Lend a hand, to a noob

[Mr.Talala]

Well my first question is: I'm a new PR gamer, i played it on and off before but i play it often now. One thing i loved to do in BF2 was fly, grant, i sucked but i still liked flying. Now i read the manual and tryed it myself, flying is very hard on here. So, for those who fly often, do you have any tips on flying? Also, more or less sensitive for either Aircraft and Heli?

[illidur]

practice on coop alot. you will get it. after the engine warms up it isn't that different from vbf2. you will learn that even after you are in a vertical nose dive that lowering the throttle slows your heli down

if you start to tip over, tap the down throttle key (default s) and it will pull you the opposite direction (wheels to the ground). you must tap it though because if you hold it you will overdo it and tip over the other way.

[Punkbuster]

I have the default mouse sensitivity and it works fine.
I wouldn't recommend a Joystick for flying choppers in PR, but that is only me. I use the mouse.

Just make slight adjustments to the mouse, it is very sensitive so it should respond very fast, slight movements are enough to change your heading.

When flying the Huey and you want to stop, pull the nose up and tap W, because if you don't, you may lose control. If you did lose control, just press W and regain it back.

The rest is just practice. Practice on a local server as much as you can and you would be good.

[illidur]

interestingly i do the complete opposite to land a huey... i nose down slightly and throttle down. if im going too fast then i'll nose up. same with chinook.

[Mr.Talala]

Well i do use a Joystick, its a Logitech Extreme 3D pro. I do fine with it regular flying, its controlling it is my problem, and i'm also very hesitance. Last night i decided i would be a cobra gunner, and i was there and i was looking around for enemy's and thought i saw some, but i wasn't sure. Pilot flew low for an attack and shot down some people, but because of me being hesitance, i didn't shoot because i didn't know if they were friendly's or not, and we ended up getting killed.
Thats my two biggest problems, control, and knowing if someone's friendly or not

[hobbnob]

Like punkbuster said, the key is practice. Stay off of public servers when learning, because one simple mistake can get people very annoyed on there. Keep to the local server, keep practicing, then practice some more, and then some good ol' practice to make sure

[killonsight95]

start by flying blackhawks on co-op and the big MEC heli, then you can move onto the huey's, then move onto the small heli's in PR the smaller they are the more likly they are to die. attack heli's are very hard to fly

[Spec]

Attack helis are easiest =o

I find the big transport choppers to be the hardest to control, but that just shows how much it depends on the individual player.

There's passworded training servers around that you can use for flying practice; you have a real server situation then (ping, lag etc) while there won't be anyone yelling at you for crashing them and they'll instantly respawn.

Good luck!

[gerth.homlud]

to be a good pilot there is more than just good flying skills.

because your flying skills might be the best ever seen but you are useless if you got no

information(laser, jet report, aa report.....),

communication (where you wanne go, where is this, where is that,),

coordination(wingman, target priority, approaching from, right on time lase.....) and

TEAMWORK(try to kill a moving tank without lase and marker with shortest time under 1000m altitude (aa reachzone)) won't work!

so train your flying skills and then train the surrounding procedures.

pilots are usefull with the right team/squad otherwise they are a pain in the *** and ticket wasters.

[Ridge]

I learned the Huey first. Can't quite get the blackhawk down. Its seems different from other helis.

I can't stand flying m/k. I find it so much more controllable with a joystick.

Like everyone else said. Practice on local coop for a while and then move onto online coop. Fly a lot on online coop before going to PvP games.

If your good at one heli doesn't mean you can fly all of them. I would practice on coop with the heli you are learning to fly even if you already learned how to fly a different one.

Concentrate on thoroughly learning one helicopter at a time a time. I would recommend learning to fly transport first since attack helicopters make a bigger dent in your team if you lose one.

Good luck and maybe we'll fly together some time.

[Ratface]

Start on muttrah by taking off and landing over and over and over and over, on flattop buildings, in roads, on uneven terrain, in small areas (like top tower of fortress), ect. The thing you need to get used to is hover drops, because most maps are not even like muttrah. To to a map like silent eagle and practice landing between trees and whatnot, and pretend ur getting aa locked while u do it

[Mr.Talala]

Thank you all for your advice and help, i did some training with a friend, and i just need a lil bit of work, but i'm not to bad, but again, thanks for all the advice and help

[Gracler]

A lot of practice on local servers or co-op is mandatory before trying it out on a Live server. Make sure you push yourself to the limit, not just making slow and safe descents, but rapid landing and take-off as if your life depended on it.

Then when you can handle your air-asset, without making stupid solo crashes then start doing the real thing.

Now a lot of demands will be put on you, but i wouldn't worry too much unless if you make solo accidents.

1. Keep you and your crew alive (obviously)
   Don't hover if it isn't necessary, and never land on a hill-top in enemy territory. Find a good "hole" to land in that gives the men cower when dismounting.
2. Asses your mission before take-off (is it worth the risk?)
   A lone sniper or engineer that jumps in and asks to be put in the middle of the enemy base is hardly worth the risk and isn't going to help the teamwork (only that persons K/D ratio)
   Sometimes even if you know that AA is in the area you may need to do a bold move when your team is bleeding tickets though.
3. Don't worry to much.Mainly if you get shot out of the sky I wouldn't worry too much even if a random guy says that your a fail pilot. If the enemy hadn't been reported in the area and it is the first helicopter you lose on that location to that enemy then it is part of the game being a pilot to be shot down. If you lose one chopper after another you might want to leave your piloting alone for a bit, and go chase whoever is killing you with some other means (good old fashion payback). If you make a solo crash that's another story .

[Wh33lman]

flying in Project Reality cannot be taught, it can only be learned. crash about a thousand aircraft and you start to get the hang of it.

and dont let anyone tell you its better to fly with a mouse/keyboard/joystick/whatever. you need to find out whats right for you by experementation. i use a gamepad and that works for me.

[myles]

On certian maps find the hotspots alot of people like to be transported to on muttrah The docks, on top of apartments, (DIFFCULT ONE) the moutnains overlooking the city and try these on CO-OP landing repetedly till you get it perfectley. If a squad asks you to fly to a certian place but you think its too hostile or too diffcult for you to land drop them where you feel is safe enough for you and the squad. When sitting at main always be looking at team chat or listining on SL radio mumble also be constantley looking at the map for AA markers and fob markers. Dont fly high or your an wasy target for AA try on flying alot lower that you would be used to its hard at first but over many crashes youll get the hang of it. If a squad wants an evac from a sloped surface try hover dont land or it could lead to a dangerous take off. Finally fly when your certian you can fly and are able to prevent any problems from happening. Good luck flying is very exhillrating in PR.

EDIT: Try start off with the Huey its the easiest Trans heli i find and landing it can really take arough hard landing but thats not saying you should land it hard.

[Ridge]

Another tip I forgot to mention.

When landing on slopes land with the nose of the heli pointing up the hill. Otherwise you could easily roll over. It also makes the takeoff easy.

Btw, Why does everyone hate joysticks?? I don't understand.

[Gracler]

Btw, Why does everyone hate joysticks?? I don't understand.

I don't hate joysticks.

I did have a problem controlling the throttle accurately until I customized my G15 keyboard LCD to show the actual Throttle percentage. Now i can keep it at exactly 50% which is =idle when using a helicopter for example.

I also use it sometimes for cruise control when driving Apc's etc. when i don't want to lose momentum going in rough terrain but at the same time not wanting to go full speed and inflict damage to the vehicle.
Also here 50% throttle = idle and if i want to stop instantly i switch seats if possible since it can be tricky to keep brake without going backwards after breaking. (for example when your gunner needs you to stop so he can shoot a target. This also helps to prevent sliding in some cases)

The joystick should have rudder control (twisting of the joystick or pedals) since it is very important when your landing (going slowly)

[Ridge]

The joystick should have rudder control (twisting of the joystick or pedals) since it is very important when your landing (going slowly)

I set the rudder controls to the buttons on the top of my joystick. It works perfectly for me. My left hand to look around using the NUM pad while flying and to control the throttle. And my right hand controls the roll, pitch, rudder, weapons, and I also have voip on a handle button too.