the lads recorded the UK vehicles at the sound event, I dunno about small arms, but if they did I'm sure they have a surplus of great sounds :)
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Post by bosco_ »

1. Set ingame sounds to max.
2. Turn up speaker and subwoofer volume to 300%
3. ???
4. Profit!
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Small Arms is a next project, hopefully :) .
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Anderson29
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"the whip cracking sound you hear is just the target, but after that is bullet hitting the dirt."

take the target down and i bet u still hear a "crack"......which is the bullet breaking the sound barrier.
here is a firefight video i was involved in <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/6rTjwoKTE5A&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/6rTjwoKTE5A&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>[/youtube]

im the tall guy far left at the very first seconds....and the guy over to the left at 1:35....and me leaning against the tree at 2:08 watching my hmmwv get towed off, needed to get my assault pack out....taking cover at the rear of the hmmwv at 2:26...more ammo and mortar rds arrive at 3:30...we are setting up an OP/firebase now, seriously..lol named op3...my truck again at 4:15...then camera man almost gets shot and the action starts....pretty lame video...but that day was pretty intense....mortars were fired, couple of hellfires, we had 1 guy shot in the leg....supposedly 3 enemy WIA/KIA, engagement ranges were around 4-500m or more. around the 5min mark is the next day, lame stuff i know but interesting though, right?

i usually dont get filmed upclose cuz i refused to wear eyepro and gloves and role my sleeves up at times, reason being eyepro fogs up during firefights and gloves sometimes get hung up on random **** and its hot and the army is gay..and since commanders watch these videos before they get released the camera man avoids filming me and no one likes being followed by the camera anyways....
anyways, the sounds in pr are pretty darn good IMO but things can always be better....
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nicoX
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Post by nicoX »

I agree, the sound should have been a high priority long time ago, but I'm glad something is done about it.
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Post by DankE_SPB »

I agree, the sound should have been a high priority long time ago
So you say current sounds are bad? :roll:
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Weren't we complimented last week on how good our bullet sounds were? (flyby and "crack")

Anyways, compare PR's sounds with BF2's and notice the difference - much more intense. Don't know since when you're playing PR, but compare the sounds from let's say 0.4 to 0.9 and notice the difference.

I'm not saying it's perfect, lots can be improved still, but seriously, we've come a long way already. And this recording trip is, I hope, just the first of a series :D .

Here's some sound samples (mostly US weapons, so you get a better idea of the changes):
0.25: YouTube - Project Reality Mini-Mod v0.25 Trailer - HD
0.4: YouTube - Project Reality 0.4 voip teamplay action
0.5: YouTube - Project Reality 0.5 Coop - City District LAN - HD
0.6: YouTube - Project Reality 0.6 Video "OFICIAL"
0.7: YouTube - Battlefield Project Reality 0.7 gameplay bf2.lt serveryje
0.8: YouTube - Project Reality 0.8 Gameplay
0.9: YouTube - PR v0.9 Qwai River - US Infantry Part 1 of 2

Well, you get the idea ;) .
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PR sounds better than arma series or vbs series default sounds thats for sure.
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Post by sylent/shooter »

I would gladly donate for you guys to come record some sounds in the US and Canada :D Would be awesome :D Anyways, great job with the sounds currently, As we all know it isn't perfect, (many things can't be completely perfected) But I think you guys will eventually figure out a way to do these different sounds and make them work in the Bf2 engine. If not hopefully if PR2 comes out that will have amazing sounds. :)

Edit: For everyone thinking that the sounds could be better, look at the difference between BF:BC2 which uses a dynamic sound engine (?) and Bf2 which doesn't. For being a 5 year old game Bf2 is still pretty awesome and the way the sound operates WON'T be completely realistic as it is close to in Bf:BC2. Just my two sense

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Ok, I'm only going to say this one more time... I still have the CD's that PR purchased thanks to member donations. WE payed like 500 Euros for the damn things. I know that a lot of the sounds we originally used came from those CD's. It is ALL small arms, vehicle noises and such.
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obZen
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Post by obZen »

Well I wasn't being fair, the bullet sounds in PR are good, better than any other video game I've ever heard...Just they are a little lacking...

It's just like I said when I fired in real life I was amazed by the echo and doppler sound of the bullet traveling, it was far more intense and louder than the actual sound of firing the bullet.

I know it's hard to get the sounds from videos, but I can assure you that the first video is as very close to the real thing.
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Post by JONES »

I get your point man, the pr sounds are realy good thought is it possible to add the doppler/echo effect to the sounds?

So when you fire your rifle you actualy here the echo at the end, would make a big difference, when you played bfbc2 on "wartapes" mode you know what i mean, thought this have to be done right to avoid hurting ears at the end of the game :)
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The problem is that the echo you get differs greatly depending on your surroundings.
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spawncaptain wrote:The problem is that the echo you get differs greatly depending on your surroundings.
Yeah i know, thought if you want different sounds on different enviroment you might get disapointed, because you would have to do hundreds of sounds for one single weapon which wont happen, more likley one indoor and one outdoor sound for each weapon is enough for a game :D
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Lucan
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Post by Lucan »

Booyak wrote:PR sounds better than arma series or vbs series default sounds thats for sure.
That's kind of like saying oral sex is better than being disemboweled. It's a pretty obvious statement.
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Lucan wrote:That's kind of like saying oral sex is better than being disemboweled. It's a pretty obvious statement.
lmfao!! good one.. :grin: personally i think the current gun sounds are fine maybe a little more improvement but hey..
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Post by GeorgRavioli »

I personally think they could be a little bit louder and have a greater echo, but the bullet hit and near hit sounds are great. I'm glad however that something is being done about the sounds.
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