Buying a computer, not parts, help.

kuratomi1950 · Post by **kuratomi1950** » 2011-08-02 15:53

So i live in a county wher getting parts is hard as ***** and you will abrely find em as this country is not as modern as others, still i am actually thinking of buying a gaming desktop computer which ive been searching for the last months, and i found quite a nice ones on newegg and amazon i will post the spec and i would like you guys to tell me which one is better and which one would you guys suggest, or if not, can you guys suggest a better one please?

I would like it to run upcoming games all on high, with directx 11.

First Computer:
Intel Core i7 960(3.20GHz) 12GB DDR3 2TB HDD Capacity NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

Second Computer:
Intel i7 2600K processor 3.4
24X DL DVD+/-RW Drive
1 TB Hard Drive, 4 GB DDR3 RAM
NVIDIA GTX460 2GB (HDMI)graphics
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium

Third Computer: a little to expensive, trying to go below a 1000 dollars to avoid taxes but still ama show its specs.
Intel Core i7 950, 12GB DDR3/1333, 2TB Hard Drive SATAII, 24XDVD-RW, Nvidia Geforce N560GTX 1GB GDDR5 Video Card, 700 Watt PS, Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full Version CD - 64 bit

Fourth Computer: Also expensive but worth showing.

Intel 3.4GHz i7 2600K Processor, 12GB DDR3/1333, 2TB SATAII, Blu-Ray Reader, Radeon HD 6970 2GB GDDR5 Video Card, 700 Watt PS, Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full Version CD - 64 bit.

Thanks for your help guys.

Post by **Psyrus** » 2011-08-02 16:16

First computer, by a considerable margin.

Pedz · Post by **Pedz** » 2011-08-02 16:33

If you can, make the first one cheaper by getting a maximum of 8GB ram (probably 6GB due to the triple channel, you will not use any more than that in games..)

Also an I7 is overkill for games too, try an i5-2500k if you can find one. But definity a Nvidia 500 series if you;re going with nvidia cards, the 400 series ran quite warm...

kuratomi1950 · Post by **kuratomi1950** » 2011-08-02 16:35

HEY thanks alot for your fast response i just found another computer which i would like to show the specs, its also alot cheaper but has less ram, what i like about the first one is the 12 gb ram ddr3, which is just neat, but look at the specs of the following and tell me what you think.

Phenom II X6 1100T(3.3GHz) 8GB DDR3 2TB HDD Capacity NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

its ALOT cheaper than the other computers, but it has less ram.

here is the link:

Newegg.com - Open Box: iBUYPOWER Gamer Supreme 555SLC Desktop PC Phenom II X6 1100T(3.3GHz) 8GB DDR3 2TB HDD Capacity NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

kuratomi1950 · Post by **kuratomi1950** » 2011-08-02 16:36

Pedz wrote:If you can, make the first one cheaper by getting a maximum of 8GB ram (probably 6GB due to the triple channel, you will not use any more than that in games..)

Also an I7 is overkill for games too, try an i5-2500k if you can find one. But definity a Nvidia 500 series if you;re going with nvidia cards, the 400 series ran quite warm...

by overkill you mean? I am sorry just i am just of a young age and english isnt my first, so forgive me if theres a few mistakes (btw i ussually dont type this formally, but if i want help i might as well just search it in a nice way

) been searching for a computer quite a while. Thanks for your help.

Mad-Mike · Post by **Mad-Mike** » 2011-08-02 16:39

Indeed go for the 1st computer mate, It will kick ***!
That i7 960 will be fast as fuck! You can throw everything at it!
The GTX 560 is a really good card, especialy for the price of it too. Getting another one in the future would be extreme aswell, Depending on mobo spec.

Post by **Psyrus** » 2011-08-02 17:07

kuratomi1950 wrote:its ALOT cheaper than the other computers, but it has less ram.

here is the link:

Newegg.com - Open Box: iBUYPOWER Gamer Supreme 555SLC Desktop PC Phenom II X6 1100T(3.3GHz) 8GB DDR3 2TB HDD Capacity NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

I would pick this one or the first one.

Basically:
First computer has more ram, better CPU (for most games, at least) but the graphics card is of lower power.

The AMD X6 processor is great but not on par with the i7, however it has the GTX570 which is considerably faster than the 560Ti.
GeForce GTX 560 Ti review BC2
GeForce GTX 560 Ti review MW2

I probably would go the X6 PC, since I like to do video encoding and stuff as well, but either of those two will be great gaming PCs.

kuratomi1950 · Post by **kuratomi1950** » 2011-08-02 17:48

Psyrus wrote:I would pick this one or the first one.

Basically:
First computer has more ram, better CPU (for most games, at least) but the graphics card is of lower power.

The AMD X6 processor is great but not on par with the i7, however it has the GTX570 which is considerably faster than the 560Ti.
GeForce GTX 560 Ti review BC2
GeForce GTX 560 Ti review MW2

I probably would go the X6 PC, since I like to do video encoding and stuff as well, but either of those two will be great gaming PCs.

the gtx 570 with the amd x6 with 3.3 Ghz and 8 gb of ram ddr3, or the gtx 560 with 12 gb of ram and the intel i7 processor with 3.2 Ghz.

Edit: Is the 12gb ram like will it have a big impact over 8?

what card or what specs would perform better?

kuratomi1950 · Post by **kuratomi1950** » 2011-08-02 19:45

i just read the over 6 gb of ram is more than enough, in the case of arma is that correct? just to fit my self with 8?

Post by **Psyrus** » 2011-08-03 04:58

kuratomi1950 wrote:the gtx 570 with the amd x6 with 3.3 Ghz and 8 gb of ram ddr3, or the gtx 560 with 12 gb of ram and the intel i7 processor with 3.2 Ghz.

Edit: Is the 12gb ram like will it have a big impact over 8?

what card or what specs would perform better?

kuratomi1950 wrote:i just read the over 6 gb of ram is more than enough, in the case of arma is that correct? just to fit my self with 8?

8GB of ram will be more than enough. The advantage of the 12GB ram is that you can create a ramdrive with it and load the most common arma stuff in there and mitigate the LOD popping apparently.

Of the two systems, I would say the x6+570 would have better frames per second overall, given the better graphics card. I believe it is cheaper as well, which makes it a very solid choice.

kuratomi1950 · Post by **kuratomi1950** » 2011-08-03 14:23

Psyrus wrote:8GB of ram will be more than enough. The advantage of the 12GB ram is that you can create a ramdrive with it and load the most common arma stuff in there and mitigate the LOD popping apparently.

Of the two systems, I would say the x6+570 would have better frames per second overall, given the better graphics card. I believe it is cheaper as well, which makes it a very solid choice.

Thanks psyrus for your continuos support and help, i already made my choice

Edit: (i said lock the thread, but i have now retracted) incase that the gtx570 is out of stock? (which it is now, but i am not buying now but later to see if it comes back)
which one should i go with? the first computer?

And for an ati card what would you guys recommend matching the 570 or atleast being awesome sauce to run latest game?

Pedz · Post by **Pedz** » 2011-08-03 17:43

kuratomi1950 wrote:Thanks psyrus for your continuos support and help, i already made my choice

Edit: (i said lock the thread, but i have now retracted) incase that the gtx570 is out of stock? (which it is now, but i am not buying now but later to see if it comes back)
which one should i go with? the first computer?

And for an ati card what would you guys recommend matching the 570 or atleast being awesome sauce to run latest game?

The AMD equivelent of the 570 is their top range card, the 6970 Radeon

Also what I meant by "overkill" is that it is more than you will ever need to use and is wasted money.

I agree with the others as well, the AMD processor may not be as good as the Intel i7 or i5, but it will still be great for gaming.

kuratomi1950 · Post by **kuratomi1950** » 2011-08-03 20:26

Pedz wrote:The AMD equivelent of the 570 is their top range card, the 6970 Radeon

Also what I meant by "overkill" is that it is more than you will ever need to use and is wasted money.

I agree with the others as well, the AMD processor may not be as good as the Intel i7 or i5, but it will still be great for gaming.

thanks, but unlucky for me 2 of the computers are out of stock -.-

kuratomi1950 · Post by **kuratomi1950** » 2011-08-03 20:39

is the ati 6750 any good?

or the 6770?

Pedz · Post by **Pedz** » 2011-08-03 21:35

kuratomi1950 wrote:is the ati 6750 any good?

or the 6770?

The 6770 is worse than an Nvidia 550 (which is bad for future gaming life as it is) in terms of performance and then the 6750 is worse again... If I were you I'd either wait or search a bit more for the Nvidia570/560/AMD6970 computers

Post by **Psyrus** » 2011-08-04 05:09

Pedz wrote:The 6770 is worse than an Nvidia 550 (which is bad for future gaming life as it is) in terms of performance and then the 6750 is worse again... If I were you I'd either wait or search a bit more for the Nvidia570/560/AMD6970 computers

Agreed. If you are spending ~$1000 on a computer (although I never count windows in the final price, so ~$1200 for windows inclusive), I feel that you shouldn't really be settling for anything less than the GTX560Ti in the following image

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