[Solved]Massive Lag.

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2012-01-21 18:29

Yeah

I have been getting lag on mosts of PR maps, like, Gaza Beach, Beirut, Fallujah, Ramiel and most of the City maps that are in PR. Also in FH2.

So, First you get a big fps drop when looking at the city (Fallujah), then, your guy gets bugged and its like sprinting, but not sprinting. Really annoying.

I have been playing PR for quite a while, and never had lag problems untill now, since i play with a new and bigger resolution (1600x900) than my provious (1280 x 760 or something. ), always on High settings.

But anyways, here are my system specs.

Windows 7 64bit
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ 2.19GHz
4GB Ram DDR2
Nvidia 8600 GT 512mb

Lag appears to come out both on Offline and Online play, so Internet lag is not a problem.

Also, PR.exe seems to just use 1gb of RAM of the 4 available, how do i increase that?

I also run xfire and skype when running PR, but that never been a problem before, as i have a couple of years playing PR/FH2/BF2 and never had such problems.

Thanks for your time.

MaSSive · Post by **MaSSive** » 2012-01-21 18:56

That seems to be stuttering which is different from ping lag ( latency problems ).

Are you running PR as admin as a first question here. Second, pr.exe is not important here, in fact not even bf2.exe is, but just as you know, you should look at bf2.exe and its memory usage not pr.exe.

It not important cause we are here dealing with 64bit system, so any kind of fixes that has been posted around on forums doesn't apply in this case.

What I suspect here is that your system, combined with mild aged hardware is causing this. We all know that in some point our OS starts getting laggy and slow and only way to fix it is to reinstall it. Is your system at this point?

Try to monitor your CPU/RAM/GPU usage when this occurs, I suspect it may be that its your CPU throttling here. If so try overclicking a bit. I think you should be able to push that CPU up to 2.8Ghz on aircooling. I had this processor and I know I did it on cheap mobo, and I had better performance in games.

Another thing is background processes. To eliminate this factor shut them all down.

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2012-01-21 21:05

Hey

Yes, afaik you run pr.exe as admin by default. So yes, im running pr.exe with admin.
Just to let you know, bf2.exe uses up 1gb of RAM.

I believe my OS is fine. Its not either too slow or too fast, its medium, if i explain myself. Does hard disks have something to do here? Because i have alot of stuff in my PC, and its pretty logic that the more stuff you have, the performance will drop.

About the overclicking thing, unfortunely, i dont have any idea on how to do it. I've researched a bit and it shows that i have to use Jumpers and stuff, dont even know what it is so its better to leave it as it is.

How about Temperature? We're in the middle of Summer and my room is pretty how, and how do i check temp on my PC?

And Resolution? Can it be the cause of this lag?

Gracias.

MaSSive · Post by **MaSSive** » 2012-01-21 21:39

Bf2.exe will use more ram depending on your video settings. If you set textures on high it will highly depend on that.

Sure hard drive play a lot in the performance. The more its busy with read/write operations, more it will be impact on performance. Try to free up some space, and defragment it. For example I use separate hard drive for my games, on a separate partition. I have one 160gb for system and games are on separate 500gb drive.

You must pay attention to it, as hard drive must be at least 15-20% of partition size free to avoid heavy fragmentation and performance issues. If partition is, lets say 200gb, you must have at least 20-25 gb free, or it will suffer from fragmentation. This will impact game performance most likely.

Overclocking is quite easy, but if it worked fine for you without overclock and you never did it, its better to leave it as it is.

Temperatures surely have large influence on performance. Having CPU or GPU overheating will cause slowdown or even unexpected errors, like bsod or freezing. To check your temps, you can use AIDA64 ( shareware but trial will work ), CoreTemp ( for CPU ) or GPU-Z ( for graphic card ).

Increasing resolution will increase video ram usage and system ram usage, slightly GPU load too, but in your case you have sufficient resources for running it on higher resolution. Maybe not in HD res but 1600x900 will work. You might try decreasing it and see what happens.

You might also try to clear shader cache by going to My Documents>Battlefiled 2>mods>bf2 and deleting all you find there. After this, run vBF2 customize your video settings if needed and join MP game. Shut it down, and run PR. See if this will fix stuttering too.

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2012-01-21 22:29

About the Hard Disk:

I have 931gb, wich i've used 381gb leaving up to a total of 550gb Free.

About the Temperatures:

Core 1 66?
Core 2 67?

How bad is that? And btw, keep in mind that we're in summer (and a terrible one!!) so my CPU can Overheat easily, right??

Im going to downloaded the newest driver for my VideoCard, havent updated it for ages.

The resolution helped just a bit. It does lag, but its not a total killer like it was. Still unplayable tho.

MaSSive · Post by **MaSSive** » 2012-01-21 22:42

931gb in one partition? Keep in mind that you need free space on every partition.

Those temp are slight higher for that cpu but not critical. As I recall I never had or than 44 Celsius on it. Check your cooler for dust and clean it.

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2012-01-22 00:06

No dust.

About the hard disk, im kinda noob but ill tell ya.

I have one partition with 931gb total. 550gb available.

But still, problem is in PR and FH2. As they're the only games that lag on my system. All my other games, Il2, Killing Floor, Company of Heroes, Dead Island and STALKER do not lag.

So its kinda weird.

MaSSive · Post by **MaSSive** » 2012-01-22 00:34

Have you tried this?

[R-COM]MaSSive wrote: You might also try to clear shader cache by going to My Documents>Battlefiled 2>mods>bf2 and deleting all you find there. After this, run vBF2 customize your video settings if needed and join MP game. Shut it down, and run PR. See if this will fix stuttering too.

Ok you have enough free space on hdd, but what about fragmentation? Tried running it?

If nothing helps, plane old reinstall might.

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2012-01-22 08:18

Tried deleting what you said and i must admit it has improved my performance a bit.

But anyways, since i've done that, it looks like Fobs, Bunkers, Crates, Ammo Crates and all deployable/buildable stuff are black.

Post by **LITOralis.nMd** » 2012-01-22 11:56

Hi torenico,

Here is my first thought, you upgraded to 0.97 and new FH2 and the new files got put at the end of your hard drive. so you have your BF2, PR and FH2 files spread out all over your hard drive, and it's making your hard drive work at full speed to try to keep up with the demands from the game for disk reading.

Now if it turns all black, just delete the shaders folder again. clear shader cache by going to My Documents>Battlefiled 2>mods>bf2 and deleting all you find there.

As you suspect, You might be pushing the limits of your Video Card with the new monitor resolution,
TO test, you could lower your resolution in PR , restart, PR, then try to play, see if you are getting rubberbanding and dropped frames problems still.

And you should completely defrag your hard drive.
The included Windows defrag utility is OK.

If you want to spend some time learning , you could go to mydefrag.com and download mydefrag , then go to the forums and learn how to build a custom defrag script that would put your Windows files at beginning of disk, then your BF2, FH2, PR, and PRMumble files next, then your other game files, then the rest of your files.
It's a way to slightly increase the disk read/write performance when playing games. This is a project in and of it self and the results wil not be amazing.

MaSSive · Post by **MaSSive** » 2012-01-22 14:24

torenico wrote:Tried deleting what you said and i must admit it has improved my performance a bit.

But anyways, since i've done that, it looks like Fobs, Bunkers, Crates, Ammo Crates and all deployable/buildable stuff are black.

Yes but that happened because you haven't followed instructions completely.

When you delete shader cache, run vanilla BF2 and join MP game. When done, shut it down and run PR.

Other than that I think also full DEFRAG will solve most of your issues.

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2012-01-22 22:40

Alright, did as you said.

Deleting shaders, running vBF2, joinin a MP game, shutting it down and then open PR and stuff is still black.

But good news, lag seems to be gone, atleast on Gaza wich used to lag alot, just came back from a Coop round playing on Gaza and experienced little FPS drop when looking at the city.

Plaing on 800x600 but my monitor adjusts everything, so it looks like im playing 1600x900 but with bigger stuff, like text.

Will try a full defrag this night, as it takes 5 Hours and reinstall PR too.

Will come back tomorrow, thanks!!

Post by **LITOralis.nMd** » 2012-01-22 23:16

Make sure you reinstall PR BEFORE you defrag, or you will have the same problem with fragmented PR files again!

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2012-01-22 23:44

Thanks, i will.

MaSSive · Post by **MaSSive** » 2012-01-23 15:31

torenico wrote:Alright, did as you said.

Deleting shaders, running vBF2, joinin a MP game, shutting it down and then open PR and stuff is still black.

That is strange. I just did same thing and I had black deployables too, even though I didnt have this problem.

Will look into this and post back a solution.

UPDATE:

Ok seems like I was wrong. Running vBF2 is needed if you delete complete profile folder in My Documents, but if you delete shaders only there is no need for that. Just run PR and all will be fine.

Delete shaders again, and just run PR. Apologies for this.

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2012-01-23 19:05

Np man, i've reinstalled PR and its fixed.

But i had a couple of problems last night and i couldnt do a defrag, will do it this night.

rushn · Post by **rushn** » 2012-01-24 03:04

torenico wrote:Np man, i've reinstalled PR and its fixed.

But i had a couple of problems last night and i couldnt do a defrag, will do it this night.

what problems?

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2012-01-24 20:46

[R-COM]rushn wrote:what problems?

Electrical Power was cut-off, and it was also cut-off last night too so i couldnt try a defrag.

I want do defrag while i sleep because it takes 5 Hours.

rushn · Post by **rushn** » 2012-01-24 21:47

torenico wrote:Electrical Power was cut-off, and it was also cut-off last night too so i couldnt try a defrag.

I want do defrag while i sleep because it takes 5 Hours.

alright do that then

but after the computer was shut off because of power outtage did you experience any errors?

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2012-01-25 00:11

Nothing.

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