Poor performance (yet another thread)

[Pill Monster]

What are you guys talking about?
His graphics card is fine.

Buying a new GPU isn't going to help choke.
If you do not know what choke is, it's the CPU/RAM/HDD talking to each other trying to sort something out. So the GPU doesn't get the Information it need to do a good job.

Therefore bad performance.
Simply replacing who is getting choked isn't the solution is it?

The solution is finding out who is causing the problem.
It's probably not his CPU, We know it's probably his RAM.
But in the end it's BF2 that is causing it.

Extra tip:

When you put in the command line to show fps in bf2, the second number is how much choke you're getting.
That is why you ether have a high number on one side and a low on the other or vis versa.

BTW it's :renderer.drawfps1

You cannot find an even amount of choke and FPS.
That would be quite dumb to want in the first place.

But finding out how much choke you are getting you can tell if it's you're GPU or not.

Since I have the 9800GT 512MB, I can run every map on high. ( note read other post for my problem).
He is getting choke.

Again - you have no idea what you're talking about.

Guys like you really annoy me.

[NuclearBanane]

Dude, what are you talking about? Of course it can use more than 2GB as it's been Large Address Aware since 1.5.

The rest of what you said doesn't even make sense...memory just doesn't work that way.

And you really need to get rid of that PF, your HDD is probably fragmented to pieces and a 14BG PF is just nuts. You don't even need one at all...

And NO his graphics card is NOT fine. and

You need to stop giving people bad advice on things you clearly know nothing about

the 8800 gts is a great card. Might be out date now but it's well within the recommend specs.

If you didn't read my other post you'd know that i said that it is suppose to use 4 gb but it's not.

The PF was just because i have extra space on my HDD with nothing to use it with. i know it's over kill.

I have defragmented my hard drive.

And i know what i said is my " Hypothesis " Didn't make sense but what else will explain it?

So then Mr.IT , How does it work?


And how am i wrong about choke?

EDIT: if you didn't notice i was writing to the original poster, not about 9100.
the 9100 won't let you run PR well

[Pill Monster]

You're talking pure drivel.

Guys like you really annoy me.

I already told him what the problem is, but no - there is always someone like you on a forum who thinks they're a "computer expert" and has to argue the point.. ..filling people's heads with rubbish.

If you even had a clue I wouldn't be concerned, but it does concern me because I have to ask myself why you would even bother trying posting advice as you have nothing helpful to say while arguing with an MCSE / A+ Tech.


This poor guy is trying to get help and you want to confuse him. How is he meant to learn that way?

[NuclearBanane]

You're talking pure drivel.

Guys like you really annoy me.

I already told him what the problem is, but no - there is always someone like you on a forum who thinks they're a "computer expert" and has to argue the point.. ..filling people's heads with rubbish.

If you even had a clue I wouldn't be concerned, but it does concern me because I have to ask myself why you would even bother trying posting advice as you have nothing helpful to say while arguing with an MCSE / A+ Tech.


This poor guy is trying to get help and you want to confuse him. How is he meant to learn that way?

There is 3 people here looking for help.
Whatshisname
Me
AXEL

One of the R-DEV gave advise to defrag.
And make a bigger swap file.

I did defrag and made a bigger swap file ( PF ). ( And Beleave me i know the PF size is crazy. i just made it that big for the lol TBH. And i should put it back to it's normal size )

I'm not arguing the whats his names GPU is the problem. I forgot at one point in the convo that he also had a problem different from the original poster who has a good GPU.

And i made a mistake. See who ever posted the GPU link, i though was sending it to axel.
And not to whatshisname.

Whatshisname isn't having a choke problem, because it's his GPU that isn't good enough.
Mybad i lost track of the convo.

And TBH i know it didn't make sense because i remember reading that 1.5 let us use more then 2 GB.

But what I'm reporting as a problem is it's not. and wants to use a PF or ask the HDD to get what it wants.
Witch is creating " Choke " Still following?

So why is PR lagging?
No one, nothing logical has explained this to me.
And it seems I'm having the same problem as axe but axe isn't responding past his first post.

So For Whatshisname, your advise was right. But for me and axe it's not the case.

EDIT: WhatsHisName sorry for confusing you. You confused me. Are specs aren't the same and we have different problems. Pill Monster is right about you're case. it's imply you're GPU.

[whatshisname55]

Ok then, sorry for extending the confusion to everyone
Thank you for solving my problem at least.

[NuclearBanane]

Ok then, sorry for extending the confusion to everyone
Thank you for solving my problem at least.

Not your fault. Anyways hope you can find something to help you're lag problem.

[Pill Monster]

OK,...excuse my outburst - seems maybe we were all not on the same page....

[NuclearBanane]

So getting back on track.

Any body have any ideas on what could be the problem?
I mean it's a weird problem and i'm not buying a new PC til i know what is the problem.

Any clues?
Tips?
Hypothesis?

[samthegreat4]

Hey Guys,

I have some low performance trouble too, BUT over here it is map specific.
Like for example on the map Asad Khal my FPS doesn't go lower than 80.
And that's with everything high except text. filtering, and the viewdistance on 98.
On other maps though, like Kozelsk on some places, Gaza Beach pretty much in the city everywhere, Yamalia when I zoom in at the grassfields, Fallujah West (which is the worst btw, FPS doesnt go higher than 30/40 FPS, and that's really the max), Korengal, Karbala (superhuge framedrop at the tower-static in the middle of the grassfield), it's really not quite normal.

For I have a Phenom 2 x4 920 @3.0 Ghz
ATI HD 4870 512 MB
4 GB of DDR2 RAM
3 HDD's: 1 TB - 500 GB - 300 GB
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2

It should really not have any, and I mean it when I say any, because even Crysis on very high gives me better FPS, trouble with PR. I think it's just poor optimization on the engine.

[SocketMan]

Why would it use page file if i still have another 3 gb?

Because windows always uses the page file,no matter how much ram.
Disabling the PF won't help, there will still be a page file created when you start the PC.
When you drive to a store - you still need your legs to get in.
Not the best example, but you get the idea.

Lol wow, I have practically the same problem, same OS, 6 GB RAM.
I just thought it was because I have an integrated Geforce 9100, but this makes me think that might not be the problem.

That is a bit of a problem.

Extra tip:

When you put in the command line to show fps in bf2, the second number is how much choke you're getting.
That is why you ether have a high number on one side and a low on the other or vis versa.

BTW it's :renderer.drawfps1

You cannot find an even amount of choke and FPS.
That would be quite dumb to want in the first place.

But finding out how much choke you are getting you can tell if it's you're GPU or not.

Since I have the 9800GT 512MB, I can run every map on high. ( note read other post for my problem).
He is getting choke.

The second number is the time (in ms) between the frames,the first one is
frames per second (obviously)
More time (higher second number) between the frames=low fps
less time between the frames=more fps

Hey Guys,

I have some low performance trouble too, BUT over here it is map specific.
Like for example on the map Asad Khal my FPS doesn't go lower than 80.
And that's with everything high except text. filtering, and the viewdistance on 98.
On other maps though, like Kozelsk on some places, Gaza Beach pretty much in the city everywhere, Yamalia when I zoom in at the grassfields, Fallujah West (which is the worst btw, FPS doesnt go higher than 30/40 FPS, and that's really the max), Korengal, Karbala (superhuge framedrop at the tower-static in the middle of the grassfield), it's really not quite normal.

For I have a Phenom 2 x4 920 @3.0 Ghz
ATI HD 4870 512 MB
4 GB of DDR2 RAM
3 HDD's: 1 TB - 500 GB - 300 GB
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2

It should really not have any, and I mean it when I say any, because even Crysis on very high gives me better FPS, trouble with PR. I think it's just poor optimization on the engine.

Smaller desert maps (generally speaking) run faster then the bigger ones (with lots of greenery).The bf2 engine was made for tiny maps,it's almost a miracle
(and of course a LOT of work by the PR team) that anything bigger then strike at karkand can run at all.