Weapon anachronism in PR: Vietnam

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Orca19904
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Weapon anachronism in PR: Vietnam

Post by Orca19904 »

I want to start off by saying that I am really excited to finally have this much-anticipated addition to PR:BF2. That said however, I'm afraid I've noticed an anachronism in one of the weapons of PR: Vietnam, namely the Mossberg 590 shotgun used by the US Rifleman Specialist classes. Mossberg did not come out with the 590 shotgun until the mid-1970's when the conflict was ending. A better choice from the existing weapons would have been the Remington 870, since that weapon had been in production since the early 50's. I don't mean to complain about what's basically a free game and I do appreciate the devs' efforts in bringing PR:V to completion, but I thought this issue should be addressed.
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I am sure that is just a placeholder since it is a minimod in beta.
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Post by Adriaan »

Yep, nicely spotted. ;)

It is indeed a placeholder. We'd love to have a more accurate shotgun for the US, like the 870 you suggested, the Ithaca 37 or something else more fitting. Problem is that those aren't available or not available in a proper version. The Mossberg, while not historically accurate, at least has similar looks and will have to do for now.
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Orca19904
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Re: Weapon anachronism in PR: Vietnam

Post by Orca19904 »

Would I be correct in assuming that the NVA factions' PKM machine gun is a placeholder for the RPD light machine gun as well?
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Re: Weapon anachronism in PR: Vietnam

Post by ExeTick »

why do NVA have the shitty DP-28?

when they probably used RPK or RPD.
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Post by Souls Of Mischief »

NVA definitely needs some RPK's.
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Post by Orca19904 »

ExeTick wrote:why do NVA have the shitty DP-28?

when they probably used RPK or RPD.
You have to keep in mind that initially a lot of the weapons used by the NVA and the Viet-Cong were hand-me-downs (like the DP-28 and Mosin-Nagant) or captured (like the MAT-49). It wasn't until the US started becoming actively involved that they started receiving newer weapon systems like the AK-47 from communist supporters such as China and Russia.
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Post by Smiddey723 »

ExeTick wrote:why do NVA have the shitty DP-28?

when they probably used RPK or RPD.
ComradeHX wrote:I am sure that is just a placeholder since it is a minimod in beta.
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ytman
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Post by ytman »

Orca19904 wrote:You have to keep in mind that initially a lot of the weapons used by the NVA and the Viet-Cong were hand-me-downs (like the DP-28 and Mosin-Nagant) or captured (like the MAT-49). It wasn't until the US started becoming actively involved that they started receiving newer weapon systems like the AK-47 from communist supporters such as China and Russia.
To further back this up... the Battle of La Drang is the first large scale conflict in the greater Vietnam War. This places the time frame of, afaik the only historical battle, PR:V in the beginnings of the war.
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Post by Murphy »

Was it not the first large scale conflict the US was involved in during the Vietnam war?
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Orca19904
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Post by Orca19904 »

Murphy wrote:Was it not the first large scale conflict the US was involved in?
What do you call both World Wars, the Korean War, the American Civil War, and the American Revolution?

It was the first asymmetrical conflict the US was involved in though.
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Post by NuclearBanane »

Murphy wrote:Was it not the first large scale conflict the US was involved in?
Not cool.

But the Shotgun in PR:V isn't as good as the ones the INS get.
I got a NVA soldier form 20 feet away he was standing prefectly still and I shot at him but it acted better as a noise maker. Lucky I had an M16 and I wasted him and his friend. Forever leaving my shotgun in my Kit un-used
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I meant in the Vietnam war......
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Murphy wrote:I meant in the Vietnam war......
battle not conflict. It was the first battle between US Regulars and NVA Regulars.
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Post by Acemantura »

ExeTick wrote:why do NVA have the shitty DP-28?

when they probably used RPK or RPD.
Right-Click at a crate and get a PKM
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Post by ComradeHX »

I want the Type-56 with proper bayonet.

Just because folding bayonet is cool.
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ComradeHX wrote:I want the Type-56 with proper bayonet.

Just because folding bayonet is cool.
If it's any consolation, most of the SKS rifles in the Vietnam conflict were actually the Norinco clone, which used the same Type 56 designation as their AK-47 copy. The only real difference between the Chinese and Russian SKS versions was the bayonet; the Russian one had the blade-type bayonet while the Chinese had the spike-type, commonly known as the 'pig-sticker' which was also used on early versions of the Type 56 AK clone.
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Post by ForceEcho »

Dp-28 is pretty good ... :|
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Post by LanceVanceDance »

Has there been any talk of implementing a Yugo SKS with the grenade launcher for NVA grenadier?
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Post by dtacs »

As of a couple of days ago, yes. Check the new SKS model thread in the dev blog section.
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