What war is this mod based on?

Gen.Killer · Post by **Gen.Killer** » 2005-04-26 23:05

Is this mod based on Iraqi Freedom? Or what?

Archangel · Post by **Archangel** » 2005-04-26 23:09

As far as I know its not based on any war, but just a realism mod...I have yet to see a story/setting.

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-04-26 23:10

the "story-line" i believe is the same as the base game BF2 just a stripped down realism based version+the addition of the British as a faction

Ugly Duck · Post by **Ugly Duck** » 2005-04-27 00:28

Just BF2, like they said. Basicaly another of those "what if" WWIII type things. PR just throws in realistic gameplay for those of us who like to play something a little less..... "OMG I know you h4x I'm gunna tell the adm!n on Y00, st00pid n00b!!!!!1111!"

snipurs · Post by **snipurs** » 2005-04-27 18:53

and dont forget a invincible person who can take 5 saw bullets to the stomarch and strug it off like a tank on legs

Gen.Killer · Post by **Gen.Killer** » 2005-04-28 01:27

Well, what countires will be included? Will there be RPG's? Or some kind of anti-tank weapon like in BF2? I wanna know that kinda stuff.

snipurs · Post by **snipurs** » 2005-04-28 02:22

i am not speaking the devs but expect real weapons that would be used for each "faction" "side" (w/e) also the use of bullet drop and proper rocoil and expect ultra realism. Its none of those arcade style gameply, its all about realism and putting ur self in a realistic setting and world. bullets hurt you will and can bleed to death, a round either penitrats a tank or deosnt. one shot with teh higher calibor rifles can kill one shot, more realisic handling in jets (it was said some where that in bf2 the helis are user friendly) which we all know helis and all planes ect in game or not shouldnt be "Easy" to fly it takes time and dedication.a game that you can refer to if i explain my self wround look to "america's army" which is for free given by the us army i love this game because its realisic nature.

Post by **Black Beret** » 2005-04-28 02:45

America's Army isn't very realistic. It's basically CS, but with better weapons.

Tomcat · Post by **Tomcat** » 2005-04-28 04:29

[R-DEV wrote:Black Beret]America's Army isn't very realistic. It's basically CS, but with better weapons.

I agree to a certain extend....AA when was created copied CS in a more realistic way...CS was their model game...as devs openly have admitted...

However, I think that AA is the most realistic popular fps...of course there are more realistic mods and games...infiltration amongst them...but when you want to play and you find 1-2 people online..not much fun...

AA if it didn't have jump, and fast left right strafing would have been a much better game...

However, IMO OFP has to be the most realistic game to date....

snipurs · Post by **snipurs** » 2005-04-28 15:20

dude i didnt say it was ultra realistic. it was said to be close to realism with breathing and guns that block up.. why does everyone pick apart what i say and turn it ageanst me,,? its a game thats alot closer then alot of them out there why say somthing else? wether aa is realistic or not i just wanted to help the guy why place me down by not helping the dude even more.

Post by **JS.Fortnight.A** » 2005-04-28 16:15

There are varying degrees of realism in all games. Any game, depending on the particular individual playing it could be 'more real' to them than say all the other ones. I don't think that Black Beret was trying to, cut anyone down, its just that he personally feels AA isn't as realistic as a some of the other games/mods that are currently out.

No hurt intended to anyone I'm sure.

ops:

My apologies, if you felt lowered in anyway.

Tacamo · Post by **Tacamo** » 2005-04-28 20:49

From what I understand Black Beret loves the Delta Force series for it's realism.

Figisaacnewton · Post by **Figisaacnewton** » 2005-04-28 22:42

Hey, along with redoing the American army and adding the Brits, I hope that you redo the MEC army. Somehow a 'MEC' can afford more expensive (and lots of it) equipment than the US or China, and i think thats ****. The average assault weapon is ak 101? wtf is that! should be 47 or 74.

Also, I'd love to see a storyline that attempts to explain this bizzare scenario. I think there is no way to realistically conjure up a MEC imilar to the EU, but I can see an Arabic military alliance of some arabic countries.

A realistic scenario ( I think ) would be this: US steps up thier backing of Israel, Arabs get pissed off and start the final Jihad, and create an Arabic Military Alliance whose goal is the total destruction of Israel and the destruction of all US troops, equipment and installations they can get thier hands on.

This would involve fighting throughout the ME, with battles raging in important ports, capitals of the arabic countries, major industrial cities of arabic countries, arabic and US military installations in the ME, and, fighting through Tel Aviv and battles to claim Jerusalem, not to mention your large desert tank battles and what not.

Two scenarios I can think of explain how a war in Asia would start:

China hostily attacks Taiwan, world comes to Taiwans aid
North Korea attacks South Korea or US or China and lots of people fight a war against North Korea

Only the former actually has US against China, I'm pretty sure the North Korean conflict, China would be sort of like Russia in WW2, our Ally only because they are the enemy of our enemy. This scenario would have lots of jungle operations, attacks on major and capital cities, jungle ambushes and that kind of stuff.

Technically you would need to add other countries in (Germany, Russia maybe, France? hah! no...) to simulate the whole world at war against China, and you would have to add Israel in for my middle east scenario to work.
Elaborate on that a bit and we have WW3, the end of civilization as we know it! yay!

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-04-28 23:05

Figisaacnewton wrote: Somehow a 'MEC' can afford more expensive (and lots of it) equipment than the US or China, and i think thats ****. The average assault weapon is ak 101? wtf is that! should be 47 or 74.

they own the lions share of the worlds oil what makes you think there so poor many of the richest people/ corporations in the world are in "Arab" nations

other than that i like your scenario for the US vs MEC, i do however feel as tho its not neccessary to add in all the other countries you had suggested. In POE it was the US vs Russia in Sudan and for a while they felt no need to add the Sudan and the mod was still great, same thing with the US v China(centering around North Korea). altho i got the impression you thought US and China would b e allies which doesnt make much sense seeing as how last time we fought North Korea, China sided with them.

snipurs · Post by **snipurs** » 2005-04-28 23:10

[R-DEV wrote: JS.Fortnight.A]There are varying degrees of realism in all games. Any game, depending on the particular individual playing it could be 'more real' to them than say all the other ones. I don't think that Black Beret was trying to, cut anyone down, its just that he personally feels AA isn't as realistic as a some of the other games/mods that are currently out.

No hurt intended to anyone I'm sure. ops:
My apologies, if you felt lowered in anyway.

thanks fortnight for clearing it up, i must of taking it a little tomuch to heart just felt like i built that whole feeling up and then gets nocked away from a little thing..i cryed when i read hes post

lol j./k

Figisaacnewton · Post by **Figisaacnewton** » 2005-04-29 00:33

The other armies wouldnt have to be added in, but it is tottaly unrealistic to think the US could fight that many enemies in that many places at once. We'd lose. I'm not so sure about our relations with China right now, but i remember hearing lately that we warned them when we heard that North Korea was making nukes and they were thankful for the warning...

Any foreign policy experts here (where is Tom Clancy when you need him) to think up a more plausable WW3 scenario?

About the AK-101. How many middle eastern armies are currently equipped with it? I dont think its realistic for them to have all this new weaponry, but in 5 years I may be wrong, im not tottaly sure.

Any world finance/weapons vendors out there?

Post by **JS.Fortnight.A** » 2005-04-29 00:52

Well currently, the Russians are funding Syria and Iran (Middle Eastern Countries) which are on either side of Iraq (Source: CNN.com). Its more than plausible that in reality weapons such as the AK-101 could easily make their way via Russia to the Middle East.

China (like the U.S.) does not want to see a nuclear capable Korean Penninsula. However a sticking point which is likely is if Taiwan (recognized and supported by the U.S. as a democratic nation) delcares its independence from China, the Chinese have threatend to use force if nessacary to prevent Taiwans independence, but realistically I don't believe that the U.S. would try to intervene militarily in such a case (as it would stir up the hornet's nest like no other). (Source: CNN.com)

India and Pakistan (although currently in a shaky cease-fire) could realistically have at eachother at anytime. The U.S. for the most part backs Pakistan. The U.S. right now (unofficially) has its Spec. Forces trainers in Pakistan to train Pakistani Commandos for operations in Waziristan (between Afghanistan and Pakistan) to root out Al-Qeada and Taliban reminants. And we of course have sold to both nations several of our fighter aircraft. (Source: CNN.com)

So we'll def. see how things unfold...

Tomcat · Post by **Tomcat** » 2005-04-29 00:58

personally I will be much more interested in the gameplay of the mod..rather than the scenarios, operation theatres..and if the guns that are given to the armies..are actually used by the armies...

don't get me wrong these things are quite important...however gameplay..is what makes a great mod...

Tacamo · Post by **Tacamo** » 2005-04-29 03:36

With the Russians currently selling boat loads of S-300 missle systems to nations of that region, I don't see why an assualt rifle that is much less complex is so far out of the question.