Which side do you prefer on Insurgency?

[SpungE]

Armor outrages accurate rpgs significantly. Good armor will keep its distance acting as fire support and keeping it's optics advantage. It will never come close enough to be IED'd, and it will avoid mines no matter how well 'hidden'.

[=SCaitan=]

BLUFOR all the way. My aiming on none-scoped weapons is too bad.

When I happen to join INSUR I always go for the BLUFOR-kit. What I hate more than ironsights is people switching teams because of it.

[JohnnyTheIED]

Armor outrages accurate rpgs significantly. Good armor will keep its distance acting as fire support and keeping it's optics advantage. It will never come close enough to be IED'd, and it will avoid mines no matter how well 'hidden'.

Spoken like a true greener

If you can avoid every rocks on the road, good for you but eventually you shall hit my mines if you wanna get in range of the action

As for my IEDs, You definitely have no clue where its going to be. You always have to take a choice as to what route to take to get to the support position, and thats precisely were I shall be waiting with ARTY IEDs to hit you. Good insurgents know their map well, and they know the traffic roads.

Not every maps are made like Basrah, so what you just said about staying far away with armor definitely doesnt apply. Of course on Basrah you can stay 1km away and just blast a few people inside city or a few desert buildings.

But on maps like Fallujah and Gaza, boy are you doomed to run into ambush LOL

[quaazi]

Yeah, balance is all essentialy a map problem. Fallujah is beautiful. Armour can (try to) rape the ins in the fields north and east of their base, but ins has a good chance of closing in and tsaking that armour down. Gaza has easy spots for the armour to rape from, but can do little actual damage, and in my experience, gets shot to hell when they enter the city. Ramiel has lighter assets in the first place, and strykers need to either move fast or stay away. Karbala... fuck karbala. Basrah is all about where the caches go in the first place. If they're inside the city/on the islands, tough luck for the blufor. If they're outside the city/in village, BOOM cache gone in a minute.

Every map needs to address that balance personally. Karbala could REALLY use more bombcars, because that's the only realistic way to combat armour there. Basrah needs to either stop putting caches in retarded places like in the middle of fields, or make those fields harder to traverse somehow. Fallujah/Gaza are good (though hell, can't you change the fallujah dome of death time to a little longer? I'm not even going in to the problem that the dome of death is literally the worst thing in the game, I'm just asking that it doesn't bleed an ins in like 3 seconds, which is especially terrible if you're crawling in fields somewhere and have a standard, field dressingless kit). And on Ramiel, Blufor assets tend to be too fragile in the first place.

[***LeGeND K1LLER***]

voted for opf emmm talibans/russians.the good guys

[KingKong.CCCP]

I stopped playing on insurgent side somewhere around 1 or 2 years ago.
The last time I played as ins, I remember being in squad with bjoffe, defending a cashe on Op Archer, on Tactical Gamer. We did a good job on preparing the defensive positions, so when US came (1 squad), we killed them all. 15mins after, 2 enemies came, and we killed them.
We waited for 1 hour. Nothing happened.
Nothing.
That is not fun at all.

Today, on a poor server with lots of BC2 type of players being on ins side is fun only for new players. But last few days, we had amazing fights on TG server. I remember Fallujah a week ago. US side was 100% into teamwork, proper squad communication, 90% players were on mumble, tanks and apcs did their best providing cover... we tried bulling them, we tried being sneaky ninjas, but we couldn't reach one cashe in the middle of the city. That is the first time I saw a determined insurgent team.

So, I started playing on ins side a week ago. Of course, only on Tactical Gamer server... cos you know - as soon as the cashe location is visible, blufor is coming. And they're coming hard, and we're gonna defend hard. That's why it doesn't matter any more on TG, both sides are fun.

But on any other server - I wouldn't play on ins side even if you payed me to do so.

[JohnnyTheIED]

I agree with King Kong, Insurgency has alot to do with the server youre playing on.

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As for the caches on Basrah, Yes I agree that when a cache spawns in the slums village, outside of the city, it can go down pretty quickly, however if theres only 1 intel and the whole team works together, it can hold for quite a while. Plus, Dont forget that you actualy have 7 chances in a game to get a good cache and it only takes 1 or 2 good cache location to hold the entire game.

Ive seen bluefor getting raped continuously, even with good players. All you need is a dedicated and serious INS team.

The downside of it, it only takes 1 noob to give away an unknown cache. And that really sucks.

I think the only real problem on insurgent maps is the kit on cache system. Way too much often the noobs just start popin their RPGs or PKMs straight from the unknown cache. Giving away the cache in seconds.

This doesnt even give us enough time to go protect it before the area is saturated with bluefor.

[Nakata]

Either... No matter Insurgency is the better game mode.
BUT... IED rules

[SpungE]

But on maps like Fallujah and Gaza, boy are you doomed to run into ambush LOL

Fair enough I don't really armor on those maps.

[baptist_christian]

Which team do you prefer playing as on Insurgency maps and why?

Which side provides a more fun\memorable experience?


Cheers

Definitely the BLUFOR side. The spawning tools and specialty kits allotted to squads make squad cohesion way more important on the BLUFOR side than the insurgent side. Also the scopes and red dots on most rifles give far more kill potential to individual BLUFOR soldiers than individual insurgents. Makes sense in real life, but it is a lot less fun for insurgents. This is why I think its good that teh spawn times for insurgents are shorter than BLUFOR soldiers.

[JohnnyTheIED]

Definitely the BLUFOR side. The spawning tools and specialty kits allotted to squads make squad cohesion way more important on the BLUFOR side than the insurgent side. Also the scopes and red dots on most rifles give far more kill potential to individual BLUFOR soldiers than individual insurgents. Makes sense in real life, but it is a lot less fun for insurgents. This is why I think its good that teh spawn times for insurgents are shorter than BLUFOR soldiers.

Ya given all the new toys and armor the bluefor gets, I think their spawn time should be alot longer then insurgents. Especially with all the medics they get too!

[IEDExpert102]

1-Destroy Armors via IED, RPG and MINES.
2-Destroy Aircrafts via .50 and AA missile.
3-Concentrate on killing enemy, not defending cache. Having 7 caches wont make the BlueFor tickets hit 0. Killing assets and as many soldiers as possible will.
4-Stay away from the cache once you have what you need.
5-Ambush access roads to the cache.

Its funny to see so much frustration over things that normal run away from me and my boys when we play. lol.

When Johnny plays the Tank is sh**less scared of coming out. When a little bird flies around he is IMMEDIATLY chased by 2 technicals, and has to run away from the tracers.

When intel is received about a cache, 9 times outta 10 johnny is already waiting around with a multiple IED ambush.

Cheer up mate its really not that bad. Just gotta get a better team going. Also devlop your sense of strategy. Play your cards right. Bleed the enemy tickets. I cannot even remember how many games Weve won as insurgents, ending the round by shooting a chopper or a tank or stryker.

Oh jonny your blind optimism is so funny! Do you play much online on any pro servers? Or is it just raping the noobs on Fridays and Saterdays?

1. so funny, seeing as the tank/APC/LAV is sitting at least 300m away. IED, RPG and MINES might work if you have someone one-manning it. Then again i guess jonnny does have a point, INS should just rush in via bike/technical/crappy car, get out of the vehicle, setup the RPG (remember you'll need more than 1 RPG double warhead or not) and wait for it to stabilise / set the IED (remember you'll have to set more than 1 IED!) / set the mine and then wait 30 seconds for it to go active. So yeah, after about 10 to 35 seconds after you've rocked up and the armour's seen you can you expect to get some explosion, whether or not the armour is dead is still up for discussion. Gaza is about the only map where IED, RPG and MINES are effective. Fallujah (or Al Basrah) is debatable, BLUFOR armour can own 1/3rd (or 3/4) of the map without going into built up city areas where IED, RPG and MINES might work, they simply camp and do so with an exfil path back to main base where they can get repairs if you score a lucky RPG or suicide IED.

2. lmao. Rarely do I see a LB below ?200m (not sure about altitude, never fly, but basically you'll be lucky to see a faint outline flash by now and again). Of course noob pilots do actually hover around sitting still, flying low and slow and yes, jonny's absolutely right here, with noob pilots you can easily take them out as they sit still and wait to get killed. Of course over in pro world the LB pilot never hovers below 200m (good luck getting your two technicals main guns to elevate to that degree). The pilot simply marks the target area on his minimap with an attack marker and makes strafing runs hard and fast aiming for the 3D attack marker -> RTB for ammo -> repeat untill cache building hit and cache down from splash damage.

3. lost me on how that relates to TOWs spamming cache buildings and taking out cache.

4. genius. stay away from cache. tell that to 32 people who depend on accesing the cache to resupply ammo, topping up on SL field dressings, RPG, MINES, IEDs and topping up newly found BLUFOR kits. i think a virtual ticket system (like when you stand in line) is the answer.

5. how is standard ambush protocol going to fix the next cache immediately spawning (with alarming regularity) next to the previous cache location?

btw loven the "9 times outta 10 johnny is already waiting around with a multiple IED ambush" move - so awesome!

what do you do about the 2 guys you missed or the 2nd wave thats about 30 seconds behind and now know exactly where the party is?

[JohnnyTheIED]

Oh jonny your blind optimism is so funny! Do you play much online on any pro servers? Or is it just raping the noobs on Fridays and Saterdays?

I pretty much stopped giving serious attention after that, Everybody whos been around for a while knows The Johnny dont just mess around.

I DO take care of tanks and APCs on a serious basis, anybody playing alot of insurgency has seen me in action already. Ive been away for a few months since my MOBO crashed just before the summer. So Im guessing thats about the time youve been playing PR

P.S: And what the heck, Have you ever taken out 2 Merkavas, 1 m1117 and several squads in 1 IED Ambush?

I did. With 4 ARTY IEDs strategicly spreaded around, waiting for the massive enemy movement in attempt to break our front lines.

Gaza Beach. With all other entrances to city mined and well guarded by competent team. So let me just give you a big smile when you talk about blind optimism

[Johncro]

I pretty much stopped giving serious attention after that, Everybody whos been around for a while knows The Johnny dont just mess around.

I DO take care of tanks and APCs on a serious basis, anybody playing alot of insurgency has seen me in action already. Ive been away for a few months since my MOBO crashed just before the summer. So Im guessing thats about the time youve been playing PR

I've seen this guy play before, like a maybe 9-12 months ago..... He knows his shiznaz on INS.... Probably the best IEDer there is imo....

Cheers to you Johnny.... Fucking shit up for as long as I can remember.

[JohnnyTheIED]

I've seen this guy play before, like a maybe 9-12 months ago..... He knows his shiznaz on INS.... Probably the best IEDer there is imo....

Cheers to you Johnny.... Fucking shit up for as long as I can remember.

LOL, Thanks bro Looking forward to .95 with a new rig!!

[Johncro]

LOL, Thanks bro Looking forward to .95 with a new rig!!

Same here.... I assume is gonna be all INS for you

[JohnnyTheIED]

Same here.... I assume is gonna be all INS for you

With the new assets it should be alot of fun for sure, but Im not gonna miss out on all the cool stuff bluefor is getting. By the end before my rig died on me I was getting more and more used to bluefor gameplay.

But of course if its an insurgency map youre going to see me planting them IEDs or using those new SPG-9s and mortars Should be a thrill to take out those shiny new thermal imaging armors haha! More pain for them, more allahu akbars for us

[Johncro]

With the new assets it should be alot of fun for sure, but Im not gonna miss out on all the cool stuff bluefor is getting. By the end before my rig died on me I was getting more and more used to bluefor gameplay.

But of course if its an insurgency map youre going to see me planting them IEDs or using those new SPG-9s and mortars Should be a thrill to take out those shiny new thermal imaging armors haha! More pain for them, more allahu akbars for us

haha, I'll be sure to squad up with you when playing INS...

That way I'll know my team will win

[JohnnyTheIED]

haha, I'll be sure to squad up with you when playing INS...

That way I'll know my team will win

Were gonna make them cry with long range recoiless shots followed by mortar fire

Can you imagine the possibilities of ambushes and offensive now, No longuer will it be, ok everybody open fire after the first IED or RPG, now its everybody open fire after the first mortar hits the ground, lol.

Really cant wait to try that recoiless, its gonna be some epic stuff!

[Johncro]

Were gonna make them cry with long range recoiless shots followed by mortar fire

Can you imagine the possibilities of ambushes and offensive now, No longuer will it be, ok everybody open fire after the first IED or RPG, now its everybody open fire after the first mortar hits the ground, lol.

Really cant wait to try that recoiless, its gonna be some epic stuff!

I know.... Gonna be E P I C

I'm excited... today has been the best day by far