Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!

[Boris.T.Spider]

Solution is staring you right in the face, find some enemy, lure them into the woods, beast them in CQC, scopes for everybody!

[Rudd]

honestly I find that there is very little advantage in scopes on most militia maps, however I wouldn't be adverse to having scoped 74s as an option on the officer kit. There is some middle ground, it doesnt have to be 'BAM SCOPES EVERYWHERE' or 'BAM NO SCOPES'

though tbh I'm quite happy with having a sniper or marksman in my militia squad and everyone else with irons, if you play like a team with ironsights then you're fine.

if you play like a team with scopes, then you'll get creamed

stay to the forests/urban areas, don't engage accross long distances, if you are engaged over long distance then you should retreat and work up on them from a new direction etc.

[Truism]

P.S Militia - not only Chechen terroristic cell and FN FAL is not as Soviet gun as well.
Better idea - replace AKS-74U to standard AK-74.AKS-74U was not favorite gun in Russian army due characteristics.Chechen does not like this gun too(I never saw this gun,leader generally uses AKS-74 or modern AK-74(Brown plastic))

Probably already addressed, but the entire region is flooded with arms, for example tonnes of Enfield No.4's. There was a long discussion about it a few years back.

PS. Give militia officer back the SVD.

[dtacs]

Militia Officer had an SVD? Which version?

[Wakain]

Yes! Throw more scopes in there! Just more fodder to kill in CQB

you stilll need to get close

[Truism]

Militia Officer had an SVD? Which version?

First version they were introduced. 0.5 or 0.6 from memory?

[hanadul44]

stay to the forests/urban areas, don't engage accross long distances, if you are engaged over long distance then you should retreat and work up on them from a new direction etc.

Your tactics are useful in INS mode, if you defend hiding. But the Militia plays AAS, that means you have to attack enemy flags and kill enemie forces, since you can not wait for the enemy in the wforest or Buildings!
An AK74 Scope would warm our hearts once again, those who prefer Iron Sights can take Iron Sight!

thx and peace

[Bellator]

No scoped Ak 74s. I always thought they were rather out of place.

Perhaps a scoped rifle of some other kind, like G3. That is, for the squad leader only.

[hanadul44]

In real life - some conventional factions got no scopes or this scopes very rare.For example - in Russian army scope very rare,majority got ironsights.IDF got to much unscoped weapons(Some unitis uses TAR-21,but also not everyones,mostly uses old M16/M4),MEC(If it means Iran) - scopes got only some NCO.
And why you think thats militia should be have scopes,if soviet army doesn't uses scopes.

My God!
You contradict yourself, it is clear that the equipment is different in the PR as the Realife and not exact.No need to remove the AKM 74 Scope. Marksman and Sniper are not a solution, because they have her own area of responsibility

In your opinion, you'd have to remove all of the MEC Scopes take out the Havoc, replace the BMP3 by BMP1 and BDM. The Israelis with weapons of Hamas fitting out. and and and.


I dont understand your problem, if you prefer Iron Sight, then use right click, and your problem is solved.

Militia takes over once the role of a conventional army, and I recognize the lack of Scope as Militia player. It's like USA against MEC without Scope!


I say it again and again
Squadleader: FN FAL or AKs or what ever on right click | AK74 Scope on left click
Standart Rifleman: Ak47 or 74 what ever on right click | AK 74 Scope on left click

Your Mission in AAS is not to defending Forests or Buildings, it is a AAS mode, your job is to attack enemies in all kind of distanc. Play more Militia Maps and you will notice that probem.
Sure, in Urban terrain i also use Ironsights, but not really in Forest with large Mountains and Valleys.

Greetings

[samogon100500]

In your opinion, you'd have to remove all of the MEC Scopes take out the Havoc, replace the BMP3 by BMP1 and BDM. The Israelis with weapons of Hamas fitting out. and and and.

I will be happy if they does.No more rambo-style.To win you needs to full interact between vehicle and infantry.Hardcore - I like it.
P.S - if you want that - put 1 generation AH-1 and a lot AKMs for them.

P.P.S wtf is BDM?

Your Mission in AAS is not to defending Forests or Buildings, it is a AAS mode, your job is to attack enemies in all kind of distanc. Play more Militia Maps and you will notice that probem.
Sure, in Urban terrain i also use Ironsights, but not really in Forest with large Mountains and Valleys.

Playing militia maps since v 0.8. Did you know,what 3d models uses there?Shooting more that 30m useless because 3d model issued don't allow to shoot longer that this distance.
How almost every day playing 1 militia map(Fools road or Ochimachira generally,sometimes Dragon Fly and Kozelsk),I we got all chances to win.

[ComradeHX]

Best solution:

Russian-style parallel ambush.

[Arc_Shielder]

What Rudd means is that there's enough cover for you to defend and attack. I remember the last time I played Fools Road, this idiotic squad went to a slope and engaged the brits holding the mansions (or wtv the hell is called). They were being revived over and over by a very patient medic and costing us tickets dearly. At this point my SL (who was Oskar I believe) drove us away from that dumb event and guided us stealthily into the compound.

You have more than cover to defend and assault and many of the reasons I see pointed out are due to dumbness or laziness. There are a couple exceptions like the NW fields in Dragon Fly who are rightly justified and I will give you that, but it doesn't justify giving more scopes just because generally you don't move where there's trees or not engaging the enemy in stupid situations. The SL is fine as it is, give him a scope and he'll be pressured to hit targets rather than leading.

[Bellator]

MEC(If it means Iran)

It doesn't.

[General Dragosh]

By my fair opinion Militia should have a ak74 with a scope as a right click request

Why ?

Because thats logical, if the militia has so many Rus equipment its logical that they have some scopes for assault rifles like a PSO(odd example) for a AK74

They have old tanks and old everything but its not as if the scopes are THAT rare, this aint WW2 duh =P

Nowdays you could buy easly from the interwebs (the most retarded example of all times, but it works)

Militia is still much less effectively equipped than any other regular army, i can see why taliban or insurgents shouldn't have scopes but not militia.

Militia is better equipped than Taliban/insurgents but less equipped than a regular army

+ PR is kinda set in near future so why not use this as a valid argument to add some scopes =D

[Bellator]

Because thats logical,

It isn't for reasons stated in this thread.

[KeksTerror]

It isn't for reasons stated in this thread.

Mhmm :

I can not recognize them. Perhaps you may explain your opinion a bit more detailed.

[ShockUnitBlack]

My standing is they are the only AAS faction without scopes. They should have scopes.

[Bringerof_D]

The thing is they are not a conventional army, it hasn't been that long since optics have become standard in forces as such so I see no need to give them to them apart from Squad leaders, marksman etc.

However recent that may be is irrelevant. Today anyone can go into a military surplus store and purchase a hunting scope. and let's face it for militia types whom i would assume consists of mostly common folk in areas where factory or other industrial work being the norm, would have the ability to Mcguyver a mount for it. Hell i can get a 3 or 4x scope at Canadian tire for under 30 bucks. A nice Bushnell 3-9x at the same store for around 150.

i agree with op, give the militia some form of scope, limited of course, not on spawn menu, request from crates, 20 available for team, limit of 10-12 on field at any given time, cool down time TBD. scope specs:

model: non military scope (some cheap hunting scope) with either after market AK mount or crappy self rig. (4x20mm scope?)
- 3/4x zoom
- Low FOV due to smaller diameter.

If the devs want to give this back to the militia, i'd be willing to make the model and textures for the cheap scope and mount. I'd just need the original AK model and textures. It'll be good practice for me.

[ComradeHX]

Indeed, if they can make this:


They can put a scope on it to make it more tactical...(I think that metal tube was a suppressor, LOL).

[hanadul44]

right
I would be happy if the DEV's comment on or give a suggestion.

as I said. should the scope surpass the logic of militia, then you can limit it;
Give the Squad Leader and a Rifleman Scope. (Rightclick ironsight)
All other limited kits can be as before.
Thus, players must decide between special kit without scope or standard kit with scope,
also should be free for anti Scope fetishists to use with right click Iron Sight

However, Milita need a Scope weapon and that dont means MARKSMAN or Sniper because Sniper or Marksman are no Rifleman.