Civies

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heldro
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Civies

Post by heldro »

Hi,

I was wondering when exactly can a person shoot a civie without recieving a penalty for it?
WeeD-KilleR
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Re: Civies

Post by WeeD-KilleR »

You can arrest a civie with a shotgun or handcuffs at anytime. You are allowed to kill him when:

- he spawns and in the minute after he spawns
- 2 minutes after he got revived (could also be 1 not sure)
- 1 minute after he exit a vehicle
- in a vehicle (it's illegal to drive vehicles, that's why)
- he does have a epipen in his hand and 1 minute after it

You are NOT allowed to kill him when he has a patch/medic bag in his hand or use them! That's a common mistake.

Please correct my times if they are wrong.
Psyrus
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Re: Civies

Post by Psyrus »

It's all detailed on page 25 of the manual.
Pronck
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Re: Civies

Post by Pronck »

Civies, I don't like them when being BLUFOR, you throw a grenade, they run into it like it is a bar of gold. .......
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Re: Civies

Post by CopyCat »

B.Pronk(NL) wrote:Civies, I don't like them when being BLUFOR, you throw a grenade, they run into it like it is a bar of gold. .......
They are third world, fanatic, strong believing and stubborn people in the world - what did you expect... :P

throwing rocks will punish you if you kill them.

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KillJoy[Fr]
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Re: Civies

Post by KillJoy[Fr] »

Generally when i see a civie close to me i shot in the air to scare him,if is still harrasing i switch my weapon to semi and shoot him to his legs
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CopyCat
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Re: Civies

Post by CopyCat »

which results what ?... He heals up or just walk 'til he collapse and you get punished ? What's in it for you KJ ? :P
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Acemantura
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Re: Civies

Post by Acemantura »

If he is visually impaired he cant escape very well, making the civie easier to arrest.
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Re: Civies

Post by SGT.Ice »

WeeD-KilleR wrote:You can arrest a civie with a shotgun or handcuffs at anytime. You are allowed to kill him when:

- he spawns and in the minute after he spawns
- 2 minutes after he got revived (could also be 1 not sure)
- 1 minute after he exit a vehicle
- in a vehicle (it's illegal to drive vehicles, that's why)
- he does have a epipen in his hand and 1 minute after it

You are NOT allowed to kill him when he has a patch/medic bag in his hand or use them! That's a common mistake.

Please correct my times if they are wrong.
He's allowed to be shot by any weapon within a minute after exiting a vehicle

If he's had any medical equipment/rope out within 1.5 mins

within 1-2 mins of spawning

within ~2 mins of having used an armed kit
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Re: Civies

Post by Psyrus »

SGT.Ice wrote:While that's all great & everything I never read the manual. But I know more than most people that have it seems at times.
SGT.Ice wrote:He's allowed to be shot by any weapon within a minute after exiting a vehicle

If he's had any medical equipment/rope out within 1.5 mins

within 1-2 mins of spawning

within ~2 mins of having used an armed kit
Perhaps you should reconsider your position on the manual... Your answers are almost all wrong.
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Re: Civies

Post by Sabre-Oz »

Let's not turn this into a 'know it all' **** waving contest, was a simple question that has one set of correct answers.

heldro if you're ever unsure about things like this your best bet is to read the manual as has been said above.

https://www.realitymod.com/manual/pr_manual.pdf


On this specific question:
You can arrest civilians (and other insurgents) with
the restrainer which replaces the knife on insurgency
maps.

Shotguns with buckshot can also be used to
arrest the civilian.

Civilians that suicide are counted as
arrested and give bonus IP to the coalition team but
they take only 60-75 seconds to respawn.

Civilians and unarmed insurgents/Hamas fighters are covered by rules of
engagement (ROE). Any of them doing the following within the last minute
are considered combatants and may be shot without penalty:

-Spawn or pick up a kit

-Use a weapon or vehicle (stones are not counted as weapons)

-Use resuscitate or the epipen

If you shoot civilians outside of these rules, you will face several penalties:

After your next death you will respawn 120 seconds later per civilian shot
(stacks up to 5 minutes additional delay)

-You will not be able to request any kits for 10 minutes

-Your score is reduced to 0 and the kill will not be listed on the scoreboard

-Your team loses 10 intelligence points

As of Project Reality 0.9 running over civilians or killing them while they use
ladders or ropes will also result in a penalty if done outside of the ROE
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=HCM= Shwedor
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Re: Civies

Post by =HCM= Shwedor »

Also note that on Gaza, Hamas members who drop their kits and wait 60 seconds become civi. You are unable as the Israeli faction to use your melee capability (exception to engineers, crewmen, Negev, snipers, Specialist shotguns) to arrest them. So do not smack them with the rifles!
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Re: Civies

Post by SGT.Ice »

Psyrus wrote:Perhaps you should reconsider your position on the manual... Your answers are almost all wrong.
Nope. I'm going by what i've observed. If you do some testing, the manual isn't spot on with everything.

For clarification as from what I understand most of these thing's are taught in school or can be observed/understood pretty simply.

~ means approximately. [X] - [Y] is the equivalent of saying approximately as well, simply because - is substituted for about.

A synonym for about would be approximately. Thus my answers were pretty accurate, I don't always keep the numbers for civi penalties on hand.
=HCM= Shwedor wrote:Also note that on Gaza, Hamas members who drop their kits and wait 60 seconds become civi. You are unable as the Israeli faction to use your melee capability (exception to engineers, crewmen, Negev, snipers, Specialist shotguns) to arrest them. So do not smack them with the rifles!
What exactly is Negev?
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Re: Civies

Post by IINoddyII »

Hi heldro - welcome to the community.

Ima going to lock your thread now as I believe your question answered - if not to your satisfaction pls give me a hoy and I'll endevour to get the detail your after.
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