JDAMs - Don't we have them already?

[MrTomRobs]

So after my team's drubbing against the Baggies today in the league, i decided to let loose on a little pr and decided i needed to practice dumb bombing from an A-10. Dunno why that would be useful online, but there you go, something new every day.

Anyway, it dawned on me that, by definition, a JDAM bomb (not a JDAM missile as Modern Warfare 3 likes to suggest) is a dumb bomb with a kit designed to allow it to track and destroy a laser target. In game, we commonly associate the JDAM with the commander's area attack for a number of bluefor maps, with a squad leader shining a laze and requesting the area attack. simple enough!

The thing is though, what is the difference between the commander's area attack JDAM, and the bombs which are attached to various ground strike aircraft in game? A-10s specifically, because i know the F-15s and i think Tornadoes are equipped with a different bomb to those, but really, what is the difference? except obviously the size of the blast and the massive smoke plume given off.

Don't interpret this as a suggestion, but would a Cruise missile (Tomahawk etc.) be more appropriate as an area attack if it is indeed the case that aircraft bombs and commander's JDAMs are one and the same?

[avskum]

The commanders JDAM is more powerfull?

[Doc.Pock]

Yea. Tyere are many versions of jdam. Its basically just a precision guided bomb. I think i can be laser or gps guided. I guess one can use it as dumb bomb too. So there is no diffrence except the size of it

[ComedyInK]

500lbs vs 2000lbs

It's the size that matters when it comes to the commanders bomb.

[Megagoth1702]

Sorry to nitpick here, but.

JDAM =/ laser guided. It's GPS guided. The things on the planes shouldbe GBU-12, laser guided pounders.

[Rhino]

The "Commander JDAMs" are being removed in v1 as they are pretty much pointless and 1/2 of the time, don't even work.

Instead we will be putting more focus onto player dropped bombs.

[Souls Of Mischief]

^Finally, no JDAM'ing caches on Kokan. If only C4 is fixed for v1.0.

[Navo]

Sorry to nitpick here, but.

JDAM =/ laser guided. It's GPS guided. The things on the planes shouldbe GBU-12, laser guided pounders.

Even when the bomb is GPS guided the bomb follows a laser coming from a targeting pod on the plane IIRC.
Any MA's for this?

[tankninja1]

The difference between player and area attack JDAMs are minimal mostly confined to size, player jets drop 500lbs bombs the Area Attack JDAM is 2000lbs. Although the Area Attack JDAM is more accurate, mostly because it cant be "counter lazed".

P.S. Please don't get rid of the BLUFOR Area Attack JDAM, without that bomb some cashes will be impossible to kill, plus it's unrealistic, since a lot of air power is on standby in the skies over Afghanistan. Don't turn all Taliban insurgency maps into Korengal.

[Rhino]

The difference between player and area attack JDAMs are minimal mostly confined to size, player jets drop 500lbs bombs the Area Attack JDAM is 2000lbs. Although the Area Attack JDAM is more accurate, mostly because it cant be "counter lazed".

The bombs on the jets right now are 1000lb btw, not 500lb. 500lb are coming in, in PR:F and v1, although technically on the A-1H in PR:V already, thous bombs are being replaced by better models/textures

[Stealthgato]

The "Commander JDAMs" are being removed in v1 as they are pretty much pointless and 1/2 of the time, don't even work.

Instead we will be putting more focus onto player dropped bombs.

Definitely not pointless, a well placed commander JDAM at the right time can and has many times changed the tide of a game. True that they don't have any effect sometimes - it looks like they have half a sphere of damage effect, so if they land on a roof they don't damage things below it. If this is true, wouldn't making it a full sphere fix the problem?

What happens on maps with no jet support?

[nAyo]

As someone already said, JDAM is GPS guided that's why you don't request it with your GTLD, and bombs dropped by the jets on PR are laser guided.

[Stemplus]

IMHO Jdams should only get removed from maps that have heavy CAS in them, but it should stay on other AAS/INS maps, or at least get exchanged by Artilery Strike.

[BloodyDeed]

You will have more often Artillery Support in exchange.
We're just not happy about the "JDAM" effect in general, its sometimes bugged and doesn't make the damage it should do. It's not reliable at all.

[Souls Of Mischief]

I have observed that myself. A JDAM was dropped on a bunker on Kashan while my squad was in the opposite bunker on the roof. For some reason I survived. DAT SCENE of me walking out of the dust cloud. I felt like a Phoenix emerging from the ashes. LOL

[[508th_PIR] Grey]

Even when the bomb is GPS guided the bomb follows a laser coming from a targeting pod on the plane IIRC.
Any MA's for this?

You recall incorrectly. GPS-guided means just that - inertially guided via GPS to a preset coordinate. The target coordinates may be acquired via JTAC with a SOFLAM or the aircraft's own targeting pod (or another aircraft's pod for that matter), but the actual guidance to target is by GPS only.

As someone already said, JDAM is GPS guided that's why you don't request it with your GTLD...

Again, incorrect insofar as the "reality" of the game is concerned, as lasing for laser-guided munition delivery is not the sole function of a SOFLAM.

[nAyo]

GPS coordinates can be acquired via a JTAC laser yes, and as you say the guidance is gps, but I think that on PR it's not only a laser location that you give but a real laser for a laser-guided bomb since it's gonna stuck on the target the whole time and not only a few second or whatever.


Anyway, we can't actually know the real purpose of the laser on PR, whether it's a location spot as you said or not, so.

[FLAP_BRBGOING2MOON]

You will have more often Artillery Support in exchange.
We're just not happy about the "JDAM" effect in general, its sometimes bugged and doesn't make the damage it should do. It's not reliable at all.

will artillery kill through buildings? or will a small mud hut stop the blast of a 155, as it does in .96.