Revising the AAM/ Countermeasure Dynamics

[Death_dx]

Didn't the small arms get their effective ranges halved to allow breathing room for snipers/marksmen an update back. I assumed the rest of the weapons would recieve similiar adjustments or has this been reverted?

[Celestial1]

Didn't the small arms get their effective ranges halved to allow breathing room for snipers/marksmen an update back. I assumed the rest of the weapons would recieve similiar adjustments or has this been reverted?

Small arms have pretty much consistently had a max effective range of 300m. I believe that it was sniper/marksman were given a higher max effective range (marksman for sure, don't remember how long sniper has had that range).

[mangeface]

I'm not too bad with AA. I've gotten some pretty good kills. I'm just not thrilled about the whole "The Chinook is bigger, so it gets more HP". I know the Devs have MAs, but as an aircraft mech it just annoys me, because I personally know all of the helicopters (BLUFOR wise, pretty sure on OPFOR) are made of metal. The same kinds of metal. So a Chinook should be easier to shoot down than a LB. Just one of the things that annoys me when I grab an SA-7 on Operation Archer and score a direct hit in a Chinooks *** and it doesn't even limp away.

[Teek]

I'm not too bad with AA. I've gotten some pretty good kills. I'm just not thrilled about the whole "The Chinook is bigger, so it gets more HP". I know the Devs have MAs, but as an aircraft mech it just annoys me, because I personally know all of the helicopters (BLUFOR wise, pretty sure on OPFOR) are made of metal. The same kinds of metal. So a Chinook should be easier to shoot down than a LB. Just one of the things that annoys me when I grab an SA-7 on Operation Archer and score a direct hit in a Chinooks *** and it doesn't even limp away.

In your professional opinion as an Aircraft Mech, what damage would a chinook take if a missle struck the middle and underside of said helocopter's cargo hold? How would it compare to the same missle striking a LB?

[mangeface]

In your professional opinion as an Aircraft Mech, what damage would a chinook take if a missle struck the middle and underside of said helocopter's cargo hold? How would it compare to the same missle striking a LB?

If a missle struck the middle of a Chinook I would say it's going down like any other aircraft.

I'm not fimiliar with the Chinook, but I know if it got hit in the middle, the biggest concern is that the missle could (and probably would) pierce through the aircraft and destroy the driveshaft that syncs the rotor heads. Without the blades spinning together as they should with the driveshaft, they'd hit each other and break into pieces. Not to mention that the missle would destoy hydraulic lines causing the systems to deplete, loosing the flight controls and the ability to manuever the aircraft after a very short period. Wiring harnesses would be schredded. The airframe could split if there is significant damage to it.

Look back into the 2 MH-47s of the 160th SOAR that got shot down in Afghanistan while dropping a SEAL teams onto a mountain. It was hit with an RPG, and sustained so much damage it couldn't be flown to base. And that's you're basic, run of the line RPG, not a SA-7 that's designed to schrapnel to cause massive damage to aircraft like I described.

During Operation Anaconda, March 2002, 2 SOAR MH-47s were shot down whilst inserting SOF units onto mountain LZs in the Takur Ghar valley. Razor 3 was forced to abort an insertion of SEALs when it came under heavy ground fire. During the abort, a SEAL fell out of the Chinook. Razor 3 undertook a controlled crash after which the SEALs attempted to rescue their comrade, sadly without luck. Razor 3's crew were extracted by Razor 4. A quick Reaction Force of 2 SOAR MH-47s (Razor 1 and Razor 2), carrying Rangers, responding to the initial incident, came under attack. Razor 1 was hit by an RPG as it was inserting the Rangers. An intense firefight ensued, with the American forces eventually victorious.

160th SOAR - Operations
Eyewitness to Spec Ops Tragedy in Afghanistan Sets the Record Straight

[Expatriate Gamer]

HEAR ME OUT:

IMO I think Stationary AA is fine, however I think Air to Air Missles need to be slightly nerfed.