Coordinating Artillery...

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-05-16 00:19

As we all know by now, the commander has the ability to preform artillery strikes, what about aiming it when a squad leader calls in a strike via the commander, now im not sure if this is already in Battlefield, but can Project Reality place grids over players map when they pull them up... So instead of a player saying to the commander... "I need an artillery strike in the field on the upper right corner of the map" First of all, that can be dangerous to friendlies in the area because the field may be large. And at times it can be hard to figure out your enemies positon... So with a grid, the commander may hear something alittle more along these lines... "I need an artillery strike at these coordinates, 10 clicks North, 6.5 clicks East" That will make it more realistic and it should help the commader out when it comes to finding the area for the strike...

So basically a guy spots an enemy unit, he looks at his map and trys to figure out their position, then he looks at that positions coordinates, calls them in to the commander, commander finds coordinates and fires artiller into that area, player sits back and watches the fireworks

Warrior · Post by **Warrior** » 2005-05-16 00:29

I'm pretty sure that they way it works for in BF2, the pics that I saw of the Commander view, their are grids placed all over the map.

Post by **JS.Fortnight.A** » 2005-05-16 01:46

We have a pretty powerful idea in the works regarding the integration of snipers as well as airbone units which will work together with the Commander to provide artillery at needed locations possibly using a coordinate system; for now that is all I can say, as we have yet to test its effectiveness (it all works very nicely in theory though

). Not to discourage your thoughts, as all of your ideas are more than valid, and we will look into all suggestions put forward as long as they are within the scope of our ability to recreate them realistically and effectivley.

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-05-16 02:55

Well you guys have done it again, now you got my attention and I wont be able to sleep until I find out what it is

By the way, this is more of a compliment to the PR Staff, I'm always glad to see you guys talking in the forums and discussing ideas with your followers, good work and keep it up, Project Reality is gonna rule!!!

Ugly Duck · Post by **Ugly Duck** » 2005-05-17 00:20

I hope that instead of the commander being in a semi-god mode and being able to rain artillary and all that good stuff. He should have to follow procedure with his troops. So a scout/sniper/special forces operater would be able to identify a target, and the commander would in turn confirm the target and then OK the strike. Resulting in points for both ends.

Pulaski · Post by **Pulaski** » 2005-05-17 21:52

Yeah, what Ugly said. I am worried about the semi-god mode too.

I realize that artillery was (is) the most under-used weapons platform in DC/BF1942, but I really hope that the BF2 implementation doesn't go overboard.

If you have a sniper that is able to call in targets at will, that might get a bit much. At least, there should be some delay in-between the time of request from spotter until the shells arrive at target. You wouldn't want a constant barrage over extended periods of time.

I guess balance is the key again.

/s Pulaski

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-05-17 22:20

im not a pub or clan player im a tournament player so i can say from that stand point artillery is one of the most useful tools on the battlefield, thats why im not thrilled with making the arty computer controled (for the most part) i liked the way it was and i know alot of guys that love doing arty and are damm good at it that arent happy about how its set up in BF2

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-05-17 22:24

Im with Beckwith on this one, not that I've ever played battlefield, but that'll soon change as I get BFV running... Well back to the topic, it'll be sad to see a good teamwork weapon such as artillery to be taken out from basic gameplay, If PR could put Artillery back into the basic game for everyone to use that would be awsome.

Pulaski · Post by **Pulaski** » 2005-05-18 23:17

Beckwith wrote:im not a pub or clan player im a tournament player so i can say from that stand point artillery is one of the most useful tools on the battlefield, thats why im not thrilled with making the arty computer controled (for the most part) i liked the way it was and i know alot of guys that love doing arty and are damm good at it that arent happy about how its set up in BF2

Yey! Good to see another tournament player here!

I totally agree with you from the standpoint of a tournament, organized play, artillery wins the battle most of the time.

However, given that most servers ARE pub servers, the "god" arty mode is useful for those players. For PR puposes, I would not be all that upset if this computer controlled mode made a discreet exit, stage left, never to be seen again.

I think the caliber (pardon the pun) of future PR players is such, that we can surely operate artillery on our own, without too much comp interference.

/s Pulaski

Post by **JS.Fortnight.A** » 2005-05-19 00:23

I wish I could go against my Oath of Office on this one, and spill the beans but I can't

ops: You guys have some really good thoughts going on here though!

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-05-19 00:50

Psss, Fortnight, I'll give you a WHOLE QUARTER!!! if you spill the beans

Post by **JS.Fortnight.A** » 2005-05-19 00:51

Huh! I'm hard up friend

It'll take a bit more than that

maybe I shouldn't have said anything to start with

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-05-19 00:53

Okay, TWO WHOLE QUARTERS!!! Take it or leave it my friend... Cant go any higher or I'll be broke

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-05-19 01:11

the guy that runs the tournaments i play in was at E3 today and he said he asked the EA guys about ea and they said it there are two choices "god arty" or no arty he said there doesnt appear to be a way to get it to work otherwise which is disapointing im hoping he/im mistaken on this

ops:

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-05-19 01:20

Well, maybe PR can get it in there somehow

Post by **JS.Fortnight.A** » 2005-05-19 01:26

Hmm everyone said that heat-seeking (domed object seeking) missiles in BF42/DC would never happen and then DCX fed the masses their words right back to em, cream coated. Once we get the chance to shine, we'll give it a rigerous look over!

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-05-19 04:08

FOUR WHOLE QUARTERS MAN!!! You must be loaded with money!!!!!