Whino needs an upgrade

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TeRR0R
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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*NwA*Orford wrote:Also you talk of a SSD the Intel last alot longer before they start to slow down the OCZ are faster but only for 3 months then they slow right down and need a reformat. The intel manages the memory and files alot better and stay fast for longer.
So true! That's why i still prefer intel.
They just don't get slower over time.
Don't get blinded by high numbers on the paper.
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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Looking at this again now.
*NwA*Orford wrote:Just to add the I7 26000k can easy to 4ghz on air and 4.5ghz with the H70. If your doing modeling and mapping then overclocking is a option. Also you talk of a SSD the Intel last alot longer before they start to slow down the OCZ are faster but only for 3 months then they slow right down and need a reformat. The intel manages the memory and files alot better and stay fast for longer.

Have a look at the overclockers.co.uk forum and you will see alot of info on the OCZ and how its slows down very quickly in a short time. Cheap and fast but not for long.

esp this thread.

Thinking of buying a OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" SATA-3 SSD - Overclockers UK Forums

I use a Intel 80gb SSD and its still as fast as the day i bought it 16 months ago.
In that topic you've linked to everyone in there is talking about the old OCZ drives, not about the new one.

I've been reading up on a few reviews of this drive and most of them are saying that it looks to not slow down much over time like the old ones: OCZ Agility 3 240GB SSD Review - Post Testing ATTO

Although one thing many of the reviews have brought up is that while this drive dose excellent with simple and average tasks, doing really advanced stuff (like what I'm getting it for) it seems to fall down a bit compared to the Vertex 3 and other drives although they cost a lot more for the same speeds.

I also noticed in this review here that this drive doesn't come with a 2.5" to 3.5" drive bay converter, I take it that I need one for my case? CM Stacker 830 SE - Cooler Master - Leading Provider of Computer Case | Cooler | Power Supply

Will this one here do the job? Kingston 2.5" to 3.5" Hard Drive Bracket and.. | Ebuyer.com



I'm slightly tempted in getting the Vertex 3 instead as in many of the reviews it saying it can perform better under pressure but I'm not sure if its really worth the extra ?40..., even thou it comes with a 2.5" to 3.5" drive bay converter :p
OCZ 120GB Vertex 3 SSD 2.5" SATA-III 6Gb/s Read.. | Ebuyer.com



Also anyone got any thoughts on getting Win7 from this place? Microsoft Windows 7 Pro DVD 32bit/64bit

Cheers :)
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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Ed, if your after an SSD let me know, I can get them cheap ........ pm stigger for a review he has one I supplied.



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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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if you know any one in full time education then go to software for students big discounts for students all types of software. SoftwareForStudents.co.uk: Find Your Cheapest Online Student Software Store EDIT: looks like that site is broken. I got win 7 64bit for ?45 when it was on offer.

The Vertex dose seam to be better for what you need. I'd go with UK_Force as he knows alot more than me and works with the gear all day.
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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I have the OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" SATA-3 SSD myself.

yep its shit!!!!

ye it might have a read speed of 525MB/sec
and a write speed of 475MB/sec

But that doesnt last long atal, I have had many troubles with it. So shortly mine is going on Ebay.
Then hopefully will be getting a Corsair Force Series 3 120GB Link
Or can anyone show me better with roughly the same price?
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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rgr Craig will do.
Mad-Mike wrote:I have the OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" SATA-3 SSD myself.

yep its shit!!!!

ye it might have a read speed of 525MB/sec
and a write speed of 475MB/sec

But that doesnt last long atal, I have had many troubles with it so shortly mine is going on Ebay.
Interesting cheers, how long have you had it for btw?


Mad-Mike wrote:Then hopefully will be getting a Corsair Force Series 3 120GB Link
Or can anyone show me better with roughly the same price?
That was also the one I was originally looking at until Terror posted this, and then a few days after that post Ebuyer even withdrew the HDD from there site :p
TeRR0R wrote:But watch out with your selected SSD. It might be a fail drive:

Corsair Force Series 3 SSD Issue Resolution: Drive Return Procedure - The Corsair Support Forums

(there is a huge problem with SSD drives from various manufacturers using the Sandforce SF-2200 controller!)

EDIT: also Mike, are you running TRIM on your system?
No, it's embedded in the OS, but only Vista and Windows 7.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM

Edit: Also make sure you set your harddrives to AHCI mode (rather than IDE) in the BIOS for TRIM to operate. You do this just before you install your OS on your SSD.
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Mad-Mike
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[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:rgr Craig will do.

Interesting cheers, how long have you had it for btw?


That was also the one I was originally looking at until Terror posted this, and then a few days after that post Ebuyer even withdrew the HDD from there site :p


EDIT: also Mike, are you running TRIM on your system?
I have had mine since the 28/05/2011, well that was the delivery date, So lets say I have had it installed on the 01/06/2011. So about a month.
And yes I did run it in TRIM.

Thanks for the heads up on the corsair force series 3 Rhino and Terror, I would of wasted my money twice on a SSD.

Now need another SSD lmfao. :? :
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Mike.... Remember when I advised you about SSD's, hate to say I told you so but you should have come to me pal
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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Speaking of failing parts...

I would recommend sticking with Corsair RAM. They have a lifetime warranty. I've had to replace a couple modules and it was pretty easy. Mailed them in with RMA and got new ones in the mail in about 2 weeks.
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[R-DEV]UK_Force wrote:Mike.... Remember when I advised you about SSD's, hate to say I told you so but you should have come to me pal
I did come to you craig, But u never got back to me. It was only Aimed you got back to. :?

EDIT:SnipeHunt.. Yep I got Corsair Dominator RAM and it has lifetime warranty.
TeRR0R
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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No, it's embedded in the OS, but only Vista and Windows 7.

TRIM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edit: Also make sure you set your harddrives to AHCI mode (rather than IDE) in the BIOS for TRIM to operate. You do this just before you install your OS on your SSD.

Wrong. TRIM works in IDE mode as well!
(but only with the Microsoft default IDE driver!)
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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TeRR0R wrote:Wrong. TRIM works in IDE mode as well!
(but only with the Microsoft default IDE driver!)
It was in quotes since I quoted it from some guy on another site :p
Alson what's wrong with that statement (according to another guy on that site I got that quote from) is that Vista dose not support TRIM if you really want to point out all the faults....

Also this review shows even really poor results for the Vertex 3 which I was thinking of getting instead of the Agility 3 which in some reviews said was better, but appears not so...
AnandTech - OCZ Vertex 3 MAX IOPS & Patriot Wildfire SSDs Reviewed

This is starting to get really depressing as every drive which looks to have good specs just turns to **** once you take a much closer look...

Is there any SSD out there with fast read/write times, that will not die over time and is at a good price?
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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It is for me now, dont want to be wasting my money again on a SSD.

Anyone know anything about the Corsair F120 ? Link.
Or
Intel 320 series ? Link.

Edit: Just seen the corsair F120 uses the Sandforce controller :(
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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Em, I guess the new ones Corsair SSD's are good to go, but not sure if they still use Sandforce. BTW there was an issue with Sandforce controller but Corsair said that you can send it to them and we will give you new one - fixed version.

Anyway what I read about Intel and Corsair SSD's are the most stable (maybe I'm wrong).
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Em, I guess the new ones Corsair SSD's are good to go, but not sure if they still use Sandforce. BTW there was an issue with Sandforce controller but Corsair said that you can send it to them and we will give you new one - fixed version.

Anyway what I read about Intel and Corsair SSD's are the most stable (maybe I'm wrong).
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TeRR0R
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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[R-DEV]Rhino wrote: This is starting to get really depressing as every drive which looks to have good specs just turns to **** once you take a much closer look...

Is there any SSD out there with fast read/write times, that will not die over time and is at a good price?
Like I always said, go for Intel 320 Series. Very reliable, 5 years warranty and it don't get slower over time or when it's almost full.
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:This is starting to get really depressing as every drive which looks to have good specs just turns to **** once you take a much closer look...

Is there any SSD out there with fast read/write times, that will not die over time and is at a good price?
As usual, you can choose 2: cheap, fast and high quality.


Intel has been a really solid SSD performer, I haven't taken a strong look at the 320 series but it's worth a more research.
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino;1620989']Also this review shows even really poor results for the Vertex 3 which I was thinking of getting instead of the Agility 3 which in some reviews said was better, but appears not so...
AnandTech - OCZ Vertex 3 MAX IOPS & Patriot Wildfire SSDs Reviewed
You should note that Vertex 3 MAX IOPs is different from Vertex 3 (They use different die size NAND controllers). This is the review you should be looking at for regular vertex 3 - AnandTech - The OCZ Vertex 3 Review (120GB)


After doing a bunch more research, I think this is the answer to your question Rhino: There are no fast drives at a good price. Drive slowdown over time is limited with the reliable names (Intel, Crucial), but any drive under 256 GB loses data speed pretty linearly with drive size (i.e. the 128 GB drives are 50% slower), and they're all expensive as ****.
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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What would you all suggest is the best SSD, value for money wise? No budget limit but the cheaper the better and not really looking for anything that is going to deteriorate over time.

Would like as many people to chip in here with what they think is best, even if its been suggested :)

Cheers! :D
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Mad-Mike
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Re: Whino needs an upgrade

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I +1 what rhino said.

All though half of me is going for the intel 320 series, just doing abit more research on it first though.
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