Update from the Bomb Squad

Post by **duckhunt** » 2006-09-07 15:11

it would be cool if just before the ied you went of the phone rung, so it would be like ring ring.....oh ****........boom

Strutherski · Post by **Strutherski** » 2006-09-07 16:37

BOOM SHAKALAKA!

Nice works guys. Really excited now.

dab · Post by **dab** » 2006-09-07 16:41

the call of death. Do you like what I did there

Skinwehr · Post by **Skinwehr** » 2006-09-07 17:26

00SoldierofFortune00 wrote:
Want to know the reason why they are called inprovised? Because they just make them up out of no where since they don't have the bombs or weaponry that a professional and skilled military would have. The MEC are a skilled and professional military.

At this point I will draw your attention to the "sticky bombs" made famous in the movie "Saving Private Ryan". This dramatized devices employed at the battle of Caen, in France.

It is, in fact, the professional soldier -not the rank and file recruit- who will be skilled in the art of improvised warfare. The average soldier or marine will know nothing whatever about how to go about dismantling a dud arty shell and making bouncing bettys with it.

Compare the character of a man who makes his rifle from junked Volkswagen axle rod and his engineer kit from agricultural supplies compared to someone who had his issued. Which man exhibits more focus and determination?

Such men would not exist without the backing of a well organized, professional infrastructure.

Post by **requiem** » 2006-09-07 18:03

Well said.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2006-09-07 18:03

Skinwehr wrote:
Compare the character of a man who makes his rifle from junked Volkswagen axle rod and his engineer kit from agricultural supplies compared to someone who had his issued. Which man exhibits more focus and determination?

the man who shot him after his volkswagen axel rifle jams.

luizinhuu · Post by **luizinhuu** » 2006-09-07 18:10

stunningly awesome models!!!!!!!!

btw, a slam model doesnt seem hard to model honestly

are we having 'em?

soraflair · Post by **soraflair** » 2006-09-07 20:00

Man that looks great!

Post by **eggman** » 2006-09-07 20:11

luizinhuu wrote:stunningly awesome models!!!!!!!!

btw, a slam model doesnt seem hard to model honestly

are we having 'em?

already done and in game for v0.4

luizinhuu · Post by **luizinhuu** » 2006-09-07 21:19

omg i love u

huleboeren · Post by **huleboeren** » 2006-09-07 22:01

What is the difference between SLAMs and C4?

Post by **Fullforce** » 2006-09-07 22:21

SLAMS are what the Spec Ops Carries while the Engineer carries the C4.

I think. It might be the other way round. In any case, the C4 offers a much more powerful blast (its plastic explosive) while the SLAM is a traditional explosive.

Everything I said is from my own knowledge, so don't believe it all. When someone posts that knows a lot more than me, listen to them

EDIT: Yeah, Spec Ops get the SLAMs.

More Info: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/slam.htm

Skinwehr · Post by **Skinwehr** » 2006-09-07 23:29

'[5NFSO wrote:Thunder']the man who shot him after his volkswagen axel rifle jams.

If I can figure out how to get a .jpg off of VHS I'll show you just how nice of a firearm can be produced from such things as truck axles using nothing but hand tools. It's an art, really.

Mass-manufactured rifles often include casting marks and tooling marks as quantity replaces quality. These marks can actually increase recoil by causing friction between parts - recoil decreases accuracy.

Most hand made firearms I have seen have national-match tolerance and all of their functional parts are polished like a mirror.

I can make a national match grade M1911A1 from a road plate, if I had to.

Post by **duckhunt** » 2006-09-07 23:50

right thats very nice but you talk about mass production. So thats 1 axle gun vs 100 guys with m16s.

Also Im not sure if you are or not but I could not bring myself to praise the actions or abilities of any terrorists making improvised devices.

Skinwehr · Post by **Skinwehr** » 2006-09-08 00:12

The founders of the United States of America were "terrorists" who used dirty tricks and improvised warfare to defeat a vastly superior army. Many revolutionary war weapons were homemade.

Then there is the example of the Zulus.

I can go on, but I dont want to be accused of picking on the English.

At no time did I praise the actions of "terrorists". I am not saying we should include a frightened airline passenger class who fight off terrorists with Ipod chords and food service utensils into PRMM.

I am saying that improvised munitions are a fact of warfare and that soldiers thus armed are just as legitimate and professional, if not more so.

What is the difference between an Apache pilot blowing up a squad of the enemy before they even know the helocopter is there and someone remote-detonating a re-worked 155mm shell near a hummer without notice? How is one a "terrorist" and the other not?

It's a useless propaganda term for people who root for their "sides" army like a football fan without ever reflecting of the reality of it all.

Post by **duckhunt** » 2006-09-08 00:15

hmmm, I disagree, but yea I dont wanna start anything, so il leave it. Anyway is the ied gonna make a ringtone before it blows!? and make slams more powerful!

Skinwehr · Post by **Skinwehr** » 2006-09-08 00:19

HAHA A ringtone... that'd be hilarious.

In any event... The SLAM is a cone charge and thus exerts it's energy mainly in the direction of the concave surface. It should have little splash damage.

The Nextel Pipe bomb, however should have less penetration and much more splash damage as it is a crude bomb.

Post by **duckhunt** » 2006-09-08 00:22

So if its directional (slam) a single one placed under a hummer/vodnick should blow it right? or atleast set it on fire, because at the moment it doesnt.

Skinwehr · Post by **Skinwehr** » 2006-09-08 00:30

It is capable of piercing 1.5 inches of mild steel... So yeah, a car would stop working if you did that to it.

Likewise, those pipe bombs should be able to obliterate a SUV too.

Post by **duckhunt** » 2006-09-08 00:32

By pipe bomb do you mean the ied in th picture? Cos I though a pipe bomb was sometime you could chuck like a nade.