Video Settings (Immersion Vs Exploit)

[havoc1482]

I do. I'm just saying that running a medium computer is not that expensive if running a high end doesn't cost that much. Most people just don't do their research and don't bother to built their own rigs so they end up wasting huge amounts of cash.

[Ridge]

Thinking about building a computer but not sure how expensive or how complicated it would be to build a good computer. My last computer could run it on high but it started shutting off every time you play something like a game or video. We think its the processor going out on it.

[killonsight95]

$800/?500 is expensive, A lot of people just don't have that kind of money especcially when we have a lot of outcome. For example i'm only 16 and this is something like my income/outcome rates weekly:
Income: ?30

outcome: 15
?10 - rent
?5 - other shit I might want.

Savings: 15
?10 - General saving
?5 - rainy day savings

I guess i could use the general savings for the computer but that would take a whole year and usually i use that for saving for short term items such as clothes, drink, books, games, teenager things etc.

So actually for a student at least $800 or ?500 is expensive, also a lot of students don't have jobs, and if they do they mgiht not even get what i get a week.

? = pounds



As for building a computer..... if you build a computer you will instantly gaina lot of undertsanding from it and how the computer works etc.
Also to build one it is very easy and 90% of the time cheaper than buying a computer, of course depending on the parts etc.

[Psyrus]

$800/?500 is expensive, A lot of people just don't have that kind of money especcially when we have a lot of outcome. For example i'm only 16 and this is something like my income/outcome rates weekly

I guess i could use the general savings for the computer but that would take a whole year and usually i use that for saving for short term items such as clothes, drink, books, games, teenager things etc.

So actually for a student at least $800 or ?500 is expensive, also a lot of students don't have jobs, and if they do they mgiht not even get what i get a week.

That's a quick throw-together that's under the 500 pound limit and is, imo, a great gamer PC. The PSU/Case could be better but on a tight budget you can't go super premium on those items, so I went for low end stuff that has good (for the price) reviews.

And as he said, you work up to stuff... especially when you get into a nice incremental upgrade cycle.

Of course, if the person (you/others) had a decent case/PSU already, that would shave 90 pounds off the price. The first order of business would be the graphics card as they can usually be used in current setups (unless you have uber old hardware that can't support PCI-E), followed by the PSU. You'd obviously reverse this if the old PSU is total PoS, but in my case that's never been an issue. You then have to save for the case, chuck it all in there, and then finally start getting ready to drop the big 175 pounds on the cpu+mobo+ram combo.

This is what I've done since I was ~16 and had my first odd-jobs.



Rather than blow a bunch of money every 2-3 years, incremental upgrades (about $250-500 per year) will keep virtually any computer at the top of its game indefinitely. This is especially true if you splurge on a good case/psu/peripheral set right at the start, as they don't change while the components are upgraded.

[havoc1482]

So actually for a student at least $800 or ?500 is expensive, also a lot of students don't have jobs, and if they do they mgiht not even get what i get a week.

I'm 17 and I paid for it from working on a tobacco farm. I also bought myself a 1978 Pontiac Phoenix using earned money and some savings. And Like I said and what Psyrus, you do not have to buy it all at once. Spend a small amount in what ever timeframe you choose to get their. (I did it for my computer and parts for my car)

My brother is 22 and has to pay college loans, car insurance, gas, misc. expenses, ect. and he bought his and it a little better than mine. (Having a x6 instead of a x4, more RAM, bigger PSU[850W])

Thinking about building a computer but not sure how expensive or how complicated it would be to build a good computer. My last computer could run it on high but it started shutting off every time you play something like a game or video. We think its the processor going out on it.

Building a computer is ridiculously easy, you'll be dumbfounded. It is mostly just screwing/popping parts into place and connecting them all up. The only thing you gotta really do is make sure you are grounded. That can be achieved by getting a PSU with a I/O switch and leave it plugged in but off (but installed in the case obviously), you just have to touch the PSU or case to discharge your static build-up every time you go to touch a part. Alternatively you can spend $20 and get an anti static wrist band which has an alligator clip to attach to an object that is grounded. Not sure about Euro plugs but, in America it would be anything plugged in that has the third prong.

[Robskie]

Defintely think some renderings should render for EVERYONE, regardless of their situation. Save up than, it's been quite a few years since BF2 came out, I've got a crappy HP laptop and I risk burning down the house playing PR, but I do it

Grass, and other renderings for cover, that obscure view and things should render the same for everyone, so we don't get ****** bags exploiting it.

[ReCon0G]

What settings would I be able to run project reality on a:

CPU: Intel Pentium D Dual Core 3.0GHz
4MB L2 Cache
800MHz FSB
64-bit Technology
Memory: 3GB DDR2
Graphics card: ATI 4350 HD 512 mb

[killonsight95]

havoc how much do you earn a week? working on a tobbaco farm is all well and good, but i bet you get paid double what i get paid in a small hotel on the edge of my town which is about the only around these days.
Your bro is 22 with a college degree he should be earning a lot of money, if he isn't thne he's doing it wrong.
But still stating your circumstances against others is not going to help because a lot of people, the UK and europe have trouble finding jobs at the moment and even if they do get one, the pay might not be all that good.

[havoc1482]

havoc how much do you earn a week? working on a tobbaco farm is all well and good, but i bet you get paid double what i get paid in a small hotel on the edge of my town which is about the only around these days.
Your bro is 22 with a college degree he should be earning a lot of money, if he isn't thne he's doing it wrong.
But still stating your circumstances against others is not going to help because a lot of people, the UK and europe have trouble finding jobs at the moment and even if they do get one, the pay might not be all that good.

I get paid about $9 an hour. My bro gets paid $14. The point of my post was not about how much money I make. It was to point out that a computer isn't an end-all expense regardless of income. That guy was saying that it would run him into the ground to get a new computer. A little over the top? I think so.

[Robskie]

Lol starve myself for a week, I think so too.

[zouloum]

Would it not be possible for the PR.exe to ensure that the video.con file is set at a specific level? And either overwrite or deny game run if unable.

it woulnt be fair for people that have sucky computers

[Brainlaag]

it woulnt be fair for people that have sucky computers

Many have stated you don't have to spend millions on upgrading your PC which could lead to a very increased performance.

[havoc1482]

Many have stated you don't have to spend millions on upgrading your PC which could lead to a very increased performance.

To add to that; since the game is old enough that If you cannot run it on at least medium settings then your computer is old and an upgrade would be overall beneficial.

[Mikemonster]

I'm tempted to agree.. But I live in the first world so it's not really fair on some other guys.

Spent 400GBP on my PC tower 4 years ago, and only upgrade since has been a new graphics card that I recently bought for 55GBP. And some more hard-drives that weren't performance related.

FYI I have a 3.4 Dual-Core and an ATI4850 1GB. And run maxed on 1920x1200.

Minimum wage job and paying rent/bills etc.

[BrownBadger]

I can't play higher than on the lowest graphics settings, and even then I lag when there are lots of trees and/or fields. Even though on lowest graphics you do see a lot of edges poking out of where they shouldn't be and that way being able to see what you normally wouldn't, but you can't actually see through leaves or trees well. At long range, the textures for leaves turn into a big blob of blur and anybody can hide there.

[KaizerSosa81]

Getting a medium end PC is not over overwhelmingly expensive. Do some research.

I run a GTX460
4GB RAM.
1TB HD.
i5 x4 Processor
A 650W PSU.
An ASUS MotherBoard.
Plus a Thermaltake case.
Only cost me about $800 all together. (You don't have to buy it all at once, you can work your way to it easily)

The GTX460 is a high-end GPU in the 400 Series. You can get the entry level or lower series card and just overclock it. To add to that my GPU is an EVGA brand, meaning expensive compared to others.

The Hard drive and CD drive you can cannibalize from your old computer as well, saving more money. (Hell, you might even be able to use the old case too)
newegg.com is your friend

And frankly, if you are that low on cash that you would starve your family for a week from a new computer you shouldn't even be on the computer; cut the internet bill and the electricity bill.

Well I am already working on a new rig (mainly to run Red Orchestra Heroes of Stalingrad) but I unfortunately will not have it any time soon. I'm looking at end/turn of the year quite honestly.

So in the mean time, I obviously have to play PR as is for the moment and that is a mix of low/med.

Oh, and the "starving family" is a general statement. I'm paying off a house, bills, insurance, schooling so yeah I'm not just going to trip over and land on $800+ to solely spend on gaming in one shot.

Would it not be possible for the PR.exe to ensure that the video.con file is set at a specific level? And either overwrite or deny game run if unable.

If you did that Boris I wouldn't have the privilege to squad up and run around with you and Boston Bob on random occasions. Unless medium becomes minimal.

But still, that wouldn't be fair.

[Cassius]

A computer that runs PR maxed out is not expensive. I understand some people lack even the 80-300 Euros it would take to upgrade, but how many is that? Sactifice a few weekends do not play on low and you have your rig to play on high. I got everything new except for the case which I kept and the graficcard which I got on ebay and spent a little over 300 total. Somebody who has something better than a Pentium 4 should be able to upgrade with less.