[0957] Lazing targets

[aQua_LV]

Is SL the only person in squad that can laze targets and call CAS/give firemissions for mortars?

I mean, if I'm a sniper and not SL, I got the GLTD, I can put laser mark on the target. But I have no menu available via "Q" or "T" to tell CAS what is needed or give firemissions for mortars.

Is it intended?
AFAIR, in 0917 sniper had the menu to call CAS (even if he wasn't SL)

[Tarranauha200]

You can call coord and put down laze, CAS will know what to do.

[aQua_LV]

You can call coord and put down laze, CAS will know what to do.

When I laze target no marker appear on the map.
So when CAS is on the other side of the map, I must manually type in team chat that I need CAS and give coords...

IF SL uses menu "I need CAS...", marker appears on the map. That's much more convinient both for the spotter and for the CAS.

That's what I mean... So now If I want to spot, laze and coord mortars - I must be SL...

[Elektro]

It's much easier for CAS if you explain it more detailed via team chat.

Instead of just placing a marker you can say:

Enemy T-72 in J-8 keypad 6 right outside the little village holding still. Keeping it lased. No AA visible but flare just to be sure.

This gives the pilot the information he needs:

What is the target? - A T-72
Where is the target exactly? J8 - keypad 6 outside the village.
Is it moving? No.
Is it Lased? Yes.
Is there AA in the area? Not probable but possible.

Although it takes longer to type this you will increase the chances of the mission going successfully and also gaining the pilots trust which will make him prioritise your laser targets higher than others who just place a marker.

Also remember to tell the pilot/s if you have relased the target. AFAIK lases hold ca.21 sec so if you know its going to take longer remember to relase every 15 sec or something similiar to keep the laser target alive.

Keep updating the pilot too, if an AAV moves into the area or the tank starts to move notify him and he will take the decision on wether too go for it or abort. Nothing is worse than the target getting away and losing the CAS assest at the same time.

[Mora]

Exactly, thats exactly how it is. If you do what Elektro just said here above you'll get cas.

[EnermaX]

It's much easier for CAS if you explain it more detailed via team chat.

Instead of just placing a marker you can say:

Enemy T-72 in J-8 keypad 6 right outside the little village holding still. Keeping it lased. No AA visible but flare just to be sure.

This gives the pilot the information he needs:

What is the target? - A T-72
Where is the target exactly? J8 - keypad 6 outside the village.
Is it moving? No.
Is it Lased? Yes.
Is there AA in the area? Not probable but possible.

Although it takes longer to type this you will increase the chances of the mission going successfully and also gaining the pilots trust which will make him prioritise your laser targets higher than others who just place a marker.

Also remember to tell the pilot/s if you have relased the target. AFAIK lases hold ca.21 sec so if you know its going to take longer remember to relase every 15 sec or something similiar to keep the laser target alive.

Keep updating the pilot too, if an AAV moves into the area or the tank starts to move notify him and he will take the decision on wether too go for it or abort. Nothing is worse than the target getting away and losing the CAS assest at the same time.

Yes, finally one guy know the way how it's done. Ty

[Alex6714]

Knowing whats there is the most important thing... It can change completely how the mission has to go. A marker means very little.

[Tarranauha200]

Reminds me being spotter for CAS at kashan. All jets went down becoase of peoples placing fail lazes and not reporting treats.

[Cassius]

I would be for removing cas and mortar markers, so people get used to using textchat or mumble to call out coordinates. Make it a marker on the SL position as a notification for a request to get the pilots attention that it is time to pay attention to incoming text or voip.

[ebevan91]

I have lazed before and I wasn't Squad Leader or a Sniper but I did pick up an Officer's kit.

It was on Kashan, overlooking North Village, a Blackhawk landed and dropped off almost a full load so I picked up the officers kit that I found nearby and just clicked on the spot that needed bombed with the GLTD. A few seconds later... boom. A bunch of people died.

[Rhino]

I would be for removing cas and mortar markers, so people get used to using textchat or mumble to call out coordinates. Make it a marker on the SL position as a notification for a request to get the pilots attention that it is time to pay attention to incoming text or voip.

I dont see any real point to this tbh, the tool isn't damaging anything just the way its used although it can be used effectively to point out a target when you might be unsure of its exact grid location etc.

If a pilot is concerned about not having a info about the threat, he can ask for the threat info and dosen't have to provide CAS until he gets the info.

[PatrickLA_CA]

It's much easier for CAS if you explain it more detailed via team chat.

Instead of just placing a marker you can say:

Enemy T-72 in J-8 keypad 6 right outside the little village holding still. Keeping it lased. No AA visible but flare just to be sure.

This gives the pilot the information he needs:

What is the target? - A T-72
Where is the target exactly? J8 - keypad 6 outside the village.
Is it moving? No.
Is it Lased? Yes.
Is there AA in the area? Not probable but possible.

Although it takes longer to type this you will increase the chances of the mission going successfully and also gaining the pilots trust which will make him prioritise your laser targets higher than others who just place a marker.

Also remember to tell the pilot/s if you have relased the target. AFAIK lases hold ca.21 sec so if you know its going to take longer remember to relase every 15 sec or something similiar to keep the laser target alive.

Keep updating the pilot too, if an AAV moves into the area or the tank starts to move notify him and he will take the decision on wether too go for it or abort. Nothing is worse than the target getting away and losing the CAS assest at the same time.

That works, and I know that because I have played with Elektro and he was lazing for me from another squad, and I prioritised his targets because they were well explained and it was easier to me and my gunner to make an attack plan

[Noobinator]

While testing sniper kit today, I was able to co-ordinate arty strikes, but not lase CAS.

Is this a bug?



Speaking of lasing, I'm an advocate for markers staying on map, reason being to inform pilots if lase has been used - so other pilots aren't flying around trying to acquire a lock on same lased target.

[SGT.Ice]

It's much easier for CAS if you explain it more detailed via team chat.

Instead of just placing a marker you can say:

Enemy T-72 in J-8 keypad 6 right outside the little village holding still. Keeping it lased. No AA visible but flare just to be sure.

This gives the pilot the information he needs:

What is the target? - A T-72
Where is the target exactly? J8 - keypad 6 outside the village.
Is it moving? No.
Is it Lased? Yes.
Is there AA in the area? Not probable but possible.

Although it takes longer to type this you will increase the chances of the mission going successfully and also gaining the pilots trust which will make him prioritise your laser targets higher than others who just place a marker.

Also remember to tell the pilot/s if you have relased the target. AFAIK lases hold ca.21 sec so if you know its going to take longer remember to relase every 15 sec or something similiar to keep the laser target alive.

Keep updating the pilot too, if an AAV moves into the area or the tank starts to move notify him and he will take the decision on wether too go for it or abort. Nothing is worse than the target getting away and losing the CAS assest at the same time.

Best part is when you do all that and give them an attack direction. But not one pilot ever listens to all of it. They just want the target location.