Euro Mumble Gaming server

[myles]

Stop Fussing everyone!
No fuss 1 channel system, except squad leaders in 1 and 2

This one of the main reasons i pick TG over UKWF

[Saarna]

This one of the main reasons i pick TG over UKWF

Same here, especially when the squad leaders don't even join their respective channels just to be able to hear the enemy. In a worst case scenario - and I've experienced a couple - a full single channel Mumble server can lead to even worse teamplay than without Mumble altogether, since text chat usage tends to go way down with everyone technically on voice comms with each other, even if those comms aren't being used for anything coherent.

[armed Jester]

will give it a chance, like clan/community based server.


btw. if this community is build to play ArmA PR in future, y r u still discuss mumble?
one n only communikation-tool in ArmA is acre.

[dunem666]

what is wrong with everyone?

The whole point of PR is that its a realism mod, what the freekin point if you cant see or talk to enemies?

Deffinatly the ORIGINAL good old way of 1 channel , 2 for sqls

[MikeDude]

Same here, especially when the squad leaders don't even join their respective channels just to be able to hear the enemy. In a worst case scenario - and I've experienced a couple - a full single channel Mumble server can lead to even worse teamplay than without Mumble altogether, since text chat usage tends to go way down with everyone technically on voice comms with each other, even if those comms aren't being used for anything coherent.

You can still hear the enemy while you are in a SL channel....

btw. if this community is build to play ArmA PR in future, y r u still discuss mumble?
one n only communikation-tool in ArmA is acre.

What do you mean... If I think that I know what you mean.. NO
PR will always be on bf2. but it will ALSO be on ARMA2.

[Tartantyco]

what is wrong with everyone?

The whole point of PR is that its a realism mod, what the freekin point if you cant see or talk to enemies?

Deffinatly the ORIGINAL good old way of 1 channel , 2 for sqls

/facepalm

1 CHANNEL ISN'T REALISTIC!
You can't hear people through a mountain in real life, you can't hear people whispering 50m away in real life, 1 channel isn't realistic.

Neither option is realistic, but 2 channels actually makes use of mumble, as opposed to 1 channel which is just a spamfest.

Getting so tired of the 'herp a derp it's realistic' people...

[Rudd]

Gentlemen, this is not the place to discuss teh benefits or penalties of the 1 chan 2 chan system, there have been numerous threads.

This is about a Euro mumble gaming server, while the 1 chan 2 chan system is relevant here the discussion of which is best is best left out of the thread.

don't make the MODs come in here...

[Tim270]

The whole point of PR is that its a realism mod, what the freekin point if you cant see or talk to enemies?

A few points.

- A one channel system is not realistic at all, not saying 2 channel is like a simulation, but it is a lot more realistic in its use than 1 channel. The voice volume/distance is not really relative to real-life at all. There are really hardly any ambient sounds that would drown out so much of actual speech. I cant say I follow the logic of your statement, ''Pr is a realism mod - so you should be able to talk to enemies?'' I dont think so.

-In my experience it leads to much more childish behaviour. Teabagging and other 'vanilla traits' are amplified by the use of 1 channel.

-1 Channel system actually impairs teamwork. If I have enemies near me, Im not going to start reporting them to friendlies - giving away our position easily. Thus the program is useless and actually punishes people who are trying to teamwork. Using mumble should never put you at a disadvantage.

[Silly_Savage]

A few points.

- A one channel system is not realistic at all, not saying 2 channel is like a simulation, but it is a lot more realistic in its use than 1 channel. The voice volume/distance is not really relative to real-life at all. There are really hardly any ambient sounds that would drown out so much of actual speech. I cant say I follow the logic of your statement, ''Pr is a realism mod - so you should be able to talk to enemies?'' I dont think so.

-In my experience it leads to much more childish behaviour. Teabagging and other 'vanilla traits' are amplified by the use of 1 channel.

-1 Channel system actually impairs teamwork. If I have enemies near me, Im not going to start reporting them to friendlies - giving away our position easily. Thus the program is useless and actually punishes people who are trying to teamwork. Using mumble should never put you at a disadvantage.

This man is a Mumble Jesus, listen to him.

[PLODDITHANLEY]

As Rudd says this isn't the place for the one/two channels debate, we've all gone over it soooo many times, If Dunem/UKWF want a one channel system it's their choice.
The only relevant thread would be a vote here or on the UKWF site or better still both as to which is preffered.

[cyberzomby]

Wont it be an idea to make an official PR server that is run by a few community's clans? That way it has the draw people in power from the name and the fact that its how PR is meant to be played there. With Official I mean a place where you have a high chance to meet the R-DEV's and the likes. The server is from the dev's but is run and managed by a council sort of structure.

[Rhino]

Wont it be an idea to make an official PR server that is run by a few community's clans? That way it has the draw people in power from the name and the fact that its how PR is meant to be played there. With Official I mean a place where you have a high chance to meet the R-DEV's and the likes. The server is from the dev's but is run and managed by a council sort of structure.

No, we already have a "Dev kill house" server (thou its NA) and we hardly get time to run it because we are busy doing other stuff. Having it run by clans and not us would defeat the point of an official server.

We could maybe look into bringing someone on to run an official server or a few but we have enough on our hands to start worrying about that. Its really upto the community to sort out good servers tbh

[otom24]

wicca thx for your request on our mumble if [KSK] wants to take part on this Euro Mumble Gaming Server. We started a poll about it, the result will be posted here next week friday 1.10.2010.

Is somewhere a up-to-date list of clans who participate?

[Rudd]

No, we already have a "Dev kill house" server (thou its NA) and we hardly get time to run it because we are busy doing other stuff. Having it run by clans and not us would defeat the point of an official server.

We could maybe look into bringing someone on to run an official server or a few but we have enough on our hands to start worrying about that. Its really upto the community to sort out good servers tbh

its certainly something to think about

brining on server moderators as R-COMs would probably work well.

[Wicca]

Ill pm all the Clan leads, then we have a meeting mate. Otom

[cyberzomby]

No, we already have a "Dev kill house" server (thou its NA) and we hardly get time to run it because we are busy doing other stuff. Having it run by clans and not us would defeat the point of an official server.

We could maybe look into bringing someone on to run an official server or a few but we have enough on our hands to start worrying about that. Its really upto the community to sort out good servers tbh

Thats what I was saying. Might be the language barrier or my lack of skills for typing my thoughts. Get an "official" server that is ran by clans or a few admins.

EDIT:
Or as Rudd is putting it, R-COM's. But that way you have a place where everyone knows PR is played like you guys intend it. An R-DEV or two (or more) can set up a set of guidelines for the admins to follow. Other servers can look up to "your" server as to get a set of rules or ways to "enforce" those rules. Or look at how those play out and what fine teamwork there is on the server (hopefully )

By naming it official PR server or R-DEV server or what ever people expect the true PR experience there since its you guys who are behind it. It could also give you guys some control over the community trough setting a good example. Say theres a new program out that you guys would love being used with PR, start off the hype by being an early adopter with the official server for example.

[Wicca]

Ok ive sent the PMs, if someone wants to help out the meeting will take place on the PRTA TS 3 server. Monday the 27th of September 1900 PRT/GMT.

We will discuss alot more than just the Euro mumble server.

// Wicca out

[xambone]

TG is paying DEV members to keep it that way. Fight the Sistem! use AIM and MSN during gameplay TEXTING IS REAL LIFE !!! lol jk,

Im a member of the HOG Muttrah 24/7 community and I have repeatedly asked our clan leader to get intouch with "Epoch" about setting up a HOG channel on the mumble server and they do not respond to Pm's anymore. I dont spass out, I asked politely and waited. It has been 4-6 weeks waiting on this. They Fact the Epoch and Linkman(Hog clan leader) cant talk has Killed this movement. I had 23 guys download Mumble pr edition and we used empty channels to set up and test and joined empty channels only to have a kid come in and talk to everyone and made half leave. I dont understand why Epoch is so protective when 80% of the channels are empty and all I am asking for is kick/move rights to keep Muble PR Edition going. Its a great program but red tape by Epoch and Linkman(hog clan leader) have kept anything from going. I Know Epoch is doing the right thing by holding off with this but after 3 more PM's he doesnt even respond? WTF talk about killing the excitement. I hope the admin that reads this will simply state, "xambone we will work with you to encourage teamplay and build up a more versitile community asap, here is my AIM screen name or a vent channel or meet me on mumble blah blah blah.... " But im sure Rhino will just delete, OR move omg please dont move my post again

I am 2 steps away from getting this going for 64 people and im help back by a failed program. Seriously after looking at Pr edition mumble its clear its not working. I am sorry, to Epoch for lashing out at him in public but it has gotten to the point where its not proving to effective to go thru the channels anymore???

please help

Now after finding out that an a HOG member with admin rights can post to set up a channel, I asked the guy who would help and he said, "Mumble is a waste of time, the (PR forums) isn't going to help us at all, it is just a lost cause."

Thanks alot, I put in all the effort to get this started then the key person i need from our end backs out after 4 pm's and playing the waiting game.

IS THERE ANYONE (Rhino or someone) who can help me set the channel up today? I will be on PR mumble in the help channel please let us stop this phone tag so i can move on to getting guys online.

[MikeDude]

Does HOG have admins? o.O
I am surprised!!
Thought they were a myth?

[The Iron Dreamer]

Bump... We dont what this falling into the PR Forums abyss now do we?