What is the point in Mumble?
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Who Dares Wins
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What is the point in Mumble?
Really? It's like finding VOIP on retail Battlefield. Maybe a quarter of people actually use it, even on servers where it is required I don't see anybody using anything but the In-Game Squad VOIP or not using anything at all. It was a pain in the arse for me to set up for various reasons and now I finally did it it's just pointless.
What was the point aside from being able to locally talk? Nobody seems to use it at all and it means I keep having to minimize and scroll through a dozen servers if I want to even bother using it.
What was the point aside from being able to locally talk? Nobody seems to use it at all and it means I keep having to minimize and scroll through a dozen servers if I want to even bother using it.
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mattnett1
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
I dont' know much... nor' do I use it... but I dont' find a GREAT point into it... But it kinda is good if you gotta newbie in your squad/team. But I use VOIP like every time i actually play. But I think Mumble is ok from reviews.
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Ratface
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
I find it easier when ur in armor squads and such because you aren't hogging up the comms in ur squad, ur only talking to ur driver/gunner/mg gunner (assuming they have voip), makes it a bit easier to know who is talking to who, again assuming ur squad has mumble
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Rudd
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
Inter-Squad teamwork
NOT INTRA-SQUAD TEAMWORK
its not about talking to your fellow squad mates (though its sometimes useful, e.g. in armour or when split from the squad formation)
its about talking to blues
Pre mumble intra squad teamwork was two squad leaders keeping their squads reasonably close, but you couldn't coordinate with a blue Automatic rifleman to suppress while you grenade, you couldn't get a blue medic to move somewhere to heal a friend.
Text was too clumsy - and I got sick of getting shot while typing
Yes, you could discuss a plan in detail with another squad leader via teamspeak
but what if 6 other SLs are on teamspeak?
what if they are trying to actually hear things while you are gabbling on?
with mumble you can have a quick walk to a friendly squad and coordinate with them, e.g. myself and Akiba on shija valley last weekend, we organised it so that he covered north and I covered south of our position, we were able to discuss exactly how to do this in practical terms
it is more realistic, more intuitive, more efficient coms wise and simply more fun imo.
NOT INTRA-SQUAD TEAMWORK
its not about talking to your fellow squad mates (though its sometimes useful, e.g. in armour or when split from the squad formation)
its about talking to blues
Pre mumble intra squad teamwork was two squad leaders keeping their squads reasonably close, but you couldn't coordinate with a blue Automatic rifleman to suppress while you grenade, you couldn't get a blue medic to move somewhere to heal a friend.
Text was too clumsy - and I got sick of getting shot while typing
Yes, you could discuss a plan in detail with another squad leader via teamspeak
but what if 6 other SLs are on teamspeak?
what if they are trying to actually hear things while you are gabbling on?
with mumble you can have a quick walk to a friendly squad and coordinate with them, e.g. myself and Akiba on shija valley last weekend, we organised it so that he covered north and I covered south of our position, we were able to discuss exactly how to do this in practical terms
it is more realistic, more intuitive, more efficient coms wise and simply more fun imo.
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Arnoldio
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
Its for people who get the point of it automatically, take it as good thing and don't rant about it.

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Oskar
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
To be more fair about the amount of people who currently use Mumble, there's definitely more of them now than before. Servers like Tactical Gamer, NwA, PRTA, and many others have quite a lot of mumble users, enough for it to be worth your while to have the program running.
Especially as a squad leader. I'd much rather alt tab to get in the right channel ONCE than have to type, type, type and type...to get stuff done or said.
What the advantages are? Well, take 10 minutes and have a look around on these forums. There is plenty of information.
Especially as a squad leader. I'd much rather alt tab to get in the right channel ONCE than have to type, type, type and type...to get stuff done or said.
What the advantages are? Well, take 10 minutes and have a look around on these forums. There is plenty of information.
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Xander[nl]
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
There is nothing as cool as a good round on NwA with everyone on mumble. Crew members talk privately and don't screw up squad coms. Those same crew members manning important assets are on SL mumble and can be warned of threats in time.
Especially infantry / support vehicle coms are greatly increased. People whining ''but I can type as fast as I can speak'' should realize that when you're in the tank on Karbala you simply don't have time to read the messages in the chat.
Squad leaders constantly calling in stuff for eachother and discussing tactics. Especially if you attack unified (on insurgency especially) as a team then mumble is a blessing. Team efficienty simply doubles if you can call in targets to everyone within the 30 meters.
There only is one bad thing about mumble and that is that somehow people still refuse to use it and I have to keep asking ''are you on mumble?'' all the time which gets tiring.
Especially infantry / support vehicle coms are greatly increased. People whining ''but I can type as fast as I can speak'' should realize that when you're in the tank on Karbala you simply don't have time to read the messages in the chat.
Squad leaders constantly calling in stuff for eachother and discussing tactics. Especially if you attack unified (on insurgency especially) as a team then mumble is a blessing. Team efficienty simply doubles if you can call in targets to everyone within the 30 meters.
There only is one bad thing about mumble and that is that somehow people still refuse to use it and I have to keep asking ''are you on mumble?'' all the time which gets tiring.

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splatters
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
Mumble is also good for inter-squad communication. It increases situational awareness enormously when you can approximate your squad mates' locations by just hearing them. Also Mumble doesn't muffle the in-game sounds unlike VOIP and it has better sound quality too.
Go experience Mumble somewhere where people actually use it, you won't be disappointed unless you are a dumbass.
Go experience Mumble somewhere where people actually use it, you won't be disappointed unless you are a dumbass.
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Zimmer
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
+1 agree its a great tool for people who are willing to use it as a communication tool.ChizNizzle wrote:Its for people who get the point of it automatically, take it as good thing and don't rant about it.
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
We can't take out a cache.
2 squads group up and discuss tatics to get in the city and destroy it.
We destroy de cache.
Project Reality - US Army Mumble teamwork - YouTube
Now imagine such level of teamwork using the team-chat !
2 squads group up and discuss tatics to get in the city and destroy it.
We destroy de cache.
Project Reality - US Army Mumble teamwork - YouTube
Now imagine such level of teamwork using the team-chat !
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TheAmazingYant
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
Helps alot for transportation, being able to communicate with the driver/pilot of the APC/Helicopter you're in. A couple times I've had to quickly call off a helicopter landing because we could see enemy forces at our landing site that the pilot couldn't see.
Mumble makes communication and organization not only faster, but far more natural than VOIP and text. There's a whole other level of immersion that you reach when you can simply trot over to another squad and discuss tactics. I really wouldn't play without it.
Plus you can bullshit with other players in between rounds, instead of sitting there in silence for 5 minutes.
Mumble makes communication and organization not only faster, but far more natural than VOIP and text. There's a whole other level of immersion that you reach when you can simply trot over to another squad and discuss tactics. I really wouldn't play without it.
Plus you can bullshit with other players in between rounds, instead of sitting there in silence for 5 minutes.
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Robskie
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
Install Mumble.Who Dares Wins wrote:Really? It's like finding VOIP on retail Battlefield. Maybe a quarter of people actually use it, even on servers where it is required I don't see anybody using anything but the In-Game Squad VOIP or not using anything at all. It was a pain in the arse for me to set up for various reasons and now I finally did it it's just pointless.
What was the point aside from being able to locally talk? Nobody seems to use it at all and it means I keep having to minimize and scroll through a dozen servers if I want to even bother using it.
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Gracler
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
Mumble is definitely useful for communication with transport...other squad leaders...medics intercom in vehicles etc.
For some reason Mumble also seems to make players forget that people don't want to listen to all your information.
Today i was playing on a mumble active server. I was squad leading and therefore in the SL channel.......at some point a random guy told one of the other squad-leaders to quiet down on SL channel......the response was ....assign a damn mumble mute key if you don't want to listen....now when would anyone know when to turn off the mute?
Now i know that someone would argue that a good squad-leader would be able to ignore all the com-chatter, but... id say that most of the talk on "force center" is unnecessary and just fun talk....and its pretty much constantly going and since you don't expect someone to use any form of proper call to get your attention you either have to listen closely for you cue or mute the channel making it completely useless.
I guess i just need to add some more shortcuts for mumble so i can turn down the volume but im sure ill miss some important stuff then.
I don't expect players to use military language when talking in the SL channel.....but PLEASE.... keep it as short as possible....1 sentence should be enough to get your message across..otherwise your not trying hard enough or it is unnecessary for SL channel. Threat it as the old walkies talkies system....say something quick then release your finger and wait for response. Don't keep talking as if you where the weatherman on drugs. If it is your good friend your talking to please don't add any unnecessary chatter also...."hey dude i got him did you see that?"
Also if you spot an enemy ....try to evaluate the situation before reporting it on mumble.... don't forget you still "sometimes" have the commander......your "in-game" radio to "spot" targets and add it on the map.
Imo mumble should only be used for high priority targets.....anything like enemy's on flags that are not even capable should just be marked on the map and left for others to be warned.
I often hear that people turn off mumble completely because they hate all the unnecessary "noise". I cant blaim them for that.
For some reason Mumble also seems to make players forget that people don't want to listen to all your information.
Today i was playing on a mumble active server. I was squad leading and therefore in the SL channel.......at some point a random guy told one of the other squad-leaders to quiet down on SL channel......the response was ....assign a damn mumble mute key if you don't want to listen....now when would anyone know when to turn off the mute?
Now i know that someone would argue that a good squad-leader would be able to ignore all the com-chatter, but... id say that most of the talk on "force center" is unnecessary and just fun talk....and its pretty much constantly going and since you don't expect someone to use any form of proper call to get your attention you either have to listen closely for you cue or mute the channel making it completely useless.
I guess i just need to add some more shortcuts for mumble so i can turn down the volume but im sure ill miss some important stuff then.
I don't expect players to use military language when talking in the SL channel.....but PLEASE.... keep it as short as possible....1 sentence should be enough to get your message across..otherwise your not trying hard enough or it is unnecessary for SL channel. Threat it as the old walkies talkies system....say something quick then release your finger and wait for response. Don't keep talking as if you where the weatherman on drugs. If it is your good friend your talking to please don't add any unnecessary chatter also...."hey dude i got him did you see that?"
Also if you spot an enemy ....try to evaluate the situation before reporting it on mumble.... don't forget you still "sometimes" have the commander......your "in-game" radio to "spot" targets and add it on the map.
Imo mumble should only be used for high priority targets.....anything like enemy's on flags that are not even capable should just be marked on the map and left for others to be warned.
I often hear that people turn off mumble completely because they hate all the unnecessary "noise". I cant blaim them for that.
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CommunistComma
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
Mumble is good even if you're just in it with your squad, because "I NEED A MEDIC OVER HERE" screamed over squad chat does nothing to tell the medic where the wounded squad member is.
It's also quite useful if you want to make fun of somebody behind their back.
It's also quite useful if you want to make fun of somebody behind their back.
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Jolly
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
Using mumble,you can say:“i'll take the revenge”! to the ememy when he pass your body.......Anyway mumble makes game real and fun,most important communication!
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Spartan463
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
I love mumble how I can have actually communication with someone outside the squad, my main reason of using mumble is to chat with my friends/squad mates around me about non-important things so that were not hogging up the Squad VOIP for orders by the SL
Im +1 for mumble
Im +1 for mumble
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Maverick
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
How is it pointless to set up, WHEN IT'S DONE FOR YOU... All you need are two keys JUST TWO. One for regular comms(talk to people around you) and the second for the SL channel if you are SLing...Who Dares Wins wrote:Really? It's like finding VOIP on retail Battlefield. Maybe a quarter of people actually use it, even on servers where it is required I don't see anybody using anything but the In-Game Squad VOIP or not using anything at all. It was a pain in the arse for me to set up for various reasons and now I finally did it it's just pointless.
What was the point aside from being able to locally talk? Nobody seems to use it at all and it means I keep having to minimize and scroll through a dozen servers if I want to even bother using it.
Try Tactical Gamer.


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Dev1200
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Re: What is the point in Mumble?
Who Dares Wins wrote:Really? It's like finding VOIP on retail Battlefield. Maybe a quarter of people actually use it, even on servers where it is required I don't see anybody using anything but the In-Game Squad VOIP or not using anything at all. It was a pain in the arse for me to set up for various reasons and now I finally did it it's just pointless.
What was the point aside from being able to locally talk? Nobody seems to use it at all and it means I keep having to minimize and scroll through a dozen servers if I want to even bother using it.
Go on PRTA when it's full. Everyone is on mumble, and it's amazing. You get EVERYONE talking. It's like a big squad of people, you have much more situational awareness. You feel more like a team.
If you try it with friends, you'll enjoy it. ODS uses it for inter coms with a fireteam (For example, a medic healing someone else, everyone in the voip channel or teamspeak doesn't need to hear "Okay, you need to go this direction, I'll throw smoke" etc)



