What are the advantages of TS3 over mumble?

[Cassius]

I admit I did not look much into VOIP programs. I am just happy to have any voip tool that is used by the people on the server I play on at large, because its practical, but also because people on that server are regulars and its nice you can talk to those who are not in your squad as well.

Now some people seem to prefer TS3 over mumble and one person made it very clear that he belives it is the better program in his opinion. On the surface I see that in mumble you can Radio to all the people in your channel, you can do that in TS 3 as well. In mumble you have positional audio, so that if you have 3 tanks in your squad, you have the option to have conversations where only the crewmembers of a vehicle can hear each other, rather than all of the squad. TS 3 can not do that. So that is 2 check for mumble and one check for TS3.

But like I said I did not look at TS3 in depth. What can TS3 do that makes it in your opinion better than mumble?

[darklord63]

Mumble is just awesome, that's why PR endorses it in BF2 PR as well as ARMA 2 PR. It's just really realistic and it also has great quality. If you don't have it yet download it. It takes 5 minutes and TG always uses it.

[Cassius]

I did download it I use it and I like it very much. On the server I play on it is used by almost everybody on the server during weekends, so the devs choice to endorse mumble turned out into goodness for me. Some people said they prefer TS over mumble. I was just wondering why they think TS is better as I just use such programs and did not look at them in depth..

[Tim270]

Well it is really a question of what you want to use the program for.

TS's whisper function is very useful when being in a clan battle as you can talk to every SL individually etc. I only use mumble when playing PR, but the rest of the time I will be in TS with people I want to talk to.

[drkstr]

You will never get the majority of the player base to use *any* third party tool, even if it wipes your bum and powders your balls.

[xambone]

I use vent and Mumble, Vent is helpful for obvious reason to talk to all pub players and mumble is great for talking to Lav gunner/ medic stuff like that.

[raw157]

I agree with drk. Some people are just lazy and don't like to worry about another process running, or don't want to start it with the game. It comes down to lazyness.

If I'm correct, mumble is a lighter app then TS3, in terms of process power.
From looking at my task manager...
TS3 uses: 21K of memory
Vent uses: 4 K
Mumble uses: 11k

Thats just one look, in terms of the system resources it uses. While all 3 do not use a ton over all, on slower machines a little can make a difference.

[Lzryde]

A lot of the features you get off the Mumble wiki are not in Project Reality's version of Mumble since it was compiled off Mumbles code based on what it was on June 30th 2009. As you can imagine, Mumble has changed quite a bit since then.

[LithiumFox]

they need to work on the PR.Exe allowing mumble to auto-force-epic-run and auto-force-epic-join

Then allow servers to script their joining based on teams using a database script between the new AD scripts and mumble, so that if servers have 2 channels it splits them properly, and if they have 1 channel.. well.. nothing happens.

:3

[Lzryde]

they need to work on the PR.Exe allowing mumble to auto-force-epic-run and auto-force-epic-join

Then allow servers to script their joining based on teams using a database script between the new AD scripts and mumble, so that if servers have 2 channels it splits them properly, and if they have 1 channel.. well.. nothing happens.

:3

I'd rather they worked on adding more awesome content than forcing some piece of software on us.

[Ford_Jam]

I'd rather they worked on adding more awesome content than forcing some piece of software on us.

I'd rather have solid, quality communication between as many players and assets as possible added as awesome content.

[Tartantyco]

Uhm, they're not comparable?

Mumble has positional audio and that is the reason why we use it. If it was just for basic VOIP then there's no real difference between TS, Vent, and Mumble. The impact Mumble has on PR is enormous, but sadly it won't become accepted by the mainstream unless servers actually take an active part in advertising it as it has little use unless a large portion of the server population uses it.

[Lzryde]

Uhm, they're not comparable?

Mumble has positional audio and that is the reason why we use it.

So does TS3.

If the devs put the same love into Teamspeak 3 as they did Mumble, you would have the same (or better) result.

[Tartantyco]

So does TS3.

If the devs put the same love into Teamspeak 3 as they did Mumble, you would have the same (or better) result.

No it doesn't, you can only assign other users to different positions surrounding you. So, lets say you and Hans are playing some Habbo Hotel; you can assign his audio to come from the left. Gruber then joins in and you assign his audio to come from the right. That's what it does, it's not positional audio, it's just stupid.

Mumble tracks the position of other users in relation to you and makes the audio come from their position.

[Ford_Jam]

I use both. Do I win?

BF2 voip, vent, mumble + SL channel, TS and BF2 commander voip is where it starts to get tricky

[Lzryde]

No it doesn't, you can only assign other users to different positions surrounding you. So, lets say you and Hans are playing some Habbo Hotel; you can assign his audio to come from the left. Gruber then joins in and you assign his audio to come from the right. That's what it does, it's not positional audio, it's just stupid.

Mumble tracks the position of other users in relation to you and makes the audio come from their position.

Teamspeak 3 does have positional audio. Not only is it stated on their main page, but ever heard of the ACRE addon for ARMA 2? Check out 0:50 of the video below.



YouTube - ARMA 2 - ShackTac - ACRE Testing

[-.-Maverick-.-]

There are no advantages you use both at the same time. I don't know why people are so stuborn sometimes.

When I play with my clan we get on TS3 and mumble, mumble isn't here to replace anything but tu enhance and add one more layer of communication.

[Lzryde]

There are no advantages you use both at the same time. I don't know why people are so stuborn sometimes.

When I play with my clan we get on TS3 and mumble, mumble isn't here to replace anything but tu enhance and add one more layer of communication.

Great point.

[Himalde]

Well it is really a question of what you want to use the program for.

TS's whisper function is very useful when being in a clan battle as you can talk to every SL individually etc. I only use mumble when playing PR, but the rest of the time I will be in TS with people I want to talk to.

Mumble (after 1.2.0 ) has a whisper system too. PR mumble is based on an older mumble version (1.1. without whispers.

Vanilla mumble 1.2.3 is soon out and is a huge improvement from 1.1.8.

[Kain888]

There are no advantages you use both at the same time. I don't know why people are so stuborn sometimes.

When I play with my clan we get on TS3 and mumble, mumble isn't here to replace anything but tu enhance and add one more layer of communication.

This.

You use both at same time. Each has different purpose. I never use in-game VoIP (except talking to Commander) because it sucks.