Is the game and/or community newbie unfriendly?

[Limitbreaker]

As said in topic.

Yes, I'm a puber. But I learn fast. Proof is that I ain't a pubber anymore in eg. DotA.

But still, yes, I'm that ******* AuliX trying to damn play @ NwA server today, I do understand that some people have little time for the game and don't bother helping, but nobody?

I'm not that fucking retarded that I need to be redirected to PR manual everytime by "pros" because I dared to ask about something on server, not on forums. Thing is, questions rise as I play the game and I can't alt-tab to ask or something because (nothing new out here in EA games, right?) game crashes or gets bugged as soon as I do.

Skip those things. I'm fine with some people (hey PHREAK from GAYS ONLY squad ) but I've tried using this Mumble today, I finally got it worked and still I have to go through like 10 additional topics about it because there wasn't all that "very important necessary info" in the first one.

I'm not saying it's not organised or something, I'm saying that it's pretty newbie-unfriendly. I find working in normal squads fun, but as I said, when it comes to trying to do some role I believe I can do, I get smashed all over.

I'm not going to destroy your squad, ruin the game, or shoot from the fucking heli.

I'm not that retarded, for a puber.

TL;DR: emo thread

[Smiddey723]

the game is very difficult to start off with (especially with all the new gadgets 0.95 brought along)

Put it this way i woudlnt want to start playing PR now and im glad ive had some experience with it

The first thing you should do as a newbie is to practice with rifleman and learn how the deviation works

This video helped me: Project Reality: Marksmanship and Deviation Tutorial on Vimeo keep in mind that that this is from 0.85 and the deviation has changed a bit since then (when u move it doesnt fully reset your deviation anymore)

Hope this helps and welcome to the game and forums

[Limitbreaker]

I've played the game before, in 0.6 then in 0.8 not for much time though

thanks

[Swado95]

Just hang out on the training severs or single player for a little while to get use to things before going in. Also Try and stay away from the heavy duty clan severs they like for people to be trained ( a little too much but oh well). Try the Hardcore severs there pretty good about stuff as long as you follow the rules.

[Spartan0189]

I think it's more of the in-game players being rude, but on the forums, you'll be able to find a person who is willing to help you.

But take advice from other people, seems that they will bring you the right way

[Conman51]

Im nice to new guys as long as they have a mic and admit they are new.

If they dont say they are new and i give them a LAT and the miss badly, then i get pissed, but if they tell me first they are new, then i dont mind soo much if they miss bad

[Mellanbror]

To be honest, I think most of us playing regularly could do more to break in newcomers.
Me included I'm sad to say.

I really don't have problems with folks being new to the game. But I usually play in a pretty tight squad (in a clan) and having players new to to all this is, frankly speaking, damaging to ones squads success.

Tell us that you are new when joining our squad. And listen to what we say. Don't say you get it if you don't. Ask us to clearify. We will.

However this isn't just with the new guys. Some veterans don't play all that well either IMO. They might know the manual by heart but they still just run off or grab wrong kits.

It's never easy to join a squad, especially one full of same clan. Guess we all have our diffrent ways. Not many clans play the same way. Some use only 4-man squads. Some divide their 6-man squad up in two 3-man segments. One usually supressing target-area while the other segment flanks. Some are very strict, using formations and all players got their specific places.

To ask any new player to adapt to this with ease is....hehe...it's just plain wrong.

I personally have never called anyone a noob. Think it's a degrating term, used all to often by people who just don't know any better. I am aware of the words actual meaning. But we all know how its used.

And then the constant "READ THE MANUAL". Whats up with that? Ofcourse one should read it first before playing. It's the right/smart thing to do. But it is my bet that most have read it, maybe even twice. But I can't put it on anyone to remember every little detail in it.

If you are new:

- Read the manual.
- Try singelplayer for a few hours, get the hang of it.
- Get on board the PvP =)
- Join a squad.
- Tell us that you are new! Many, with that statement, are glad and willing to help out.
- Ask the squadleader what kit he wants you to grab, and where and when to spawn in.
- Same goes if you go down. Don't ever just respawn. Team loses tickets.
- Going down, you wait for medic, chances are you will get revived on spot.
- Being revived, listen to the medic. He might have directions for you. E.g. crawl north.
- When you are up, get ur beerings and shoulder your weapon.
- If medic is prone you might do well be being crouched aiming above him.
- Medkit is squads lifeline. If your squads medic goes down, you need to grab that kit at
pretty much any cost. Talk to SM's. And don't forget! revive the dead medic.
- If your deaddead. That is can't be revived. Ask SL (squadleader) where/when to spawn in.
- Communication! Talk to SM (squadmembers). But keep chat on buisness at hand.
- Spotting enemies. Dont just start shooting. Call them out to your buddies in squad.
Enemieclass if possible (HAT heavy anti tank, SL, or maybe it's a vehicle~APC etc)
Tell what compass direction (east, northeast, 45, 90 deg etc) they're at.
Give the distance to enemie (150 meters, 400 yards etc).
- By sharing information about enemie, your squad gets a bigger chance of engaging them
with success.
- Many comrose commands can be heard by the nme. Use wisely. Ingamevoip is preferred.
- Covering sectors. Know what direction your fellow SM's are watching, you might do
better watching another one. Cover your squads six!
- Don't run off and do your own thing. Instant kick out of my squad for that one.
Some players, they spot an nme, they just run after them...and they die. Now their whole
squad needs to regroup to help one eager beaver. Not a popular event.
- Ask SL about ROE~rules of engagements. Sometimes its shoot at sight and sometimes it's
only fire if fired upon. Real irritating when you're sneaking up on a target and one SM just
starts blasting away on a nme far off. Sometimes its better to leave the little fishes for a
better chance on the big ones =) I.e the mission at hand.
- Many players are from diffrent nations. Squad can be full of swedes and they sometimes
just want to speak swedish. No offense.
- Join servers chat for added teamplay whether it be mumble or ventrilo.
- Read chat and don't spam it with nonsense.
- Be nice to people, say thx when getting revived or apc gives you ammo.
- Try and be active on forum here. Help find bugs and/or get useful tips.
- Vote PR for mod of the year. Search forum for link
- When mastering all this, be nice to the new guys. You'll have been there. Remember?

There is a whole lot more to learn and master but I'm tired and my mind just went blank. Hope this is helpful for you new guys.

Cheers and yall have a good weekend!

[Cobhris]

I wouldn't say that either one is newbie unfriendly. PR can be daunting if you try to master the whole game at once, but if you just start off with the simple stuff (being an infantry grunt), it soon comes easily and you'll be dropping hostiles and staying alive like a pro.

From my experience, most players are friendly to newbies who actually try to learn the game and play properly. The only time I've seen hostility from the community was when we had noobs (not newbs) in the game who refused to learn the game and insisted on screwing over the team with stupid actions.

[Total_Overkill]

Its not that PR is unfriendly... its that PR is not idiot proof.

[dtacs]

Its only unfriendly to noobs who instill the noob stereotype.

[HKurban]

I was fortunate enough to find a welcoming squad my second game in. They all took time out of the game to teach me the ropes of basic infantry combat in the game, and it was a generally pleasant experience. IIRC, not one of them had clan tags, either. It was just random members of the community welcoming a newcomber who wasn't too shy to say "This is my first time playing PR I might need some help."

That being said, I tried looking for "training servers" or "noobs only" servers like you might find in some other games, and was disappointed not to find any (maybe there were some, but their server population was below a half dozen players). Especially irksome since some servers say "Go to a training server before you try to do fly a chopper" (A reasonable request, they don't want new players wasting assets, but if training servers don't exist...)

my .02 cents as a new player as of 0.95 release.

[Ford_Jam]

Game is fine

Community is generally full of wankers with the occasional down to earth guy

[Raufbold]

Game is fine

Community is generally full of wankers with the occasional down to earth guy

This, plus PR is quite hard to learn and not self explaining.

[Adriaan]

Community is generally full of wankers with the occasional down to earth guy

Now that's not a very nice thing to say is it? Doesn't saying that make you belong to your first category yourself?

[dtacs]

Now that's not a very nice thing to say is it? Doesn't saying that make you belong to your first category yourself?

Wankers deserve to be called wankers. Down to earth people are exactly that.

[Shepard]

Community is generally unfriendly to noobs, i dont really have a problem explaining things to them, aslong as they ask. However sometimes they dont ask and theyll just do something completely random and get alot of people killed xD

Cooperative servers are closest thing to training servers, fast respawns on assets and no 1 will mind if you crash. Best advice for newbs is to remember this isnt BF2 anymore

[AquaticPenguin]

I've found people can be very impolite to newcomers, and there is also an element of elitism. I can understand why to an extent, because especially in pub games it's difficult for people to take the time to explain or guide newcomers when they're busy themselves. That said I think people should do more to advise/explain rather than just flat out calling people 'noobs'. Communication is an issue on public games, on some servers you find a lot of communication, and it's those servers where newbies will glean the most.

[Elektro]

Game is fine

Community is generally full of wankers with the occasional down to earth guy

I'd reverse that.

Alot of cool people in the community who remember how it was to be new and others who seem to think they were born with PR skills.

[karambaitos]

I'd reverse that.

Alot of cool people in the community who remember how it was to be new and others who seem to think they were born with PR skills.

new players could take the time to read the manual, instead of typing how do you request a kit?

[Raufbold]

That doesn?t sound very manly, karambaitos. Read the manual first...Seriously, how many times did you read the manual for a shooter. After all its basically just mouse and ASWD one might think.