Question about this COW tactic

badmojo420
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

Post by badmojo420 »

One thing that bugs me about this is that you're basically using an exploit in PR to fire on helpless Chinooks. In real life those things have a mk19 on the back ramp and an MG up front. I'd imagine that mk19 alone would make quick work of your huge flying target. But, for obvious reasons I doubt we'll ever see a flying mk19 in PR.

Another reason I wouldn't encourage this tactic is that it might cause the addition of anti-air vehicles. Or simply the removal of the door guns on the COW. Neither option would benefit the gameplay of Yamalia.

Ya know, if the damned manpad AA missiles could actually damage a COW, this type of thing would realistically sort itself out.
TheComedian
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

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Because in RL choppers attack each other with broadsides like 16th century naval warfare, duh...
PLODDITHANLEY
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

Post by PLODDITHANLEY »

I don't care, I appreciate the pilots get bored and if they have fun, don't lose choppers and can still do their job - great.

However most times pilots engage in CAS they get carried away and don't do taxi or supply runs.
illidur
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

Post by illidur »

this is a noob tactic. the pros use AA kits in the back of the cow and hunt down the chinooks ;) you almost had it right though.

its an unfair advantage that the chinook can't fire from its seats + no door gunner.
Rissien
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

Post by Rissien »

Used to go the other way around and chase Cows with my Chinook. We were circling around one once and we actually got him to crash as he was trying to keep us in veow for his gunner, another time I litterally stalked a Cow across the map and back. Even landed right behind him as he picked up a squad, for some reason they ddnt shoot me lol. Had video of it on my old computer, sadly dont have it anymore tho.
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Bellator
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

Post by Bellator »

I think PR should embrace this and place three 50 cals on both sides of the chopper. Then it would truly be 16th century naval warfare in air. ;)
Bob of Mage
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

Post by Bob of Mage »

The thing is that helicopters have only fought each other a handful of times. All of those were in the Iran-Iraq War as far as I know. Due to this it really hard to say what would or wouldn't be used in real life when two transport helicopters meet.

In all fairness the Chinook badly needs ethier guns to defend its self, or add the armed Griffons that are meant to escort them (to be honest the Griffons should be add in atleast some role regardless).
Phoenix4894
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

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....I can't believe you can fly the same speed as the Chinook....The MiL-17 is WAAAAAAAAY slower than the CH-47...
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Hunt3r
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Post by Hunt3r »

It works.

If you can maintain more enemy helos dead by your hands than those lost by your team, then you are doing it right.

Just actually transport and supply people.
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Bringerof_D
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

Post by Bringerof_D »

badmojo420 wrote:One thing that bugs me about this is that you're basically using an exploit in PR to fire on helpless Chinooks. In real life those things have a mk19 on the back ramp and an MG up front. I'd imagine that mk19 alone would make quick work of your huge flying target. But, for obvious reasons I doubt we'll ever see a flying mk19 in PR.

Another reason I wouldn't encourage this tactic is that it might cause the addition of anti-air vehicles. Or simply the removal of the door guns on the COW. Neither option would benefit the gameplay of Yamalia.

Ya know, if the damned manpad AA missiles could actually damage a COW, this type of thing would realistically sort itself out.
not all chinooks have said mk19 mounted on the back. and if so they'd only be able to hit the cow if they were flying behind the chinook. If the chinooks in game had them i'm sure pilots such as these would have figured out to avoid the tail end of the beast. So i really have my objections to you calling this an exploit. Not that i ever use the door guns myself or fly for that matter, you cant really consider the lack of a mk19 on them to be an exploit or even unrealistic.

being in the army all i can say is this, sometimes we don't have things that we should have.
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izoiva
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

Post by izoiva »

During war in Afganistan , soviet army mounted AGS17/30 grenade launcher(similar to mk19) to side door of mi8.
billysmall44
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

Post by billysmall44 »

izoiva wrote:During war in Afganistan , soviet army mounted AGS17/30 grenade launcher(similar to mk19) to side door of mi8.
Could you imagine playing Yamalia and flying the cow popping off grenade rounds?! That would be AWESOME.
Doc.Pock
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Thatd be just like cod4. Awesome.
mangeface
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Re: Question about this COW tactic

Post by mangeface »

Holy shit, the AGS-17 is a beast.
When it comes to ammunition AGS-17 is carnivorous in that it can fire both Russian 30mm as well as NATO 40mm rounds.
Any Russians know of any of these surplus weapons sitting around? I might need you to put it in a box and float it across the Bering Strait to me and I'll pick it up in Alaska.
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