Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

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zamani532
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Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by zamani532 »

Why did the PR team disable helicopter paratrooping? Its perfectly realistic and many countries have units that can drop out the back of Mi-17's etc. You used to be able to get a pilot kit and jump out of helis above 300m and glide to a safe decent over AO's. You can still do it but with half the amount of soldiers( So you can constantly swap seats bypassing the pilot kit in passanger seat black screen warning ) So the disabling was even more useless and people still manage to do it!

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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by Amok@ndy »

its not disabled, if you have played Silent Eagle or Yamalia for example there are German and Russian Paratroopers
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zamani532
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by zamani532 »

It is disabled. For some reason someone would think it impossible and out of line with realism for multiple pilots to be in the same chopper. This limitation further complicates things such as retrieving lost pilots on the ground can't get into helis without dropping their kits leading to confusion. I will say it again incase you misunderstood.

Why can't pilots be in passenger seats of helis?
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by dtacs »

Because pilots pilot helicopters. They don't ride in the back.

Paratroopers in PR are strictly a scenario based facet to warfare, hence only being on two maps. I personally think it opens up huge amounts of potential in all 4km's and every one should have an airborne layer. But, giving the option to squads on maps such as Muttrah - a place that no military would drop troops in - just makes for bad gameplay. Imagine a squad parachuting onto a cache on Ramiel, it'd just be silly.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by saXoni »

zamani532 wrote:Why can't pilots be in passenger seats of helis?
Because a pilot is supposed to operate the aircraft, not jump out of it.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by Navo »

Ninja'd by an Australian. Oh boy.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by MaSSive »

I'm sure this is not about pilots doing something they shouldn't do. Any kit can get assigned a parachute for paratroop missions ( or could if it was coded that way ).

But as some said above this will make game exploitable, and will brick the gameplay, so its not a feature unless its by scenario as mentioned above.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by psychickactivity »

ok.... :D

All squad take pilot kit .....
And on Mumble you ask to the pilot to go very high...
Behind enemy line , or on one point you choice before.
After this you jump with your squad .
At the same time if it's possible and helicoptere depose create before or after , like this you can change your kit .
And do fb if you want.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by MaSSive »

psychickactivity wrote:ok....
All squad take pilot kit .....
And on Mumble you ask to the pilot to go very high...
Behind enemy line , or on one point you choice before.
After this you jump with your squad .
At the same time if it's possible and helicoptere depose create before or after , like this you can change your kit .
And do fb if you want.
Not possible. Pilots can only be in pilot or copilot position in helicopter. If you go to sit back ( F2, F3, F4...etc ) you will get black screen with yellow letters telling you that you cant operate this vehicle position. If you dont switch back to cockpit you will die. And crates must be dropped from low altitude on low speed or they will self destruct - vanish.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by psychickactivity »

Ho , but i do it , that s what i tell this , if it s change , i dont see it.

So why not do this now ?

Anyway Thanks for info, MaSSive.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by UTurista »

I know that pilots can quicly change seats and they wont die, in fact I already saw, on insurgency, 3 guys parachuting from the chinook, land on the cache, that had spawn on a previus enemy fob, they managed to find the intact crates, switch to rifleman and burn the cache.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by mat552 »

Someone was mad about being flanked from above.
Players might be hardcoded, but that sure doesn't seem to stop anybody from trying.


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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by UTurista »

mat552 wrote:Someone was mad about being flanked from above.
damm right the rest of team was mad... me and my squad never laugh so hard :mrgreen:

manly because we kinda were the SQ. responsible for that cache :roll: :roll: but that's another story
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by Maverick »

It's unrealistic. The devs found out that the playerbase was using the pilot kits for unrealistic reasons...To stop this, they implemented the pilot can't go in any other seat except the pilots.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by SGT.Ice »

Unrealistic reasons, but some non special ops units are trained to parachute none the less.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by badmojo420 »

It was done to improve gameplay. Realism has nothing to do with it. Maybe in a game where the sky has realistic altitude limits, the fog isn't there, anti-aircraft weapons have their actual ranges, and we have enough people to defend the rear, maybe it'd create some awesome game play. But not in BF2 :P R.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by Brainlaag »

badmojo420 wrote:It was done to improve gameplay. Realism has nothing to do with it. Maybe in a game where the sky has realistic altitude limits, the fog isn't there, anti-aircraft weapons have their actual ranges, and we have enough people to defend the rear, maybe it'd create some awesome game play. But not in BF2 :P R.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by maniac1031 »

I have used a Kiowa to get back to my squad whom was is in the city on ramiel after a ctd. I joined the pilots squad told him what was up got him to fly me there while i was in the spotter seat and hopped out to get back to my squad. Side note if your chopper can fly their have you jump out and then land a crate you may as well just get him to land you it will be faster and safer because you wont be floating around in the wind.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by PricelineNegotiator »

I've done this about 10 ten times on one round of Jabal with my friend. I was flying the CAS Huey, so it worked. We'd go to 800 meters and he'd jump out over Jabal. Apparently he got a couple kills.
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Re: Why did PR team disable helicopter paratroopers?

Post by rPoXoTauJIo »

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^ This. When we landed, we found civilian and shotgun kits(RKG FTW!). Cache was destroyed by paratroopers :twisted:
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