[Solved] Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

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Garack
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by Garack »

I tried with teamspeak 3 running in the back for a week. Played about 15 hours or more in different sessions.

No BSOD. Bevore i had one every 1-2 hours...

Can be random but give it a try.,,
Noobinator
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by Noobinator »

Garack wrote:Hardware high doesnt help. Where to set 62channels?
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Garack
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by Garack »

Theres no Sound.con only audio.con. And theres no value 64 wich i can change into 62, only this:

AudioSettings.setVoipEnabled 1
AudioSettings.setVoipPlaybackVolume 0.453003
AudioSettings.setVoipCaptureVolume 1
AudioSettings.setVoipCaptureThreshold 0.1
AudioSettings.setVoipBoostEnabled 0
AudioSettings.setVoipUsePushToTalk 1
AudioSettings.setProvider ""
AudioSettings.setSoundQuality "Medium"
AudioSettings.setEffectsVolume 1
AudioSettings.setMusicVolume 0.0537329
AudioSettings.setHelpVoiceVolume 1
AudioSettings.setEnglishOnlyVoices 0
AudioSettings.setEnableEAX 1
Last edited by Garack on 2010-11-30 17:33, edited 1 time in total.
Sabre_tooth_tigger
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by Sabre_tooth_tigger »

Can anyone say if XFI improves sound in pr like it does for bf2.
I used to own one and remember the best thing was it added more surround sound via EAX-HD, not sure if that'd apply to mods though

AudioSettings.setSoundQuality "Medium"
this part should read high. you can just edit that in
Garack
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by Garack »

yeah i know--i only searched for the mentioned BSOD FIX, but theres none.

Only solution is restart after every game.

I pick up a map which has already started then join, play 1 hour and restart after. I clear favorites and videos so restart only takes 30 secs..


And YES Ultra High XFI improves Sound much more then in Vanilla BF2.

The PR Devs have make great Work works.

I am able for hear clearer and better sound AND can hear footsteps bevore the medium/high Settings guys can.
DocBrown
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by DocBrown »

Hello,
i'm currently having similar issues with my creative x-fi sound card. and for now the only solution is quitting PR and then reconnect.

I don't clear favorites nor something each time, I just rejoin the server i left.
Never had a BSOD since i started this, and this trick isn't such a pain in the *** since i'm able to reconnect before the game start.

But we really need a new driver :(
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KEIOS
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by KEIOS »

Yeah. I've bought the Xfi for playing BF and now i can't really use it with PR :(
TeRR0R
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by TeRR0R »

So how can you set to max 62 channels?
Didn't find anything regarding that.
Noobinator
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by Noobinator »

Hi sorry guys for the late reply.

Look in your Profiles folder for the sound.con file.

rem *** 3D settings ***
Sound.setDopplerFactor 1
Sound.setRolloffFactor 1
Sound.setDistanceFactor 1

rem *** Performance settings ***
Sound.setPitchChangeRate 15

rem Sound.setTemplateLevel UltraHigh

rem *** Generated ***

game.setDisableSound 0
game.setChannels 64
game.setMasterVolume 75
game.setMenuMusicVolume 50
game.setMusicOnOff 1
game.setLocalizedDialog 0
game.setQuality 3
game.setSoundDetail 4
game.setHardware 1
Here's my audio.con file fwiw...
AudioSettings.setVoipEnabled 1
AudioSettings.setVoipPlaybackVolume 1
AudioSettings.setVoipCaptureVolume 1
AudioSettings.setVoipCaptureThreshold 0.1
AudioSettings.setVoipBoostEnabled 0
AudioSettings.setVoipUsePushToTalk 1
AudioSettings.setProvider "Creative"
AudioSettings.setSoundQuality "UltraHigh"
AudioSettings.setEffectsVolume 1
AudioSettings.setMusicVolume 0
AudioSettings.setHelpVoiceVolume 0
AudioSettings.setEnglishOnlyVoices 1
AudioSettings.setEnableEAX 1
AudioSettings.setAlwaysAllowSystemOpenAL 1



Also very important is the creative driver version you are using... :)

Cheers..

btw Alchemy also works, but only the latest version, file name is ALMY_PCAPP_BETA_LB_1_43_06
Any earlier version will not work ;)


Are u guys using Xram?
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KEIOS
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by KEIOS »

I did find the sound.con in my gamefolder in ...\Battlefield2\Profiles\Local\Default and changed it to:
rem *** 3D settings ***
Sound.setDopplerFactor 1
Sound.setRolloffFactor 1
Sound.setDistanceFactor 1

rem *** Performance settings ***
Sound.setPitchChangeRate 15

rem Sound.setTemplateLevel UltraHigh

rem *** Generated ***

game.setDisableSound 0
game.setChannels 62
game.setMasterVolume 75
game.setMenuMusicVolume 50
game.setMusicOnOff 1
game.setLocalizedDialog 0
game.setQuality 3
game.setSoundDetail 4
game.setHardware 1
Creative is activated and sound is set to ultra high. Played the whole evening without a crash :)
Noobinator
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by Noobinator »

KEIOS wrote:I did find the sound.con in my gamefolder in ...\Battlefield2\Profiles\Local\Default and changed it to:



Creative is activated and sound is set to ultra high. Played the whole evening without a crash :)
Great to hear..

This is not strictly PR issue it's a a problem with the card (or Creative's shitty drivers).. For some reason when 64 2D/3D EAX channels are enabled it runs out of buffers - causing BSOD.

Restricting buffers (channels) to <62 apparently allows a little breathing room.

Hope this helps!! :)
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KEIOS
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by KEIOS »

:( Had a BSoD again. Reduced Channels to 60 and will continue testing.
BloodyDeed
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by BloodyDeed »

wow, im very interessted in your testings, keios.
Tell us if you finally found a good value.

I tried lots of things like drivers and dlls too but nothing worked...except the restarts...
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Noobinator
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by Noobinator »

Do you guys use XRAM at all? I also read that it causes problems..
KEIOS wrote: :( Had a BSoD again. Reduced Channels to 60 and will continue testing.
Next time you get BSOD, can you note the stop code error and post it? Cheers.. :)





I use an Audigy 2, but have 62 channels enabled in sound.con. I also use Alchemy (link in earlier post) from time to time....

Also I'm using Daniel K's modded drivers. I used to get BSOD too, but now I don't.

You could even try setting 32 Channels just to see. Another thing is I have AlwaysAllowSystemOpenAL added to the .con file, this stops software OpenAL from being used...

I also removed the wrap_oal file from system32/wow64 and renamed CT_OAL (native OAL) to OpenAL32 and added it to system32/wow64.

This way if BF2OpenAL decides to use OpenAL32 (generic software device) it can't, it's forced to use the native Creative device instead. (CT_OAL)
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Megagoth1702
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by Megagoth1702 »

I have the X-Fi Xtreme Gamer, using with PAX drivers, getting BSOD with that "page fault in non paged area" thing... Every 2nd round or so. I can play one round and in the middle of the 2nd one there will be a BSOD 100%...

Anything that helps me get away from this is welcomed.

I mean - PR BF2 will stay alive for a few more years, a few more years I am stuck to the damn X-.Fi Card and the BSODs, lol. :-D
KEIOS
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by KEIOS »

BSoD again with Channels set to 60 :/
BCCode: 50
BCP1: FFFFFFFF86250000
BCP2: 0000000000000000
BCP3: FFFFF800024D2882
BCP4: 0000000000000005
OS Version: 6_0_6002
Service Pack: 2_0
Product: 768_1
Noobinator
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by Noobinator »

KEIOS wrote:BSoD again with Channels set to 60 :/
Yeah stop 50 is page fault, it sure seems like a buffer/memory use problem.

You still haven't said if XRAM is enabled. Seems to me like restarting the the map clears any cached data, hence why it may help....

I also belong to a well known tech forum, so will ask around there for opinions, and report back... :)
KEIOS
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by KEIOS »

I've got the Creative Xfi XtremeGamer and it doesn't seem to have XRAM.
illidur
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by illidur »

the solution is to not ever buy creative products again. this has been known and around for too long. "hardware - high" setting is NOT 5.1! i also have this problem, xram disabled. BSOD randomly.

i hear the Xonar atleast works.
illidur
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Re: Creative X-FI @ Ultra High = BSOD only in PR

Post by illidur »

I FOUND A FIX for my xfi titanium. i can play with xfi mode - ultra high.

theres a trick of making sure bf2 doesn't use the outdated openal that gets installed with the game (BF2OpenAL.DLL)? Copy wrap_oal.dll from the syswow64 folder to the bf2 installation folder & rename it to BF2OpenAL.DLL. ive been playing for a few hours now and not a single bsod.... been searching forever for a solution and finally found one ! YES 5.1!!!!!!!!!!!

PS: im not sure if xram needs to be disabled in registry or not anymore. im sure that this will work for more than just my soundcard. It makes a huge difference sound quality wise.
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