Vehicle and Penetration List ?

[ZephyrDark]

SA-13 Gopher is used on Silent Eagle as the Russian Mobile SAM System.
MTLBs used:

MT-LB (7.62 PKT[Basically a PKM for a coaxial machine gun])
MT-LBVM (.50 cal)
9P149 "Shturm-S" (Anti-Tank Guided Missile[ATGM])
MT-LBM (izdeliye 6MB) (30mm)
9A34 (aka SA-13 "Gopher") (Anti-Air Missile[SAM])

[Garack]

If you look at the community modding section you will find a topic called something like community training map.

It contains ALL the vehicles from ALL of the factions.

This would be nice..

Community Maps - Project Reality Forums

I can only find WIP maps..

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/search ... id=1553392

BTW Found Training Maps and Local Configs, links wa removed by admins but google was my friend, so i can test now

[Nax]

IIRC, it takes 8 regular rpgs to take out an Abrahms (or at least thats the way it was back when we did the "Raid of Fallujah" event).

.50 cal can penetrate the Chinese Bat mobiles.

When fighting enemy tanks, a single tank round or AT shot can take out an enemy tank if you hit it exactly where the turret meets the hull of the tank (it causes the projectile to bounce off the hull into the turret, counting as two hits). Devs may have fixed that.

[Hunt3r]

Seriously? Troll much?

No troll, IRL it's possible to completely mission-kill an Abrams if you can catch it alone, and get close enough with a 20mm cannon, autocannon preferably. First order of business is undoubtedly to destroy whatever can kill you, so destroy the .50 cal on top, then destroy the main gun, then destroy the gunner periscope housing, try to hit the commander's vision blocks, shoot up the tracks and suspension/road wheels.

It would take a serious tactical error for one to have the time to do this though. You're probably better off with an ATGM team.

[Archerchef]

any information on hydras or S-8 against MBT? I know 14 hydras are enough to take out a bmp (accomplished on jabal before). Hellfire/guided missile are usually one shot kill correct?
Also.. A-10 cannon is combat ineffective against tanks i think.

[dtacs]

Also.. A-10 cannon is combat ineffective against tanks i think.

It isn't, I've seen an A10 destroy a T-72 by coming from above and shooting its roof directly on, same with the F-16.

Both just take a very good pilot.

[ZephyrDark]

No troll, IRL it's possible to completely mission-kill an Abrams if you can catch it alone, and get close enough with a 20mm cannon, autocannon preferably. First order of business is undoubtedly to destroy whatever can kill you, so destroy the .50 cal on top, then destroy the main gun, then destroy the gunner periscope housing, try to hit the commander's vision blocks, shoot up the tracks and suspension/road wheels.

It would take a serious tactical error for one to have the time to do this though. You're probably better off with an ATGM team.

But we're not talking about real life, we're talking about in-game.

[Archerchef]

It isn't, I've seen an A10 destroy a T-72 by coming from above and shooting its roof directly on, same with the F-16.

Both just take a very good pilot.

Hmm. in real life gau-8 on A-10 cant penetrate majority of a MBT's armor. It just dents it that's why i was wondering.

[Hunt3r]

The GAU-8 on the A-10 is just solid 30mm AP, so it has about 50-60mm penetration power. Armor in MBTs are almost always in around the 100mm range except in very key areas. Best bet these days is just to have more HE in the party mix so you can hope for a mission kill.

On a side note, the reason why the A-10 loads solid AP-I instead of APDS or APFSDS is because the sabot petals would get sucked into the engine.

[Archerchef]

Gau-8 Armor penetration:
69 mm at 500 meters
38 mm at 1000 meters
definitely not effective against MBT though it may ruin sensors, targeting, etc. I dont think the A-10 or any other aircraft mounted gun in PR should be able to kill MBT, thats where the maverick missiles comes in handy(unless u get a ac130 with a side mounted 105 lol)

[tntkid22]

(unless u get a ac130 with a side mounted 105 lol)

^^^ needs to be added.

Just for funs sake . Though I cannot see players using it correctly or how to balance it :/

(was not serious suggestion...unless wanted to be )


as the a-10 ive been able to take out most mec armor on kashan using my guns. tho leading with rockets prob helped as well ^.^

[Hunt3r]

The A-10 should be able to track the vehicle, just not much more than that.

Well, for all intents and purposes the A-10 will shred up APCs and the like.

[HMARS]

The GAU-8 on the A-10 is just solid 30mm AP, so it has about 50-60mm penetration power. Armor in MBTs are almost always in around the 100mm range except in very key areas. Best bet these days is just to have more HE in the party mix so you can hope for a mission kill.

Are we talking about actual thickness here, or RHA equivalent?

Because a modern MBT has far more than 100mm of RHA equivalent protection against pretty much everything.

[Archerchef]

Most likely RHAe
the M1 Abrams have
1,320?1,620 millimetres (52?64 in) of RHAe versus HEAT in the front armor according to wikipedia..

[Riflewizard]

You guys seem to forget the a10's cannon fires at like 4200 RPM. And is highly accurate.
So, it will pierce any tank armor.

And the game replicates it well enough.

[BenHamish]

The cannon is accurate, i'm not sure how accurate the A-10 is as a platform though (better than most, but that is a BIG gun).

The only way an A-10 could possibly kill an MBT with the GAU-8 is to dive on it from above.

[Hunt3r]

You guys seem to forget the a10's cannon fires at like 4200 RPM. And is highly accurate.
So, it will pierce any tank armor.

And the game replicates it well enough.

A non-penetrating shot will not magically penetrate if you fire the same shot again. Unless you can somehow whittle down the armor and fire about 40-50 shots into the same exact place, then I will admit that the GAU-8 is the ultimate weapon and we should get around to fitting one of them onto the Abrams.

[H.Maverick]

I've seen on a tv show on history channel were it destroyed a T-72 with the gun and it was a frontal attack it didn't dive

[Dev1200]

The cannons on all jets can destroy the tanks, due to ROF and top attack.

[Archerchef]

You guys seem to forget the a10's cannon fires at like 4200 RPM. And is highly accurate.
So, it will pierce any tank armor.

And the game replicates it well enough.

The cannon is accurate, i'm not sure how accurate the A-10 is as a platform though (better than most, but that is a BIG gun).

The only way an A-10 could possibly kill an MBT with the GAU-8 is to dive on it from above.

The cannons on all jets can destroy the tanks, due to ROF and top attack.

A-10's cannon shouldnt be able to do that much damage, or else the military would replace light tanks with 105mm to a high ROF 30mm cannon.


Stolfi, Dr. R., Dr. J. Clemens, and R. McEachin, Combat Damage Assessment Team A-10/GAU-8 Low Angle Firings Versus Individual Soviet Tanks, February-March 1978, Volume 1, Air Force/56780/February 2, 1979.

In this test an A-10 aircraft attacked two combat-loaded individual Soviet T-62 tanks in five missions totaling seven passes; technicians rehabilitated the two vehicles after each pass. The aircraft were seldom higher than 200 feet in altitude; firings were initiated between 2768 and 4402 feet and terminated at ranges of 1587 to 3055 feet at dive angles of 1.8 to 4.4?. The bursts ranged from 120 to 165 rounds.

Altogether 93 DU rounds struck the tanks during the seven passes, including no impacts on one pass. The ratio of impacts to rounds fired was 0.10. Of the 93 impacts, 17 penetrated the armored envelopes for a ratio of perforations to impacts of 0.18. The report noted many of the side or rear impacts that did not penetrate the armor nonetheless extensively damaged the tanks' exterior suspension components, whereas all the rounds that hit the tanks' front caused minimal damage. These results reinforced the strategy of attacking tanks from the side or rear to optimize damage potential.