Anti Air vs Helicopters

[votps]

i think the Anti Air is too over powered .
its like no way to dodge it
and no matter how much flares you release it always hit you
i can release all the 30 flares and it still somehow kills me
i think that even if it hits the flare it still destroys the helicopter from the explosion of the missle that hit the flare

some people told me there is tactics to escape the anti air missles , but i dont see it possible to do

most of the time when anti air got lock on me one second after i hear the warning i got hit and destroyed
and even if i do some unknown trick i dont have time to avoid the misslie impact on me

any suggestions ?


and another question, in high alt with att helicopter when i move with my keys the helicopter goes fucked up and it rotates very fast to the right or to the left, i dont know why..

[masterceo]

most of the time when anti air got lock on me one second after i hear the warning i got hit and destroyed

there's your problem. fly in a way that gives the enemy no chance to lock on you. Your tactic of staying high up may be good for staying out of lock range, but it shows everyone around where you are and what you're doing, so they can just wait till you drop down to an altitude where they can lock.

Fly smarter, not higher.

[saXoni]

If you know where the AA is you can drop flares and make them go straight towards the AA, while you move your helicopter in the opposite direction.

I do agree, though. The AA is hard to dodge, but let's face it, if the AA was useless, CAS would have raped on every single map with a competent crew.

[PricelineNegotiator]

If the AA wasn't so "overpowered" then communication about it's presence wouldn't be so important. I think it's an issue of teamwork, not how much damage it does.

But it still pisses me off how strong it is.

[PLODDITHANLEY]

Well AA is near useless against Hueys....

But against the Attack chopper one hit kill, whenever enemy air is up I man AA and miss alot.

Quite often AA isn't manned as it's a boring job, as others have said PR is a teamwork game until inf can laze the AA or tell you exactly where it is you're powerless.

[PricelineNegotiator]

Well AA is near useless against Hueys....

The huey is known for it's extreme longevity and is probably the most known feature besides it's unique sound.

[LieutenantNessie]

This is one of the things that proves PR is about luck. Theres noway to dodge em it's totally random if it hits u or not, as sax said only way is not to get a lock at all by releasing flares before getting the lock where you have to be careful as fuck where to go to

[PLODDITHANLEY]

I think if your far from the AA it makes it easier to dodge, there are tricks that the AA can do to get more success, but yes a pilot certainly has to drop his flares in coordiantion with movement to spread them out nicely.

[Pvt.LHeureux]

It's the main problem with CAS in PR.

-Enemy got AA up?
-Yes
-Ok, forget CAS until it's destroyed

[saXoni]

It's the main problem with CAS in PR.

-Enemy got AA up?
-Yes
-Ok, forget CAS until it's destroyed

If that's the way you think CAS is none of your business.

[karambaitos]

The huey is known for it's extreme longevity and is probably the most known feature besides it's unique sound.

its not a freaking flying fortress that can survive an AA in the nose, which in game it is.

[votps]

there's your problem. fly in a way that gives the enemy no chance to lock on you. Your tactic of staying high up may be good for staying out of lock range, but it shows everyone around where you are and what you're doing, so they can just wait till you drop down to an altitude where they can lock.

Fly smarter, not higher.

flying lower is a sucide
the TOW's are extreamly accurated they can hit the helicopter easily
or worse is the recoiless tanks
and also the AA

and if i fly high then the only thing that can get me is the AA

by the way flying high not helping escape the AA
i mean flying high enough to see the target, the AA will hit me in a second and a half instead of a second
its not helping me much.


its like Pvt.LHeureux said, CAS can fly only if the AA is down..

and most of the time the team is not supporting the helicopter , i mean not giving targets , no AA position and no nothing
only me and my partner. and i have to guess where is a AA hot zone..

the AA is unrealistic here, its hit you randomly , but most of the time it hit you and destroy you, only if its your lucky day maybe it will hit the flare and wont damage the helicopter...

[LieutenantNessie]

Basicly what works best in this game in helos is that you place a marker on the target, you got high like 2km ontop of it and then dive down on it, you can see the marker since you're ontop of it and you fire at the marker while being outside of the lock range.

[=HCM= Shwedor]

It is 100% impossible to dodge a competent FIM-92 Stinger guy on some maps, like Kokan. IMPOSSIBLE. You can actually free fire the Stinger without waiting for a lock, and because it goes very straight and has a proxy-like fuse, it will still kill the kiowas. Makes it even easier to kill them when they fly extremely low, only way for them to come close to survival is to fly at above visual range and fire as soon as they see ground, and even then they die 98% of the time from no-lock stingers when I shoot. So essentially, the pilot never hears a lock sound and is instantly dead. However, this tactic dosen't work as well with the SA-7, you really need a lock with that, and even with a lock the SA-7 misses a lot. On maps like Kashan 32 this is also very effective against attack helicopters. Transport helicopters on the other hand, are flying tanks which handheld AA and FOB AA is useless against, better off using a TOW. Going high with the marker directly under you is semi-effective, but you can still die quite easily if they free-fire without a lock. Lock range is not necessarily maximum effective range.

[Stealthgato]

The Strela is pretty shitty, small lock range and on 75% of the launches it just goes straight.

[saXoni]

Basicly what works best in this game in helos is that you place a marker on the target, you got high like 2km ontop of it and then dive down on it, you can see the marker since you're ontop of it and you fire at the marker while being outside of the lock range.

That's not fun, though.

[Pvt.LHeureux]

If that's the way you think CAS is none of your business.

No, that's how the players do it though. Because they know AA is OP if maned.

[ryan d ale]

Personally I think you guys are chatting rubbish.

It is rare to get shot by AA and go down. Normally, just take a bit of damage and return when 'exploding' on helipad and saved with 15 seconds to spare usually and get repaired and good to go again.

Edit - Can't even remember last time I was downed from AA missle.

[Psyko]

That's not fun, though.

+1

needs an overhaul.

[saXoni]

Personally I think you guys are chatting rubbish.

It is rare to get shot by AA and go down. Normally, just take a bit of damage and return when 'exploding' on helipad and saved with 15 seconds to spare usually and get repaired and good to go again.

Edit - Can't even remember last time I was downed from AA missle.

You're one extremely careful guy then. Or lucky, for that matter