Mi28

simeon5541 · Post by **simeon5541** » 2011-06-29 21:14

Why there is a still Mi28 on MEC side although there is no ME country in the world that uses it ?
Would be there a replacement with Mi24-25-35 anytime soon ?
I really like Havoc but Mi24 is most commonly used attack heli in the world and on ME.
Also there are three different models available for PR team.

Brainlaag · Post by **Brainlaag** » 2011-06-29 21:49

simeon5541 wrote:Why there is a still Mi28 on MEC side although there is no ME country in the world that uses it ?
Would be there a replacement with Mi24-25-35 anytime soon ?
I really like Havoc but Mi24 is most commonly used attack heli in the world and on ME.
Also there are three different models available for PR team.

Because MEC is a fictional faction, thus they could also use AT-ATs from starwars if the DEVs wanted that

Also many Middle eastern countries are using Cobras, AH-64 Apaches and other western choppers. IMO it makes sense that they are using the Havoc as replacement so that people don't confuse the two factions.

Operator009 · Post by **Operator009** » 2011-06-30 00:23

Brainlaag wrote:Because MEC is a fictional faction, thus they could also use AT-ATs from starwars if the DEVs wanted that

How'd you know what was in 1.0?!

Post by **Rudd** » 2011-06-30 00:32

How'd you know what was in 1.0?!

****...I think there is a leak in the team

Also there are three different models available for PR team.

not sure what ya mean here mate, the mi28, the SF mi24 and...?

We do take some liberties when it comes to the MEC attack chopper, e.g. iirc it can't even use AA missiles?

I kinda like the mi24 as a choice also, but it doesnt matter too much since its a fictional nation.

Thanks for the feedback

Brainlaag · Post by **Brainlaag** » 2011-06-30 07:03

Talking about AT-ATs and AT-ST, suggestion anyone

samogon100500 · Post by **samogon100500** » 2011-06-30 07:15

Version such as Mi24VM(but Export version) would be awesome.

Zemciugas · Post by **Zemciugas** » 2011-06-30 07:38

Mi24 would definately be awesome, could transport full squads aswell

And I don't think I have ever seen a mi24 in Pr, would definately be more awesome and keep the mi28 for Russians.

samogon100500 · Post by **samogon100500** » 2011-06-30 07:45

Zemciugas wrote:Mi24 would definately be awesome, could transport full squads aswell And I don't think I have ever seen a mi24 in Pr, would definately be more awesome and keep the mi28 for Russians.

Weapon and cargo is to heavy for them.They can do that,but this is not recommended.

Doc.Pock · Post by **Doc.Pock** » 2011-07-02 07:55

we could have 2 versions 1 like bc2 with a cannon and able to transport a full sq and one with all weapos and myb able for 3 ppl trans

ShavedAlpaca · Post by **ShavedAlpaca** » 2011-07-02 15:32

If the mi-24 hind is ever going to be in PR ,its awesome ability to chop off its tail won't be incorporated I presume

TheComedian · Post by **TheComedian** » 2011-07-02 17:45

samogon100500 wrote:Weapon and cargo is to heavy for them.They can do that,but this is not recommended.

Its a russian machine ofcourse it can do it.

Mi24 would make the mec team OP because they would have a squad transport with guns. Like mech inf but with choppers.

simeon5541 · Post by **simeon5541** » 2011-07-04 00:28

Brainlaag wrote:Because MEC is a fictional faction

They are Middle Eastern Coalition, not Milky Way Coalition,
and they should use what they use in reality.
I also must add information that I have found out,
that Mi24 is operated by 3 persons.

Post by **Rudd** » 2011-07-04 00:30

that Mi24 is operated by 3 persons.

what does the third person do? some kind of crew chief?

Brainlaag · Post by **Brainlaag** » 2011-07-04 11:36

[R-DEV]Rudd wrote:what does the third person do? some kind of crew chief?

Do gunners count as necessary crew? If so BH need 4 to be appropriately operated

samogon100500 · Post by **samogon100500** » 2011-07-05 17:54

TheComedian wrote:Its a russian machine ofcourse it can do it.

Mi24 would make the mec team OP because they would have a squad transport with guns. Like mech inf but with choppers.

They can,but pilot don't like it.
Normal lift weight for them 1500kgs,maximal - 2400(They can take off like jet uses runway).
All what i means it about Mi24V
Well:
1500kg fuel
900-1200kg - 80 S8 rockets(For different versions)
~120kg - 4 Shturm-V missiles.
~50-60kg - Machinegun ammo.
+crew
Well with this they pretty maneuvererble,if give them a 8 mans infantry they can fly like a stone.

Bob of Mage · Post by **Bob of Mage** » 2011-07-07 02:53

The Hind should be added for the MEC, Militia and maybe Russians. The MEC and Russians should still use the Havoc, but on some maps where there is no Apache or Cobra to balance against it could add a new layer of combat. Jabal might be more intresting if on one layer the MEC had a Hind. The Russians could use it on some of the maps where they fight the Militia. If the Militia had the option of air power it would really change the way some maps are played!

In addition the MEC really need some NATO vehicles in it's armoury. In real life parts of the Mid. East are flooded with NATO vehicles from M113s to Cobras, but not a one is in PR! With the addition of the Russians to PR the MEC seems like a poor clone when it comes to vehicles. It's time to move on and make the MEC a more unique faction!

simeon5541 · Post by **simeon5541** » 2011-07-07 19:30

[R-DEV]Rudd wrote:what does the third person do? some kind of crew chief?

Maybe he is wiping floor in the cargo area XD !!

samogon100500 · Post by **samogon100500** » 2011-07-07 19:50

Bob of Mage wrote:The Hind should be added for the MEC, Militia and maybe Russians. The MEC and Russians should still use the Havoc, but on some maps where there is no Apache or Cobra to balance against it could add a new layer of combat. Jabal might be more intresting if on one layer the MEC had a Hind. The Russians could use it on some of the maps where they fight the Militia. If the Militia had the option of air power it would really change the way some maps are played!

First - Mi24 got to many versions,last ones exported and got same weapon and electronics as Mi28.
Second - Militia would never have a choppers I thing.If you can hide vehicle like BRDM or BMP,choppers can do same,they need good landing zone and needed service.Oh of course - thats good target for UAV and with poor militia AA system(I means long range systems) they can fly everywhere.
Third - in Russia Mi24 still mass chopper in army and air forces.And almost every version can carry AA missiles.

Bob of Mage wrote:In addition the MEC really need some NATO vehicles in it's armoury. In real life parts of the Mid. East are flooded with NATO vehicles from M113s to Cobras, but not a one is in PR! With the addition of the Russians to PR the MEC seems like a poor clone when it comes to vehicles. It's time to move on and make the MEC a more unique faction!

Thats not make it unique thats make it like this.

simeon5541 · Post by **simeon5541** » 2011-07-07 20:26

Bob of Mage wrote:The Hind should be added for the MEC, Militia and maybe Russians.
In addition the MEC really need some NATO vehicles in it's armoury. In real life parts of the Mid. East are flooded with NATO vehicles from M113s to Cobras, but not a one is in PR! With the addition of the Russians to PR the MEC seems like a poor clone when it comes to vehicles. It's time to move on and make the MEC a more unique faction!

Hind to militia ? No , that is more like BF2 SF scenario ,
but Cobra for MEC is nice idea !!

I think that is good idea for MEC to use NATO weapons and vehicles that they use in real life.
Also their countries are making their own unique weapons :

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