[Help!]UV maps and re-texturing existing PR models

[Mineral]

I created one thread for two problems, I hope that's ok

1. Attached poly Objects give split up UV map
I'll try to explain this the best I can, but I made a model, which is made of multiple objects attached to each other to 1 big object. When I make a standard UV map of this one object, and flatten it out, every face of every singular object is split up. I thought that if for example, a 6 sided box object was being UV mapped, all 6 faces would be linked to each other on the UV? Is there a way to do this with 3dsmax9 or a plugin? Cause for every object all faces are just randomly placed all over the UV map what makes it hard to texture.

2. retexturing existing PR models
First off all, am I allowed to do this? Secondly, Is there a way to open up a Mesh file in 3dsmax with all the LOD's and COL's in it, So I only have to retexture(with the UV maps being the same as the original) the LOD's, re-export them under a different name and attach the same tweak file as the original mesh too it?

[Adriaan]

1.
You should probably have a look at some basic UV mapping tutorials. Basically what you'd do is flatten map/planar map surfaces (consisting of one or multiple tris/polys) and then stitch pieces you want together (Tools, Stitch Selected).

2.
I'm not sure if it's allowed (always allowed for personal use I guess, and if its something going in PR then it should be ok too, no distribution other than that probably). As for the opening of bundledmeshes, use the PoE tools plugin for max (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19669966/3DS%2 ... _v0.30.zip) and import them using the object's con file.

[Mineral]

thanks adriaan!
1. Oh, so it can't do it automatically? that's a shame.
edit: this doesn't seem to fit them together.

2. It's for a PR map so I guess it's ok then? oh, it can be done with POE? thanks!

[Rhino]

1. As Adriaan said, you need to do UVs manually. Automatic UVs shouldn't be used, until you know what your doing with them and then they are only a time saver and not soultion.

2. Your generally allowed to retexture objects, the main thing is how you plan to use the re-textured object. It is best to ask for permission and for the orignal .psd files to work off (although generally we don't like handing out .psd files outside of the team, so you might have to settle for a flat .tga image etc) when retexturing so you don't get into the re-re-re-compression spiral that the .dds format brings which will screw up your texture.

I would also strongly advise you retexture using the BF2 editor, as you can set it up to instantly reload modified textures, and you can see the object with normal maps etc with the same engine/shaders the game uses, ie, it will look pretty much the same ingame as it dose in the editor, with the only real diffrence being the diffrent map's lighting maybe giving them a slightly diffrent colour per map. It isn't good to work off imported 3DsMax files as there smoothing groups and other things are all screwed up so your texturing something that dosen't look correct to start off with so that will make your texture look incorrect too. Only thing importing into max is good for is getting the UVs really.

Adriaan;1792291']use the PoE tools plugin for max (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19669966/3DS%2 ... _v0.30.zip) and import them using the object's con file.

Thous btw are the old POE2 tools, the latest version of the POE2 tools is v0.30a (not v0.30). Latest tools: http://realitymodfiles.com/rhino/editor ... _0.30a.zip

[Adriaan]

Rhino;1792518']Thous btw are the old POE2 tools, the latest version of the POE2 tools is v0.30a (not v0.30). Latest tools: http://realitymodfiles.com/rhino/editor ... _0.30a.zip

Ah, my bad! I was wondering if there wasn't a newer version I had missed, but couldn't find it quickly.

[Mineral]

1. ok, that's disappointing but I guess this is the only way then.

2. It's the house_dest models. I want them retextured to fit more in the falklands map I'm trying to make. Since the original house_dest don't really fit that well.

You mean I can open the original house_dest, pick new textures replacing the old ones , give it another name and I'm done? That would be even faster, is there a good tutorial on this?

[Doc.Pock]

Theres a tut on texture palletes which explains texturing statics quite well. Its in the modding section. Oh and statics dont have their own texture sheets. They share them so you basicaly make a uv map onto the texture. Take a look at the entire tut as it explains it well

[Mineral]

mmm,I'm looking into this again.

I'm still curious about this 'retexturing' threw the editor. The easy-st way would be a way to tell the editor to instead of using 'texture A' , use 'texture B' for that part of the mesh. So example for every part that uses
'houses_dest_01.dds' use 'houses_dest_01_goose.dds' for a copied version of that mesh? Is there a way to do this? This would keep all the UV settings and would be soo easy.

The only other way I see is to open the mesh in max and make a new UV and new textures. But this is a very slow progress.

[Rudd]

you can change texture paths using bf2meshviewer I think

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f189-m ... iewer.html

[Tim270]

also this nice program
[tool] Bf2 Material Tool - Official BF Editor Forums

But yeah, Rhino can most likely tell you more about this, but you should just be able to clone and rename it, then point it to the different textures, the uv shells will not move.

[Mineral]

Tim270;1799221']also this nice program
[tool] Bf2 Material Tool - Official BF Editor Forums

But yeah, Rhino can most likely tell you more about this, but you should just be able to clone and rename it, then point it to the different textures, the uv shells will not move.

how do I point it at the new textures? You mean with objecteditor? or with the bf2mechviewer?

[Tim270]

With the material tool, drag a bundlemesh or a staticmesh into it.



Just double click on the texture path and rename it, then hit save mesh and it will load of the texture you point it to

[Rhino]

The better alternative isn't to clone the model and redirect textures, but just to add a texture suffix, such as _woodland or w/e your map is using, then you don't end up with cloned models...

[AfterDune]

I was just going to say that. Why clone the stuff when you can use a texture suffig in your init.con .

If you use that, BF2 will automatically see if the texture defined in the mesh exists with said suffix.

Example:
somebuilding_c.dds
somebuilding_c_goose.dds <- BF2 will grab this one

Voila.

[Mineral]

Ok, that seems better indeed. I'll try that out Thanks for all the quick reply's!