Grenades having louder sound when hitting an object

[karambaitos]

currently a grenade hitting a wall or the ground is very hard to hear (especially if you have mumble on), its a simple suggestion to make the impact sound of all grenades louder (not when they explode, but when they hit an object) i think they should be near the sound of what the civi rock makes when it hits something. In any case the current impact sound on the grenades is way to low they sound like someone gently put them on the ground.

[Reddeath]

If you have windows 7 right click the volume tab in the bottom right, go to any of the three, recoring devices, playback devices, or sounds, and in the screen that pops up go to Communications, and click the tab that says do nothing.

Will make it so mumble doesn't turn everything else down.

Also I agree it isn't the easiest thing to discover a grenade, you should have a fighting chance, but also shouldn't be like dropping a boulder on the ground.

[WithoutPurpose]

They should have that "cling" sound like in this video

[DeltaFart]

what are they riding in? doesn't look like HMMWV
BTW good suggestion
And funnny vid

[Grizzly]

what are they riding in? doesn't look like HMMWV
BTW good suggestion
And funnny vid

Looks like a Cheetah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheetah_MMPV

I also agree and I think you would only hear the ping if you are close to the grenade being thrown I don't know how loud it is but the ping is the safety lever being flung off when you throw it.

[WithoutPurpose]

what are they riding in? doesn't look like HMMWV
BTW good suggestion
And funnny vid

It's the MRAP

[Zoddom]

ehm we already have that sound if you havent noticed.

[karambaitos]

ehm we already have that sound if you havent noticed.

you need to re read it, i never said there isnt one, it needs to be louder.

They should have that "cling" sound like in this video

yep and louder still cuz youtube quality isnt the best

[Grizzly]

It's the MRAP

MRAP has split windows, its a cheetah and I misread an earlier post yes they do need a louder clinging I thought you said pinging...lol

[Murphy]

I think it would be pretty hard to hear the sound of a pin being pulled after you've been in a firefight, it's akin to your eyes adjusting to seeing in the dark after you've been in a well lit room. I say leave it as is, even if it is indeed too quiet the effects of war on your ear have a negative impact on hearing. Try standing in a firing line then listening to something with soft sound, it takes time for your hearing to recover.

PS - I hear the pin pull just fine at present, it's saved my life countless times.

[Grizzly]

I think it would be pretty hard to hear the sound of a pin being pulled after you've been in a firefight, it's akin to your eyes adjusting to seeing in the dark after you've been in a well lit room. I say leave it as is, even if it is indeed too quiet the effects of war on your ear have a negative impact on hearing. Try standing in a firing line then listening to something with soft sound, it takes time for your hearing to recover.

PS - I hear the pin pull just fine at present, it's saved my life countless times.

Not about pin pull its about the grenade hitting the floor right next to you or bouncing off the wall above you...

[Smegburt_funkledink]

It's not difficult to understand this suggestion chaps.

Good thinking, I like it.

[Bringerof_D]

good idea, however the ping should not be added, a real grenade would have lost it's spoon long before it hit the ground, the only reason a practice grenade still has it is because it is not spring loaded and stays hooked till it hits something. just make the thud when it lands a bit louder and it would be awesome

[Ninja2dan]

good idea, however the ping should not be added, a real grenade would have lost it's spoon long before it hit the ground, the only reason a practice grenade still has it is because it is not spring loaded and stays hooked till it hits something. just make the thud when it lands a bit louder and it would be awesome

Inert training grenades such as the M69 have a fuze that functions almost the same as a live fuze. In the case of the M69 (a training version of the M67), the M228 fuze is used as opposed to the M213 used on the M67. The M228 and M213 fuzes look and function nearly the same, the difference being that the M228 lacks the explosive detonator at the end. The rest of the fuze assembly is basically the same thing though.

That means the M228 training fuze is going to discard the safety lever (aka "spoon") in exactly the same manner as the M213 live fuze.


In regards to the noise heard when using a grenade, you aren't going to hear the pin being pulled (or the safety clip being released). You will also not be able to hear the safety lever itself being released unless it strikes a solid object after being discarded. In some videos, the light "clink" noise is of the striker swinging down and hitting the primer cap, which happens kind of like a mouse trap. But in most cases, the grenade is going to be a few feet away and flying in the air when that happens, so unless it's in a completely sound-free environment, you probably wouldn't hear it either.

In that video clip, the "plink" noise might have been from the safety lever striking a metal surface inside the vehicle after being released, or it could have been the striker hitting the inert primer. Being inside a closed space (like inside a vehicle), the volume of noise is likely to be amplified and echoed. Out in the open though, you probably wouldn't have heard anything but the thud of the grenade body landing on the ground.


Most hand grenades, such as the M67, weight roughly one pound. They are made up of heavy metal (which provides the fragments), and will make a good loud noise when they strike any solid surface. Imagine throwing a lead fishing weight the size of a baseball, of course it's going to make noise.

The question is, can the volume of an impact vary depending on the surface material and distance from throwing position? A grenade hitting the side of an APC for example is going to make a lot different sound (and volume) than hitting a sand mound or the wooden side of a house.

[Redamare]

Well . . . this is a possibility basicaly overhaul all the collision sounds . . like the sound of when you Drop a (ROCK) for instance . . it makes a thud sound and makes differnt metallic sounds when droped or thrown against differnt objects suchas Cars/ Trees / Doors / walls what ever . . . . its possible to give thrown objects differnt audio . . im IN for it..

PR AUDIO TEAM ASSEMBLE!!

[Dev1200]

Well . . . this is a possibility basicaly overhaul all the collision sounds . . like the sound of when you Drop a (ROCK) for instance . . it makes a thud sound and makes differnt metallic sounds when droped or thrown against differnt objects suchas Cars/ Trees / Doors / walls what ever . . . . its possible to give thrown objects differnt audio . . im IN for it..

PR AUDIO TEAM ASSEMBLE!!

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[Bringerof_D]

Inert training grenades such as the M69 have a fuze that functions almost the same as a live fuze. In the case of the M69 (a training version of the M67), the M228 fuze is used as opposed to the M213 used on the M67. The M228 and M213 fuzes look and function nearly the same, the difference being that the M228 lacks the explosive detonator at the end. The rest of the fuze assembly is basically the same thing though.

That means the M228 training fuze is going to discard the safety lever (aka "spoon") in exactly the same manner as the M213 live fuze.


In regards to the noise heard when using a grenade, you aren't going to hear the pin being pulled (or the safety clip being released). You will also not be able to hear the safety lever itself being released unless it strikes a solid object after being discarded. In some videos, the light "clink" noise is of the striker swinging down and hitting the primer cap, which happens kind of like a mouse trap. But in most cases, the grenade is going to be a few feet away and flying in the air when that happens, so unless it's in a completely sound-free environment, you probably wouldn't hear it either.

In that video clip, the "plink" noise might have been from the safety lever striking a metal surface inside the vehicle after being released, or it could have been the striker hitting the inert primer. Being inside a closed space (like inside a vehicle), the volume of noise is likely to be amplified and echoed. Out in the open though, you probably wouldn't have heard anything but the thud of the grenade body landing on the ground.


Most hand grenades, such as the M67, weight roughly one pound. They are made up of heavy metal (which provides the fragments), and will make a good loud noise when they strike any solid surface. Imagine throwing a lead fishing weight the size of a baseball, of course it's going to make noise.

The question is, can the volume of an impact vary depending on the surface material and distance from throwing position? A grenade hitting the side of an APC for example is going to make a lot different sound (and volume) than hitting a sand mound or the wooden side of a house.

i know that of course, what i meant was a dummy grenade (training nade with no fuse or charge) essentially what you can buy at every army surplus store across the continent. obviously in the video the guy did not drop a live practice grenade in his buddy's lap.

you know the ones used just to practice throwing

[Ninja2dan]

i know that of course, what i meant was a dummy grenade (training nade with no fuse or charge) essentially what you can buy at every army surplus store across the continent. obviously in the video the guy did not drop a live practice grenade in his buddy's lap.

you know the ones used just to practice throwing

I guess they offer different inert "dummy" grenades where you live. Here in the USA the dummy grenades found in most surplus stores or for sale from novelty shops all use demil fuzes. These are "used" M228 training fuzes that have the delay/detonator stem cut off but retain the fired primer/striker assembly and safety handle.

With the dummy grenades found around here, you can still set the striker under tension so the "spoon" flies off when released because the springs are almost always still intact. The grenade bodies are usually hollow replicas and not demils, but it varies depending on where you acquire it.

The image below shows a demil M228 fuze, you can see the delay/detonator stem is removed just after the delay train segment.




I didn't see what object the person in that video actually used, so who knows what it was. There is a chance that he actually did use a training grenade such as the M69, only with an already-fired fuze assembly. This would still allow the safety lever to fly off and the striker to snap onto the primer cap, but there would be no primer initiation, delay burn, or the pop from the training booster.

It would have been pretty safe to use a live M69 and fuze though, as the M228 fuze has a very small "detonator". When installed in the M69 body, you can safely be holding the grenade when it goes off, as long as your hand isn't covering up the vent port at the bottom. There will be a small amount of shock, but nothing strong enough to damage flesh/bone. I should know as I've done it myself hundreds of times, along with other things a training NCO probably shouldn't do in the company of recruits.

[Mellanbror]

This has to do with settings. Threadstarter asked about impactsound. I hear nadesounds very well. Saved me and squad many times.
Only time I don't hear it is of natural causes i.e other louder sounds hides it.
As they should.

[karambaitos]

This has to do with settings. Threadstarter asked about impactsound. I hear nadesounds very well. Saved me and squad many times.
Only time I don't hear it is of natural causes i.e other louder sounds hides it.
As they should.

yes thank you, i didnt say anything about any pins only the grenade it self hitting a solid surface.

i can hear them too, but it is not loud enough in my opinion a tin can makes a louder sound if you throw it at a wall.
also IDK but when you turn on EAX the impact sound of grenades decreases dramatically
please if you can stop the grenade pin discussion.