Mandatory Mumble

Scared_420 · Post by **Scared_420** » 2012-03-20 02:42

To the servers that enforce my title I have a few things to say...

Mumble is good I admit, it communicates with squads but that same goal can be achieved in many ways.. voip, teamchat COMMANDER etc...

If you are going to kick someone for not having mumble, please remember a lot of the player base dont use it or dont believe in it.

It is quite obvious that a mic is enough to have good teamplay so why try to take it to the next level and make everyone who bought a mic to play PR download and install mumble.

Make sure that SOMEONE in the squad has mumble so they can communicate your squads activities to other squads (which is the commanders job) before you kick someone for not downloading a program for a mod.

Essentially what you are doing is limiting the gameplay because these playeres have to dowload a mod of a mod.

Thanks for reading.

ExNusquam · Post by **ExNusquam** » 2012-03-20 03:38

Then don't play on a server that requires mumble. Mumble immensely improves coordination between players. I've yet to read a valid argument against it's use.

Scared_420 · Post by **Scared_420** » 2012-03-20 03:41

My argument is if u have a seasoned player leading a squad and SOMEONE in the squad is relaying the info in mumble there is no need to kick.

1 year ago it was mandatory to have a mic and now it is mandatory to have both is what I am saying.

Bradley364 · Post by **Bradley364** » 2012-03-20 04:00

Scared_420 wrote: 1 year ago it was mandatory to have a mic and now it is mandatory to have both is what I am saying.

Yes, yes it is. DEAL WITH IT BRO.

Click · Post by **Click** » 2012-03-20 04:15

The way mumble works is in providing a real atmosphere in the game so it has realism to it and one day it will replace VOIP but with the new mumble it is easy to use and easy to set up so it is better than the mumble that was previous.

Furst · Post by **Furst** » 2012-03-20 04:17

another problem is that not everybody has a computer which is able to run that amount of programs at once.

i appreciate the availability of mumble, but that really aint fair at all.

Mouthpiece · Post by **Mouthpiece** » 2012-03-20 04:37

Lol, you can't do an attack on a objective with 3 inf squads covering each others approach while overwatched by an apc, tank and a attack heli up in the sky. You just cant communicate so quicky and efficently using ingame tools. You can't talk to Mortars directly to coordinate their fire. You can't talk to pilot to tell him to make any landing or crate deploying corrections (you can, but mumble makes it 100% easier). And most of all - you can talk to every squadleader - at the same time or one by one. Talking to them is more convincing than typing "Ok, you guys defend point A and we'll atack point B". Oh, there are so many pluses on mumble, that my head starts to hurt thinking about not using it and advising servers not to be Mumble mandatory.

SmoothIsFast6 · Post by **SmoothIsFast6** » 2012-03-20 05:30

Scared_420 wrote:please remember a lot of the player base dont believe in it.

I have now heard it all

lmfao

Mumble or go play another game thanks

thedarkhorse · Post by **thedarkhorse** » 2012-03-20 06:07

mumble will save you, I've been warned of countless traps and enemy forces I would have run into by non-squad members because of mumble. Many situations are too quick for text chat & mumble is perfect.

That being said there are a few people who play in internet cafe's and have no control over having mumble which is a valid excuse and maybe a little leniency could be given there. Other than that there isn't much excuse for not having mumble.

Really, once it's installed and set up you just launch mumble, hit ok in one window, then launch PR:BF2 and your good to go. Opening 2 things instead of 1, it's not that difficult

Doc.Pock · Post by **Doc.Pock** » 2012-03-20 06:20

There was a launcher made that will launch both at the same time. also downloading that one more megabyte isn't a problem I hope. As it comes with pr itself so you don't dl something separatly.

Stealth Clobber · Post by **Stealth Clobber** » 2012-03-20 06:25

Mumble is so easy to use with PR now that it's silly that any would NOT use it. And their computers should be able to run PR and Mumble at the same time; if they couldn't I don't see how they could even run PR smoothly.

We've come this far with a mod for a game released in 2005, and a voice program is separating you from the rest of the player base? Come on now

sweedensniiperr · Post by **sweedensniiperr** » 2012-03-20 07:23

Scared_420 wrote:My argument is if u have a seasoned player leading a squad and SOMEONE in the squad is relaying the info in mumble there is no need to kick.

Well, i don't think you should make exceptions from the rules in a server. Plus, maybe VOIP is disabled? Type then forward in mumble? Nah i don't think so.

Scared_420 · Post by **Scared_420** » 2012-03-20 07:32

I guess my argument has been shot down, I now have a question about mumble.

If I reinstall PR, is the mumble included the updated one you speak of where it starts up automaticaly with PR and is so easy to use ?

Post by **LITOralis.nMd** » 2012-03-20 08:33

Scared_420 wrote:I guess my argument has been shot down, I now have a question about mumble.

If I reinstall PR, is the mumble included the updated one you speak of where it starts up automaticaly with PR and is so easy to use ?

No.

Download the PRMumble 1.0.0 Beta 4 from here:
http://realitymodfiles.com/dbzao/PR_Mum ... Beta_4.msi

Here is the FAQ and some tips and tricks after install:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f27-pr ... ricks.html

And just remember to install PRMumble as admin. And to run PRmumble as admin and PR as admin. That solves about 85% of people's problems.

Deathtrap · Post by **Deathtrap** » 2012-03-20 08:39

Scared, as we just discussed in the server it is so easy to download and use. If you have technical problems, tell any one of us. We are all willing to help you out. But you keep using asinine reasoning that none of us can even begin to comprehend.

If you refuse to use Mumble, find a server that doesn't require it. Pretty simple.

Arnoldio · Post by **Arnoldio** » 2012-03-20 10:33

If every server would force mumble, that would be good. Lame *** palyers would fly off the mod in no time and overall it would be better. :d

ryan d ale · Post by **ryan d ale** » 2012-03-20 10:58

I think PR and mumble are now in-seperable.

I can't imagine trying to play without it.

MaSSive · Post by **MaSSive** » 2012-03-20 13:35

There are some servers which are forcing use of mumble and making it mandatory, and will kick you in future if you dont use it. On some of these servers bf2 voip is disabled so not having mumble makes you pretty much lonewolf.

However I disagree with all servers forcing it. Its quite simple. Not all people have computers powerful enough to run PR+Mumble at the same time. Factor for calculating this is not only raw processing power but internet connection too. For people with very low upload speeds mumble might cause stuttering, lag, and crashes/disconnects. You can lower bandwidth usage of mumble in its config, but then you lower sound quality at the same time, and again you're not achieving much. They will have mumble but will have hard time communicating.

Thats why I think mumble should not be mandatory on all servers, at least not yet. There are more reasons why not, but I find this one technical most important.

FLAP_BRBGOING2MOON · Post by **FLAP_BRBGOING2MOON** » 2012-03-20 15:43

[R-COM]MaSSive wrote:However I disagree with all servers forcing it. Its quite simple. Not all people have computers powerful enough to run PR+Mumble at the same time.

i know that CIA and other mumble forcing servers will put in an exception if you go to their forums and tell them you simply cannot run pr and mumble at the same time. there is really no reason a server should not force mumble as long as they will add exceptions when its impossible for certain players.

Tartantyco · Post by **Tartantyco** » 2012-03-20 15:56

Or maybe people who can't play PR while running Mumble should consider getting a computer that's not from 1995.

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