Humvee Tactics?

[NoobbaneR]

I had been interested in trying to use 2 or more humvees or other lightly armed vehicles in a squad on insurgency maps, and looked on here for any guides on doing so, but i notice there isnt a thread on the topic in any of the sections.

Has anyone got any suggestions for what such a squad could do to stay alive best and help out the team? perhaps as transport vehicles when apcs are down (a 4 man squad with 2 humvees could transport a 6 man squad)

Also does anyone know why squad members cannot shoot out of their windows? i know its not meant to be grand theft auto with drive bys and stuff like that but im sure its pretty realistic to be able to do.

[Dunehunter]

Because if you can fire your regular weapon out of the window, you can shoot an AR or an AT weapon out of it too

[Rudd]

watch different vectors and you'll be fine.

[NoobbaneR]

that makes a lot of sense unfortunately

tho an AT4 in a humvee is still no match for an apc which would blow the thing straight out of the water anyway?

[Dunehunter]

And heavy AT?

[NoobbaneR]

i dunno how accurately could they shoot from the windows, were they under zero deviation cos they werent moving, or loads of deviation cos the humvee was?

and also surely only a bad apc squad would get blown up by one? it would atleast make humvees half useful in conventional warfare as well as asymetrical war

[him_j]

well we had an APC squad set up, with 2 APC's. We were working with 2 infantry squads giving them cover fire, and they used us as cover to cross open ground. you could set up by an infantry squad so they can use you for cover against light arms fire.

mind you we were all using mumble so it was slightly easier to communicate. It would probably be pretty difficult to acomplish with the Team Chat,

[NoobbaneR]

had a great game in humvees today on operation archer(edit: i think it was operation archer, it was USMC v taliban the one with the castle), took me ages to scam 3 humvees, but once we did we killed everything we passed, apart from two big reds, that always seemed to drive at my vehicle

we stuck to basics having lead vehilce cover front, lead vehicle had no essential personel in, i was driving mid vehicle, whose gunner covered the sides, and rear vehicle covered the back, which had medic in it.

it was really easy to share targets because as we drove in convoy, you could use simple directions like left, right and behind, and then the other gunners just follow the tracers of the gunner who spotted it.

however i think the only reason it went so well was because it was a taliban map. on any other map there would just be tons of mine spam, bordering on the ridiculous, i wish they would make iraqi insurgents work like taliban, so they could request a wider variety of kits, so they didnt need to depend on mines for taking out armour.

is there any US v Taliban maps set in a city? i cant remember

[Qubetube]

Nope, both US-Taliban maps are pretty rural. Kokan has all those small compounds, though.

[dtacs]

Nope, both US-Taliban maps are pretty rural. Kokan has all those small compounds, though.

I have one question, why did you reply to this post which is over a year old?

What possible reason would you have for replying? Not trying to be a ****, just trying to understand why on earth people reply to these threads as if they were made yesterday.

[goguapsy]

I have one question, why did you reply to this post which is over a year old?

What possible reason would you have for replying? Not trying to be a ****, just trying to understand why on earth people reply to these threads as if they were made yesterday.

Because we want to learn more tactics!

And most subjects have been talked about before - creating a new thread = getting it locked... It's kinda like a paradox: you can't create a thread that has been created before... but "Internet etiquette" prevents you from bumping an old one.


Anyways, on Insurgency - I only use HMMVVs, mostly, when playing against Taliban (read: Kokan), or big open desert areas like Karbala. In AAS, is kind of an issue AT weapons.

Basically, keep the HMMVVs spaced - one bomb car must not be able to take out both. If you are not moving (such as when you are camping a compound, the drivers should hop out and provide back and sides security, informing the .50 cal gunners about any threat in a 360? area, besides taking care of staggered enemies nearby).

[gazzthompson]

Because we want to learn more tactics!

And most subjects have been talked about before - creating a new thread = getting it locked... It's kinda like a paradox: you can't create a thread that has been created before... but "Internet etiquette" prevents you from bumping an old one.
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The normal etiquette is normally to acknowledge you are bumping and to keep it relevant, neither of which was done as the person the guy is replying to probably isnt here anymore and/or the comment is irrelevant anyway (kokan didn't exist back when that guy asked the question)

[goguapsy]

The normal etiquette is normally to acknowledge you are bumping and to keep it relevant, neither of which was done as the person the guy is replying to probably isnt here anymore and/or the comment is irrelevant anyway (kokan didn't exist back when that guy asked the question)

Yeah I know, Op Archer, on the other hand, did have HMMVVs



TBH I think HMMVVs must be used rather as an anti-vehicle car and suppression rather than actively moving in a city - I normally asked 2 ppl - who are not the medic nor the AR nor me - to move 100m away from us, so we can protect IT from RPGs and it protects US against other cars.

[Gozjh]

This might not be very relevant to PR, but I was listening to a book called "Ghost of War" and it described a technique for stopping a convoy of 4 HMMWVs (or other vehicles) on a road if a stop is needed. It could be applied to insurgency if Mines are spotted, HMMWVs need to set up quickly, or a FOB needs to be deployed and covering fire is needed.

First car stops on road and watches 12 o' clock, the second pulls of to the left of the road a watch 9 o' clock, 3rd goes right to watch 3 o' clock, and the 4th stops on the road and watches 6 o' clock. The first and second vehicles must always be armed, while the 2nd and 3rd can be unarmed.

[Elektro]

I tend to just avoid the mine and keep driving.

[Mora]

Drive like a madman at all times. It works better then driving slowly.

[Tarranauha200]

I tend to just avoid the mine and keep driving.

You should check area around the mine. One Insurgent tactic is to set mine so that its easy to see and avoid. Then they put IEDs around it and when your focus is on mine and going around it, you wont notice IEDs.

[ydderFx]

You should check area around the mine. One Insurgent tactic is to set mine so that its easy to see and avoid. Then they put IEDs around it and when your focus is on mine and going around it, you wont notice IEDs.

Aha, i love doing this

[Infantry4Ever]

Or hide the mine under a rock....they wont be able to tell until its to late.

[Cavazos]

This might not be very relevant to PR, but I was listening to a book called "Ghost of War" and it described a technique for stopping a convoy of 4 HMMWVs (or other vehicles) on a road if a stop is needed. It could be applied to insurgency if Mines are spotted, HMMWVs need to set up quickly, or a FOB needs to be deployed and covering fire is needed.

First car stops on road and watches 12 o' clock, the second pulls of to the left of the road a watch 9 o' clock, 3rd goes right to watch 3 o' clock, and the 4th stops on the road and watches 6 o' clock. The first and second vehicles must always be armed, while the 2nd and 3rd can be unarmed.

Don't worry, it's relevant. That formation is the coil formation for vehicles. It's similar to the herringbone formation. The last vehicle will turn around however so the most armored front faces towards the direction of a possible threat since armor is always weakest.

GoGo, i'm not trying to bust yours balls but i'm going to do it anyway. It's HMMWV with a W, not a V. lol.

While the reply wasn't too helpful, I am glad it was done since I would like to discuss light armored car tactics. Using the vehicle like a MG and hiding it in cover and covering crucial sectors of fire is useful. Just because it is resistant to small arms fire, doesn't mean your vehicle should be an easy target and easy to hit. Try using the vehicle in a hull-down position. Why make it easy for the enemy?

Check out my AAR in which I mention how useful the .50 jeep in FH2 is. That's right, the cheap, easily trashed, and under appreciated FH jeep. 10th post in the thread, The .50 Cal Willy Jeep under 2nd Round section.

Don't forget to read Jigsaw's guide if you haven't. Alongside reading Tank-Infantry from LtCol. McBreen, this is my other go-to guide for mechanized infantry operations. There really isn't something else besides these two sources that gives you better advice in these sort of operations. I really can't say enough good about these two.