Vehicle Warfare mode could/should be more popular

[Zoddom]

Hi,
I jsut played my first VW round in my life. we were 50 players and the round was over pretty fast.
because our team just didnt know what to do. most of the squads directly went to the enemies flag hoping to be able to intercept them.
Soon I noticed that there is no ticket loss by dying, so the only way to win is (MISTAKE IN MODE DESCRIPION: it says primary objective would be to kill the enemy) to take the flags. But most of the players didnt seem to have understood what the objective was, so we werent able to cap the first flag cause somehow, 4 poeple arent enough to cap one in this mode.
please serveradmins: run VW mode more often, its a lot of fun if you play as a team and imo its far more teamwork-based and harder then AAS. its a great mode which just isnt getting enough attention.


discuss

[Skull]

i understand why you could like vehicle warfare, but at the current situation - and ofc if both teams at least partly know what theyre doing - vehicle warfare can end in a stalemate too fast. in aas at least the first half of the map the flags are changing, fobs being built at other places, the situation changes in a lot of ways. in vehicle warfare pretty much nothing happens. there are no fobs, no assets that bring variety (example: which attack chopper wins the air fight on kashan and can then support the team), its all about attacking the same flag again and again being in the mostly same situation, the only change that happens is the terrain.
and that is the reason why i hate vehicle warfare....

[goguapsy]

+ It depends on what you like! I love being Infantry Of course tanking is fun, but you know what I mean, right?

[Hunt3r]

Vehicle Warfare needs more vehicles then just tanks. Preferably, there should be semi-realistic armor platoons. US Army will appear with Bradleys, TOW Humvees, Apaches, Avengers, M1A2s, etc, with enough vehicles for the entire team. Same deal with MEC, just with Gaskins, BMP3s, Spandrels, Havocs, T-72s, and all the jolly great stuff. Both sides should get around 600 tickets, with vehicles costing no tickets when destroyed, but each person killed/suicided will cost 1 ticket. Only allow people to spawn with a pilot or crewman kit.

The goal here is to make truly EPIC armor engagements, like it's the Cold War gone hot. Missiles and shells like the world is ending. There should only be 3 flags, with the "center" flag having a radius of something like 500 meters so as to make it so that you don't have to overtly reveal yourselves to cap.

[Jorgee!]

Vehicle warfare is a little bit bugged.........

YOu take flags in 3 seconds.

[crot]

I know right, I only stumbled upon VW mode ONCE, its almost like its non existent.

[Hunt3r]

Yeah, flags are basically a good way to ensure heavy casualties and basically means you either have the choice of being a sitting duck or keeping reasonable force levels.

[Wh33lman]

Hi,
I jsut played my first VW round in my life. we were 50 players and the round was over pretty fast.
because our team just didnt know what to do. most of the squads directly went to the enemies flag hoping to be able to intercept them.
Soon I noticed that there is no ticket loss by dying, so the only way to win is (MISTAKE IN MODE DESCRIPION: it says primary objective would be to kill the enemy) to take the flags. But most of the players didnt seem to have understood what the objective was, so we werent able to cap the first flag cause somehow, 4 poeple arent enough to cap one in this mode.
please serveradmins: run VW mode more often, its a lot of fun if you play as a team and imo its far more teamwork-based and harder then AAS. its a great mode which just isnt getting enough attention.


discuss

ok
1. where the hell did you play VW? i keep trying to seed servers and nobody shows.
2. you can indeed take the flags with only one person, you probably had enemy armor in the area.
3. most people dont really know how to use armor effectively(as is being discussed in another thread), especially in VW.

i think only one thing should be added, and thats scout helicopters. you would have to be insane to try and take on any armor with one(although im sure some people will try), and used properly, it would eliminate people wandering around looking for other tanks.

[Jorgee!]

Is very shitty the way the flags can be taken......

You almost can't see the flag going down so you can call reinforcements...... you take flags just by passing the area and without stopping.

[Rudd]

Vehicle warfare is a little bit bugged.........

YOu take flags in 3 seconds.

I always thought that was a feature

don't wanna sit stationary in a tank for 3 minutes waiting for a cap, wanna keep moving!!!

VW is a nice change of pace, though I prefer it as a quick 30min round to break up the other modes

[NoobSentinel]

VW is not popular, or people just don'T know it.
Same with Command&Control. As the manual says, it can be very exciting and teamwork based, but no servers are rnning this mode. Maybe some PW nights on TG.

[Brainlaag]

I always thought that was a feature

don't wanna sit stationary in a tank for 3 minutes waiting for a cap, wanna keep moving!!!

VW is a nice change of pace, though I prefer it as a quick 30min round to break up the other modes

Totally agree with you Rudd, although it could be played A BIT more often.

[Alex6714]

I think the problem with vehicle warfare is that it is infact really tank warfare.

[badmojo420]

I still stand by my suggestion to replace the tanks in VW mode with the coop (vbf2 style drive and gun by yourself) versions.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... -mode.html

I would understand NOT doing this, if there was a large community of VW mode supporters, but honestly it's hard to find ANY populated servers running VW mode. And the only things you ever hear about it here on the fourms, is people complaining it doesn't get played enough. Yet there are servers dedicated to VW mode, so I tend to believe the general consensus from the PR community is that it's just not that much fun to play for any extended period of time. So why not try something drastic? It's sure to improve the fun factor if you double the number of tanks and let people have their own. Anyway, /rant

[Hunt3r]

I would be in favor of having one man tanks, with more variety in vehicles. At the very least, add in IFVs and wheeled TOW equipped vehicles like the TOW Humvee and the Spandrel. This would allow people to do something like using Bradleys or TOW Humvees to do recon for the tank, and then call in the Abrams and kill them for good.

[Rudd]

I would be in favor of having one man tanks

I can confidently say, not gonna happen.

the only vehicle I've ever thought had a valid reason to be a on man vehicle is the anti air vehicles, but PR is about teamwork even if its between only two people.

mixing APCs/IFVs in is probably a logical next step.

[Hunt3r]

mixing APCs/IFVs in is probably a logical next step.

IMO we should probably just outfit each team with the proper ratio and the right vehicles that would be used in an armor battalion or company. A sprinkling of TOW Humvees and equivalents, IFVs, and MBTs.

Also, the cap radius needs to be larger, and in areas where there's more cover for tanks.

[badmojo420]

Rudd, I doubt removing the gunner position would eliminate all teamwork from vehicle warfare mode.

Why not add in a dedicated commander position?(for VW mode) Bump the tank up to 3 people, if inner-vehicle teamwork is such a huge part of the game mode. 10 tanks instead of 16 isn't a big difference. Yet, I still think people wouldn't like it, because the commander position has all the fun, while the other two just obey his commands.

[Titan]

This would allow people to do something like using Bradleys or TOW Humvees to do recon for the tank, and then call in the Abrams and kill them for good.

calling in the Tanks? ... no time! i am busy killing the enemy on my own with my TOW...

... as long as the pupp sees any chance to score the kill there will be no teamwork....

only if he cant do anything he will call in bigger guns... and afterwards come to this forum and complain about not having enough firepower on his own ...

[Hunt3r]

calling in the Tanks? ... no time! i am busy killing the enemy on my own with my TOW...

... as long as the pupp sees any chance to score the kill there will be no teamwork....

only if he cant do anything he will call in bigger guns... and afterwards come to this forum and complain about not having enough firepower on his own ...

The pup can only damage one tank. It'll take at least two Bradleys or an Abrams to take out 2-3 T-72s.

Assuming you're playing it right.