Can you give pretty much anything to MEC?

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Re: Can you give pretty much anything to MEC?

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=HCM= Shwedor wrote:I think MEC needs a special AK, an AK-47 with a scope instead of the usual scoped AK-74. Always wondered what a scoped AK-47 would be like in PR.
It'd be identical to the G3 :P
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There are already so many variations of the AK in the game. I personally would hate to see a uniform faction like the MEC end up with militia style load out where every other soldier has a different weapon all together. The AKs have their place with Russia, Insurgents, Taliban, Hamas, and Millitia (May have forgotten one). There is no need for any of the existing factions to get AKs. And I feel that the MEC is fine, their load out is similar to most of the other standing factions. Ex. US Army: M-4 all kits. US Marines: M16A4 all kits. Brits: L85A2 all kits. Russia: AK74M all kits. (excluding the SAW kits of course.) If there was a weapon change to occur in the MEC I personally hope that it would change in every single kit, faction wide. But personally I enjoy the G3 so I would hate to see the faction's kits change much at all.
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Fligsnurt wrote:There are already so many variations of the AK in the game. I personally would hate to see a uniform faction like the MEC end up with militia style load out where every other soldier has a different weapon all together. The AKs have their place with Russia, Insurgents, Taliban, Hamas, and Millitia (May have forgotten one). There is no need for any of the existing factions to get AKs. And I feel that the MEC is fine, their load out is similar to most of the other standing factions. Ex. US Army: M-4 all kits. US Marines: M16A4 all kits. Brits: L85A2 all kits. Russia: AK74M all kits. (excluding the SAW kits of course.) If there was a weapon change to occur in the MEC I personally hope that it would change in every single kit, faction wide. But personally I enjoy the G3 so I would hate to see the faction's kits change much at all.
True im getting tired of seeing the AK, its a good gun but when almost every op-for faction has it, and is no fun after a while.

I do hope to see different armaments, for the MEC. But only time will tell.
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Id like a more aestethic weapon with a smaller fckin scope that doesnt obscure half of me screen.

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I definitely don't want more Kalashnikov factions. I wouldn't mind more carbine-ey weapons, such as the G3KA4 and M4 without the handguard, for certain support classes like Medic, HAT, and AA, but that's about it.
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It would be epic if they had the KH2002. :D

Don't replace the G3 completely, though.
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I said it before and I'll say it again, let the DEVS have their fun, their well thought out, time consuming fun.
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there should be an Iranian faction though.
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Iranian faction

pro - more realistic flag selection on screen...

con - crapload of work for no change in gameplay at all...
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I like the MEC thing as they're a superpower faction with the hypothetical potential to take on NATO. Iran is, at best, a regional power that would stand no chance against the US or its allies, which is unlike the MEC currently.
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Doc.Pock wrote:Id like a more aestethic weapon with a smaller fckin scope that doesnt obscure half of me screen.

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This is exactly why I'm pissed off the G3, the scope is too big and with the big recoil of the G3 it looks like the scope will detach from the weapon when shooting lol. That's why I would like some SIG in the mix with the G3s.

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I don't think there will be any major changes to the MEC's primary weapon.
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This is exactly why I'm pissed off the G3, the scope is too big and with the big recoil of the G3 it looks like the scope will detach from the weapon when shooting lol. That's why I would like some SIG in the mix with the G3s.
There's probably a couple of hundred SIG SG 550s in the entire middle east, so its not going to happen.

MEC should keep their G3A3s. There is no reason to add totally unrelated small arms to their arsenal: there are already insurgent factions which offer such small arm diversity. MEC is a conventional army, which like standardized weapons.

Only MEC crewman might be given an under-folding AK or something. It would definitely reduce crewman kit abuse by people who do not want to learn to shoot with the G3. Also, since the MEC's Russian vehicles use... Russian munitions, its not implausible that their AFV crews would use Russian small arms.
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Bellator wrote:Only MEC crewman might be given an under-folding AK or something. It would definitely reduce crewman kit abuse by people who do not want to learn to shoot with the G3. Also, since the MEC's Russian vehicles use... Russian munitions, its not implausible that their AFV crews would use Russian small arms.
If anything it should be the G3KA4

but there is the issue that is the lack of a model
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The G3KA4 would, gameplay-wise, be identical to a G3, so I don't really see the need to add that thing. It doesn't even look different from the first person perspective.

Anyway, regarding SIGs or AKs:
The G3 series of weapons offers battle rifles, submachine guns, marksman rifles, sniper rifles and machine guns. Why would the MEC buy another line of weapons from a different manufacturer? The G3 series offers all they need.

Personally, I like the G3. I like that it isn't yet another 5.56x45mm assault rifle / carbine. Makes the faction play a little different. If anything at all, I'd always have wished for the specialist kit or some other kit to get the MP5 as alternative primary weapon when you request it with a right-click, as it is a great CQB weapon and already in the arsenal.
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I agree with Spec, if something has to change, I would pick the MP5 for specialist ALT (Spawn with G3, pick up MP5)
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Durkie wrote:IMO it would be cool to split the MEC in too one faction with more western equipment (for example Saudi Arabia) and an faction with more Russian equipment which is more or less what the MEC is now.

This way you could make maps with MEC 1 fighting MEC 2. Our NATO fighting an opponent with more or less the same equipment.
this is something I had in mind as well for a long time, you see most assets Arabic countries use are ingame already and would only require a new paintjob to fit them. Thus we could create a western orientated MEC faction, something like Saudi Arabia (G3's?) or Egypt(misr's, practically more or less AKS-47's in license) using M1a1's and m113's with Arabic markings and a Eastern (Russia that is) orientated MEC faction that resembles more or less the ex-Libian and current Syrian Armies.

perhaps splitting the MEC into two factions isn't even necessary as we might be able to do something with texture suffixes for soldier and vehicleskins, dual kits would be required though (one g3's, the other ak's for example).

this would give mappers some flexibility as how their MEC faction would appear and is a bit more realistic given the different RL nations involved in certain theatres.

this doesn't mean I'm not content with the current MEC faction, I just think there's room for improvement.

edit: let's first see what look (eastern/western) the dev's choose for the new MEC kitgeometries Hauteclocque hinted about ;)
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If anything I'd rather add more stuff to the PLA, the MEC get enough loving as it is.
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[R-DEV]Spush wrote:If anything I'd rather add more stuff to the PLA, the MEC get enough loving as it is.
personnaly I find both currently the least interesting factions assets- and appearance-wise, though they have great potential. I'm very excited, though, about the updated QBZ series for the PLA and the possible new Kitgeoms for the MEC.
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